Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-12 Thread RickSisler
Tom Brinkman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Saturday 11 December 2004 03:50 pm, RickSisler wrote: > > Also drawing from your experience, > > wouldn't *dmidecode* be of use in this case to see what a bios > > supports ? > About all you can do with Linux is to try trial'n error to see > if your

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 11 December 2004 03:50 pm, RickSisler wrote: > Also drawing from your experience, > wouldn't *dmidecode* be of use in this case to see what a bios > supports ? > > The reason I ask, IIRC ..was of a post about what the bios > reporting information, on this list or the expert list .. > ar

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem (update)

2004-12-11 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 12 December 2004 06:01, Keith Powell wrote: > Also, there are no Newbie archives for December. > So I can't check there. Keith, there are more than one archive. Try here : http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/maillist.html Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microso

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-11 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 11 December 2004 07:03, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Friday 10 December 2004 09:37 pm, care free wrote: > > I wonder if it is acpi=on or set you acpi on in your bios > > > > J.T. > >According to past and present kernel-parameters.txt, acpi=on > is _not_ a valid option. >

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem (update)

2004-12-11 Thread care free
ction automatically. I wonder if it has anything to do with the bios. J.T. From: Keith Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem (update) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:14:26 + Things have changed regarding my

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-11 Thread RickSisler
Tom Brinkman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I appreciate the addition Rick. Let me take this opportunity > to add a caution to your post, but more so to previous replies I > sent in this thread. > > ** Unless you know what you're doing, don't edit kernel config > files by hand and then

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem (solved)

2004-12-11 Thread Keith Powell
On Saturday 11 Dec 2004 16:14, Keith Powell wrote: > Things have changed regarding my shutdown problem, but have got even more > confusing. > > I have installed several distributions in turn, on my spare hard drive to > see what shutdown problems there are with other distros. There were none > with

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem (update)

2004-12-11 Thread Keith Powell
Things have changed regarding my shutdown problem, but have got even more confusing. But first, I have just connected for the first time today, to get my e-mails and postings. I have found that there is nothing from the list between about eight o'clock last night (GMT, or UTC) and mid-day today

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 10 December 2004 09:37 pm, care free wrote: > I wonder if it is acpi=on or set you acpi on in your bios > > J.T. According to past and present kernel-parameters.txt, acpi=on is _not_ a valid option. ... acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 10 December 2004 07:30 pm, RickSisler wrote: > Kaj Haulrich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Friday 10 December 2004 21:47, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > > On Friday 10 December 2004 08:53 am, Keith Powell wrote: > > > > > In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, > > > > > especially the

RE: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread care free
I wonder if it is acpi=on or set you acpi on in your bios J.T. From: Keith Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Shutdown problem Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:37:13 + I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find th

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread RickSisler
Kaj Haulrich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Friday 10 December 2004 21:47, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Friday 10 December 2004 08:53 am, Keith Powell wrote: > > > > In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the > > > > apic thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or > > > >

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 10 December 2004 21:47, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Friday 10 December 2004 08:53 am, Keith Powell wrote: > > > In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the > > > apic thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or > > > noapic. > > > > > > HTH > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > >

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Margot
Keith Powell wrote: Margot wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote: I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch the computer off. If I remember correctly, there is something to

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Alan Shoemaker
On Friday 10 December 2004 02:20 pm, Keith Powell wrote: > > Sometime, I must find out the difference between apic and apci - I > thought they were almost the same! APIC - Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller ACPI - Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- Alan __

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Keith Powell
Margot wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote: I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch the computer off. If I remember correctly, there is something to change in the lilo.

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Keith Powell
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 10 December 2004 08:53 am, Keith Powell wrote: apic=off has solved it. The append line was already apic=ht, so I first changed it to noapic and then apic=noapic. Neither had any effect. APIC, advance programable interrupt control. If your system works better wit

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 10 December 2004 08:53 am, Keith Powell wrote: > > In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the > > apic thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or > > noapic. > > > > HTH > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Thanks, Kaj. > > apic=off  has solved it. > > The append line was alr

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 10 December 2004 15:48, Margot wrote: > Kaj, I think you're mixing up apic and acpi! Yes. Sorry. Never came to grips with this alphabet-thingy. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Keith Powell
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote: I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find the answer in the archives or in twiki. Sorry for asking it again. I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything closes down correctly, but then Mandrake

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Margot
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote: I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find the answer in the archives or in twiki. Sorry for asking it again. I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything closes down correctly, but then Mandrake

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote: > I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find the > answer in the archives or in twiki. Sorry for asking it again. > > I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything > closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not

[newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Keith Powell
I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find the answer in the archives or in twiki. Sorry for asking it again. I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch the computer off. If I remember correctly, the

[newbie] Shutdown problem

2001-11-26 Thread Pascal Goguey
Hello! Not a big issue, but... I run two dual processor machines and both are unable to shutdown completely. It stops at the black screen saying "power down", but I have to press the power switch. There was a kernel setting on BeOS to allow complete shutdown. Is there a similar trick in Mandrake

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2000-09-02 Thread Jeff Malka
Thank you. Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: A V Flinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem > On Sat, 02 Sep 2000,

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2000-09-02 Thread Jeff Malka
> Run junkbuster & squid as procies What are these? Are they included in Mandrake 7.1? Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux user 183185

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2000-09-02 Thread A V Flinsch
On Fri, 01 Sep 2000, you wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a new user of Linux from India. I've with me LM 7.1 Complete. I've two > problems > > 1. When I issue the Shutdown command from the console of KDE desktop, it > will close X-Windows and restarts (without rebootng) Linux in character > based single

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2000-09-02 Thread Mark Weaver
> > 1. When I issue the Shutdown command from the console of KDE desktop, it > will close X-Windows and restarts (without rebootng) Linux in character > based single user mode. Here it automatically logins as root without asking > any password, even if I was logged as a normal user when issuin

[newbie] Shutdown problem

2000-09-02 Thread Vinu Mathew Ninan
Hi, I'm a new user of Linux from India. I've with me LM 7.1 Complete. I've two problems 1. When I issue the Shutdown command from the console of KDE desktop, it will close X-Windows and restarts (without rebootng) Linux in character based single user mode. Here it automatically logins as root

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-17 Thread Dennis Myers
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0... > > > flupke wrote: > > > > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't > say > > > anything

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-17 Thread Philip Hinds
56 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0... > flupke wrote: > > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say > > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > > If I understand, the problem here is all the dum

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Dennis Myers wrote: > Followup to this thread, I figured out how to edit (hooray!!!) and went > in to the above listed /etc/ files and deleted the -p and voila! the > error message is gone when I "halt" the sys. I think that I am > beginning to get the hang of some of this and am falling in l

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-13 Thread Dennis Myers
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > hmmm...both of the computers I've seen this problem on > had Via chipsets on their motherboards. > > Dacia > --- flupke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, > > so I hope I won't say > > anything stoopid or something that

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-12 Thread Fran Parker
Thanks Ronald...I will try this. Seems funny though that if it doesn't find it there (and it does look there) it also looks in my /home/fran directory and still doesn't find it. Not sure what the problem is there, but will put it in the share directory and see if it helps. Thanks, Bambi "Ronal

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-12 Thread flupke
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: > flupke wrote: > > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say > > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and > > registers caused by a

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Fran Parker wrote: > Now do you you know how to get lxdoom to work..it says it can't > find an IWAD...I have downloaded the shareware 1.8 wad file, > I have gone to get the iwad file they had and unzipped it...doom1.wad > Anyway it can't find it and I tried to run it in terminal window to see > i

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > > hmmm...both of the computers I've seen this problem on > had Via chipsets on their motherboards. > > Dacia Not sure if I have a Via chipset or not? I do have a socket 7 MB, (Gigabyte GA-5AX), and it uses the ALI Aladdin V AGPset... Oh well.

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Dennis Myers
Fran Parker wrote: > That could be true flupke, mine is a VIA chipset. > > It doesn't seem to hurt anything, if I accidentally choose > shutdown, I just choose alt-cntrl-del and it finishes it. > > But if it can be fixed...cool. I will look into it with my system. > > Thanks, > Bambi > > Now do

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Fran Parker
That could be true flupke, mine is a VIA chipset. It doesn't seem to hurt anything, if I accidentally choose shutdown, I just choose alt-cntrl-del and it finishes it. But if it can be fixed...cool. I will look into it with my system. Thanks, Bambi Now do you you know how to get lxdoom to work

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Dennis Myers
flupke wrote: > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and > registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a shutdown. >

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Dacia and AzureRose
hmmm...both of the computers I've seen this problem on had Via chipsets on their motherboards. Dacia --- flupke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, > so I hope I won't say > anything stoopid or something that has already been > said. > If I understan

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Dacia and AzureRose
That probably will not work. My brother disabled the apm daemon in linux not advanced power management in his BIOS. I had to do BOTH to make mine work. The easiest way I know to disable the apmd is to open DrakConf, click startup services and uncheck the box by apmd. It won't take affect until

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Dacia and AzureRose
That worked on my brother computer. He has a SOYO socket 7 motherboard. I forget the exact model. He disabled apmd and it got better. When I had that same motherboard in my old computer I had to disable Advanced power management in my bios and apmd to get it to stop. Dacia --- Paul <[EMAIL P

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread flupke
Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say anything stoopid or something that has already been said. If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a shutdown. I have the same problem

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...(solution)

2000-06-11 Thread Dennis Myers
"Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > Paul wrote: > > > APM is a service in Linux. You can disable it by running 'setup' as root, > > it is in 'system services'. > > > > Paul > > Ah, got it. I just printed out your reply, will > try that next. Ignore my earlier question! ;-) Dennis M. here, It also can be

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Paul
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: >> Oops, it was not APM in the BIOS, but the APMD daemon that Dacia >> said that was disabled!! >> Sorry! > >Argh, I missed that too...anyways, I turned off >power management in Bios and of course, it made >nary a difference. > >So...how do I disable the

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Paul wrote: > APM is a service in Linux. You can disable it by running 'setup' as root, > it is in 'system services'. > > Paul Ah, got it. I just printed out your reply, will try that next. Ignore my earlier question! ;-)

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Fran Parker
Thanks Paul will look into that end of things. I didn't think I had that enabled in the bios. Bambi Paul wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > >Hi Dacia. Hmm. I'll go into my Bios and try that > >then. Power management -is- working here though. > >My system goes through the s

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Paul wrote: > Oops, it was not APM in the BIOS, but the APMD daemon that Dacia > said that was disabled!! > Sorry! > > Paul Argh, I missed that too...anyways, I turned off power management in Bios and of course, it made nary a difference. So...how do I disable the APMD daemon? ;-) Thanks!

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Fran Parker
Hi Ronald, I have a dual boot system with Win98 and Linux Mandrake 7.0 (Air). Actually I have a Celeron 366mhz ...I do not use power-management. I have one hard drive that doesn't recover from power-management on the hard drives (old 540 meg - my 3rd drive - is actually mainly a place holder mo

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Paul
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: >Hi Dacia. Hmm. I'll go into my Bios and try that >then. Power management -is- working here though. >My system goes through the stages, the screen- >saver kicks in (love that Matrix one!), then a >few minutes later, the monitor goes black, etc, >etc,...

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Paul
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: >Same hereI don't shutdown the computer...I only reboot and shut >off the computer from there, I hate getting error messages! :) > >> BTW, I can shutdown and restart, and I do NOT >> get this problem. Odd, eh? Did you all get the message Dacia sent in?

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-11 Thread Paul
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: >Same hereI don't shutdown the computer...I only reboot and shut >off the computer from there, I hate getting error messages! :) > >Bambi Oops, it was not APM in the BIOS, but the APMD daemon that Dacia said that was disabled!! Sorry! Paul -- Read t

Re: [Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...]

2000-06-10 Thread Jaguar
I don't have your original message here...but I think you said you were using an AMD CPU...I think there was a shutdown problem and a subsequent patch for itmaybe that is the problem. (if I am remembering your hardware correctly) HTH Jaguar "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-10 Thread Fran Parker
Same hereI don't shutdown the computer...I only reboot and shut off the computer from there, I hate getting error messages! :) Bambi "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > Paul wrote: > > > You listed your hardware well, but could you also be more specific about > > the error message? > > It is difficu

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-10 Thread Dacia and AzureRose
My brother had this same problem and we found that in his case it was because of a conflict between his motherboard advanced power management features and the way linux was trying to access those functions. He disabled apmd and it stopped happening. Dacia --- "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Paul wrote: > You listed your hardware well, but could you also be more specific about > the error message? > It is difficult to understand what happens when "something to do with > rec.d" is all the info we have. > > Thanks for segmenting again, > Paul > > -- > I'm not a complete idiot. > Some

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-10 Thread Paul
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: >Until shutdown. No matter how I shutdown, from >the graphical logon screen, to "shutdown now" >from a shell, I always get a final B&W text >screen that displays a segmentation error, with >an error in line x, something to do with rec.d. You listed your

[newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

2000-06-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Here is my setup: AMD K6-3 @475mhz 128 megs of Ram Voodoo 3000 SB Xgamer Gigabyte MB Award BIOS Western Digital Caviar series HD Diamond Supra internal (ISA) v.90 modem Mandrake v7.0 PowerPack I built this system, and installed everything by myself, (and I'm a newbie) so beware... Anyways, eve

RE: [newbie] shutdown problem

2000-04-14 Thread Alvarez, Angel
halt Angel Claudio Alvarez -Mensaje original- De: evan light [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Jueves 13 de Abril de 2000 17:41 Para: newbie Asunto: [newbie] shutdown problem Hi there...having a bit of a problem with shutting down 7.0. When I issue the "shutdow

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem

2000-04-13 Thread Mike Corbeil
For problems of this sort, try reading the man page for the program or utility you're trying to use and don't seem to be able to get to work as you want. E.g., % man shutdown -h now is correct, but it's also important for newbies to be aware of the man pages and knowing this ca

Re: [[newbie] shutdown problem]

2000-04-13 Thread Michael Scottaline
evan light <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there...having a bit of a problem with shutting down 7.0. When I > issue the "shutdown now" command, everything seems fine and dandy until > it switches into "single-user" mode. If I try ctl-ald-del at the > single-user prompt, I get the message "no aut

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem

2000-04-13 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
evan light wrote: > > Hi there...having a bit of a problem with shutting down 7.0. When I > issue the "shutdown now" command, everything seems fine and dandy until > it switches into "single-user" mode. That doesn't at all fine and dandy to me. It shouldn't be going into single user mode, it sh

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem

2000-04-13 Thread mark willenbring
shutdown -h now --- evan light <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there...having a bit of a problem with shutting > down 7.0. When I > issue the "shutdown now" command, everything seems > fine and dandy until > it switches into "single-user" mode. If I try > ctl-ald-del at the > single-user prompt

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem

2000-04-13 Thread mark willenbring
shutdown -h now --- evan light <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there...having a bit of a problem with shutting > down 7.0. When I > issue the "shutdown now" command, everything seems > fine and dandy until > it switches into "single-user" mode. If I try > ctl-ald-del at the > single-user prompt

[newbie] shutdown problem

2000-04-13 Thread evan light
Hi there...having a bit of a problem with shutting down 7.0. When I issue the "shutdown now" command, everything seems fine and dandy until it switches into "single-user" mode. If I try ctl-ald-del at the single-user prompt, I get the message "no authorized users logged in." If I try shutdown ag

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-13 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, you wrote: > > You did just "su", not "su -". The difference is that "su -" reruns the > login scripts, etc., so you get the right PATH for root. > Ah. I just learned something new. :-) I didn't know about "su -" Thanks. :-) -- John Aldrich COL Tech Support

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-13 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, you wrote: > > When you do "su" you don't always get the PATH environment of root > (depending on the system) > The above error was because "timed" is not in your path - not > because you cannot run it. Try "/usr/sbin/timed" instead. > Ahh...Ok. That makes a bit of sense the

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Bernhard Rosenkränzer
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, John Aldrich wrote: > Okone I can give you right off the top is "timed" It > will NOT run as SuperUser, but it WILL run as "root." It > comes back with "timed command not found." This is from a > text-mode prompt, not a window prompt, just a standard > shell prompt. Howev

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Dan Brown
John Aldrich wrote: > Okone I can give you right off the top is "timed" It > will NOT run as SuperUser, but it WILL run as "root." It > comes back with "timed command not found." This is from a It will still run just fine as su, but you need to specify the path to it. When you su, i

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Nick Kay
At 12:20 13/07/99 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, you wrote: > >> For a program to run as root and not when su - root, it would have to >> step thru parent pid's looking specificly for su (it could test the parent >> pids uid, they all eventualy lead to root), which is posible but ugly. >>

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-13 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, you wrote: > For a program to run as root and not when su - root, it would have to > step thru parent pid's looking specificly for su (it could test the parent > pids uid, they all eventualy lead to root), which is posible but ugly. > As for editing system files, I am quite c

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Axalon
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, John Aldrich wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, you wrote: > > > > > there isn't a single difference between su - and loging in as root (ok one > > the utmp entry, but that has nothing todo with anything major) > > > Well, MY experience has been that there are some > applica

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-13 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, you wrote: > > there isn't a single difference between su - and loging in as root (ok one > the utmp entry, but that has nothing todo with anything major) > Well, MY experience has been that there are some applications that can ONLY be run as "root." Editing system files a

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-12 Thread Axalon
a single difference between su - and loging in as root (ok one the utmp entry, but that has nothing todo with anything major) > - Original Message - > From: Rhichard Barth & Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 5:22 PM &g

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-12 Thread John Aldrich
IL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed > > > John Aldrich wrote: > > > Log in as "root" instead of a normal user. Try that instead of SU. > > John > > I did log on as "root"

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-11 Thread Rhichard Barth & Family
got to be one of the greatest sites there is. I owe you guys. I'll be back! Rhich "The Phoneless Guy" Icq 8150164 > > - Original Message - > From: Rhichard Barth & Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-11 Thread John Aldrich
Log in as "root" instead of a normal user. Try that instead of SU. John - Original Message - From: Rhichard Barth & Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-11 Thread Rhichard Barth & Family
  John Aldrich wrote: Are you editing the file as "root"? If not, that's a "system file" and only "root" can edit it. - Original Message - From: Rhichard Barth & Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, J

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-11 Thread John Aldrich
Are you editing the file as "root"? If not, that's a "system file" and only "root" can edit it. - Original Message - From: Rhichard Barth & Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 1999 6:48 PM Subject:

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-10 Thread Axalon
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth & Family wrote: > > > Axalon wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Flight16 wrote: > > > > > For anybody else having the problem I was of a huge error crashing their system > > > whenever the shutdown script tried to halt, it is because of the power off >comm

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-10 Thread Rhichard Barth & Family
  Axalon wrote: On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Flight16 wrote: > For anybody else having the problem I was of a huge error crashing their system > whenever the shutdown script tried to halt, it is because of the power off command, > like Axalon said, but the specific problem comes from the -p parameter tha

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-10 Thread Rhichard Barth & Family
Axalon wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Flight16 wrote: > > > For anybody else having the problem I was of a huge error crashing their system > > whenever the shutdown script tried to halt, it is because of the power off command, > > like Axalon said, but the specific problem comes from the -p par

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-07-10 Thread Rhichard Barth & Family
  Flight16 wrote: For anybody else having the problem I was of a huge error crashing their system whenever the shutdown script tried to halt, it is because of the power off command, like Axalon said, but the specific problem comes from the -p parameter that tries to power down your pc.  This comm

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-06-30 Thread John Aldrich
Hmm...really? I didn't know you could edit a symlinkOTOH, I suppose you can, now that I think about it... :-) - Original Message - From: Axalon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown problem

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-06-30 Thread Axalon
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, John Aldrich wrote: > BTW, on my machine (RedHat 6.0) it was not called SShalt, I believe it was > calles S0halt. :-) I took a guess that it was the right script and opened it > with joe. It was. :-) those are all symlinks anyway the true filename is /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-06-30 Thread John Aldrich
2000 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed > > > On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Flight16 wrote: > > > For anybody else having the problem I was of a huge error crashing their system > > whenever the shutdown script tried to halt, it is because of the power off co

Re: [newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-06-30 Thread Axalon
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Flight16 wrote: > For anybody else having the problem I was of a huge error crashing their system > whenever the shutdown script tried to halt, it is because of the power off command, > like Axalon said, but the specific problem comes from the -p parameter that tries to > p

[newbie] shutdown problem fixed

1999-06-30 Thread Flight16
For anybody else having the problem I was of a huge error crashing their system whenever the shutdown script tried to halt, it is because of the power off command, like Axalon said, but the specific problem comes from the -p parameter that tries to power down your pc. This command is near the end