YOU are still missing the point...here...just look at what you said below... I did all the reading...and still need a walkthru...you are contradicting yourself... all over the place...yes God helps those who help themselves...well, I did try to help myself...been doing so over a week now..but do you realise...that God USES people to help those, who did try to help themselves...don't you realise this...fact? God sends people to help OTHERS in need...thats how He helps you... " But, the point is, newbie or not, we don't like to help people whom we regard as lazy bums who rather bug us with their questions, than to do a little effort in finding it out themselves. There's a saying that goes: "God helps those who help themselves", and although we're not God, we feel the same. " -- <========KompuKit=========> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 HomePage: http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.myip.org (does not run 24/7) <========KompuKit=========>