Paul wrote:
> Yup, no problem. I am of course NOT going to twiddle the running drives
> around, but they function wonderfully either on the side or straight up.
changing hd position was meant to be after power off and spin down. i have seen
drives develop problems and only run at new angle. i k
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 3:31 pm, et wrote:
> On Monday 27 January 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 11:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > > On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > > > Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
> >
On Monday 27 January 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 11:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > > Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
> > > mention a thermal diode that can regulate the c
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
> > mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if the
> > fan happens to fail, or if t
On Sunday January 26 2003 05:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > prevents the core temp. from reaching critical levels.. (Not to
> > mention the 400-533mhz cache speeds, compared to athlon's measly
> > 200mhz.. :p)
>
> Thats interesting. I alwa
On Sun, January 26 2003 1:03 pm, Paul wrote:
*snip*
> I guess these do not suffer from 'overweight problems' of fans. ;)
> Paul
No, it's because P4's don't overheat.. period. They throttle their clock
speed, to reduce heat. if they detect overheating, so where thermal
management on an Athlon mea
On Sun, January 26 2003 5:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
*snip*
> Thats interesting. I always thought that AMDs' chips were better performers
> at the same speed rangefrom what I've read. (but I'm no expert).
Really dependant upon what your doing, AMD's ARE better performance/mhz
usually.. but..
In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:49:45 +:
>> And see.. this is why I spent the extra 20 bucks and bought a Pentium IV
>> 1.6, instead of the Athlon 1800 (which runs at 1400mhz I think)
>
>No, I don't see. Why?
I guess these do not suffer from 'overweight problems' of fans. ;
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
> mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if the
> fan happens to fail, or if the heatsink happens to fall off.. Many 3rd
> party tests have sho
On Sun, January 26 2003 11:49 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
*snip*
> > > Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7.
> > > I do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say
> > > nothing of the fact that I have a heart attack every time I have to try
> > > to d
1/26/03 10:24:16 AM, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:05:48 +:
>
>>from your replies, it is now to decide if problems is with
mainboard
>>or if you have a harddrive problem.
>>
>>with box in normal upright position, put harddrive on it's side.
>>
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 5:47 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> On Sun, January 26 2003 11:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> *snip*
>
> > Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7. I
> > do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say nothing
> > of the fact that I have
On Sun, January 26 2003 11:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
*snip*
> Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7. I
> do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say nothing of
> the fact that I have a heart attack every time I have to try to deal with
> those c
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 5:04 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Sunday January 26 2003 09:11 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Tom - I'm not doubting you, and I'll certainly keep this post for
> > reference, but how is that affected by orientation? Why would it
> > run longer if on its side?
> >
> > Anne
>
>
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 2:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Sunday January 26 2003 01:43 am, Paul wrote:
> > Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm).
> > The CPU (Athlon 1200) shows 78C (149F) and something else shows
> > 29.2C (75.5F). I am not sure if I set the multiplier readings in
> >
Paul wrote:
> No, it keeps going.
> No. There is still power on the mainboard led and the leds of the network
> cards.
> Both. Same result.
> Yes and yes.
> No, it is not. I cannot imagine that it does. I can leave the PC off for 2
> hours, which should be enough to cool off most parts. Wh
On Sunday January 26 2003 01:43 am, Paul wrote:
> Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm).
> The CPU (Athlon 1200) shows 78C (149F) and something else shows
> 29.2C (75.5F). I am not sure if I set the multiplier readings in
> Gkrellm correctly, but this is what I also could see (plus o
On Sunday 26 January 2003 02:43 am, Paul wrote:
> In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:56:31 +:
> >knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
> >
> >if it is still running, i would suggest 3 possible problems to go after
> >first.
> >
> >#1 = power supply:
>
1/26/03 1:46:32 AM, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In reply to Stephen's mail, d.d. 26 Jan 2003 12:21:17 +1100:
>
>>
>>What if there is a mercury switch in either the PSU or somewhere
within
>>the casing itself that would cause this?
>
>I have been thinking about this also, but I have not been
In reply to Stephen's mail, d.d. 26 Jan 2003 12:21:17 +1100:
>
>What if there is a mercury switch in either the PSU or somewhere within
>the casing itself that would cause this?
I have been thinking about this also, but I have not been able to find a
switch like that. More and more I feel that th
In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:56:31 +:
>knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
>
>if it is still running, i would suggest 3 possible problems to go after
>first.
>
>#1 = power supply:
> does fan stop?
No, it keeps going.
> do you lose all volta
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 11:56, g wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > moment the PC is on its side again and it runs. Since 5 minutes now, but
> > I am confident that it will stay up.
>
> knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
>
> if it is still running, i woul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> moment the PC is on its side again and it runs. Since 5 minutes now, but
> I am confident that it will stay up.
knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
if it is still running, i would suggest 3 possible problems to go after first.
#1 =
In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:10:26 +:
>There's only one solution, then. Pretend your tower was a desktop all
>along :)
Woohahahahaa!!! It is a tower with a bad back! ;)
Thanks for the grin.
Paul
--
The more we live by our intellect,
the less we understand the meaning o
On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 8:00 pm, wrote:
> Okay... I tried every trick in the book (and outside of it). And it is
> still a riddle.
> I just about took the entire machine apart again, put it back together
> with basically just the video card and the mainboard. No CDRom, no
> soundcard, no nothing.
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 02:29, Paul wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Forgive this OT post, but can someone point me into the right direction?
> My PC is going nuts. When it is upright, it won't boot properly (powers off
> immediately after switching it on). When it lies on the side, the system
> keeps runnin
In reply to et's mail, d.d. Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:41:39 -0500:
>describe further... the pci cards sit horzontal and mother board vertical,
>when you say "When it lies on the side". and when you say "it won't boot
>properly (powers off immediately after switching it on)" does power off
>mean no ac
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From: "Anne Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: hardware weirdness
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 4:32 pm, David Robertson wrote:
> On Friday 24 Jan 2003 4:25 pm, Ann
In reply to David's mail, d.d. Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:05:24 +:
>Um, can't even begin to think of a reason, other than a loose connection
>somewhere. If you've looked at all the internals, maybe there's a probelm
>with the power cable?
I suspect some loose connection 'somewhere'. The stranger i
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 4:25 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Don't you do that when you're checking on hardware jobs you've just done?
> I always do before righting it and closing the case.
>
> Anne
Well, no. but maybe that's because I'm not a computer professional!
I'm a gynaecologist, actually
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 4:05 pm, David Robertson wrote:
> On Friday 24 Jan 2003 3:29 pm, Paul wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Forgive this OT post, but can someone point me into the right direction?
> > My PC is going nuts. When it is upright, it won't boot properly (powers
> > off immediately after sw
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 3:29 pm, Paul wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Forgive this OT post, but can someone point me into the right direction?
> My PC is going nuts. When it is upright, it won't boot properly (powers off
> immediately after switching it on). When it lies on the side, the system
> keeps runni
Paul,
Is your graphics card seated correctly, no access weight on it, monitor
cord not pulling on it while upright? Same with cpu not got a large fan
on it which the clips are not in correctly?
Tony.
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From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003
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