Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume

2001-09-16 Thread Mohammed Arafa
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume > > Out of curiosity, I would be interested in having some ideas about: > > > >* how many people (what regions

RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-14 Thread Mark Stewart
Gary, > This list is for the people by the people and if we as a > whole want to allow > off topic conversations, then we should allow it. If not, we shouldn't. Actually this is a list that is hosted, operated and paid for by Mandrake. They set it up and contribute to it for the purpose o

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-14 Thread Gary Traffanstedt
I think the argument of whether or not various topics should be allowed in this list or not has gotten a bit out of hand. Lets quickly look at both sides and see if we can come to a conclusion. First we have those that want to post about seemingly unrelated topics. Should thi

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-14 Thread Rog
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:52:30 -0500, you wrote: >MR HAVLIK. > >How many of your Mandrake customers are dead or maimed? How many potential >Mandrake business customers responsible for the re-building of IT >infrastructure have you just alienated? Does the death of more than five >thousand souls

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume

2001-09-14 Thread Tim Holmes
Really, just to respond to the here, this is a problem that a lot of ISPs run into. Here's a basic run down of why. Some ISPs don't use very advanced equipment. And even those that do, there are always issues of software and of telecommunications isssues. Some small town ISPs are, for lack of

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume

2001-09-14 Thread Charles A. Punch
Randy Kramer wrote: (Except that my ISP has changed his rules since I signed up, and now considers that if I remain connected for more than 4 to 12 hours (I forget the exact rules), I am "hanging", and he takes it upon himself to disconnect me. I can reconnect, but he seems to have his watchful

RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-14 Thread James S Bear
I think this is because most people know more about Windows than LInux. I know I do. If somebody has a question to ask and I know the answer(and I had the time to read e-mail that day), I answer it. jim Quoting John W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes this is a Linux mailing list. I am often amaze

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-14 Thread Don Wilson
MR HAVLIK. How many of your Mandrake customers are dead or maimed? How many potential Mandrake business customers responsible for the re-building of IT infrastructure have you just alienated? Does the death of more than five thousand souls not transend the fact that this is a Linux mailing lis

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay foremail access by volume

2001-09-14 Thread Matt Greer
on 9/14/01 9:58 AM, Randy Kramer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Matt Greer wrote: >> Actually that's not true. Here in Chicago local calls cost by the minute, as >> much as 9 cents per minute. This is probably true of New York and LA as >> well, but I don't know for sure. > > Matt, > > Thanks fo

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume

2001-09-14 Thread Randy Kramer
Matt Greer wrote: > Actually that's not true. Here in Chicago local calls cost by the minute, as > much as 9 cents per minute. This is probably true of New York and LA as > well, but I don't know for sure. Matt, Thanks for the reply! So in Chicago, you can't pay a (slighly (or significantly?))

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay foremail access by volume

2001-09-14 Thread Matt Greer
on 9/14/01 8:55 AM, Paul at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Most people in Europe that do not have access to ADSL or Cable internet (like > me). Using a phone line already costs money, local phone calls are charged > between $0.60 and $1.00 per hour (as far as I know) > >> What I mean is that the US

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume

2001-09-14 Thread Paul
> Out of curiosity, I would be interested in having some ideas about: > >* how many people (what regions of the world) have to pay a "metered" > rate for their Internet access Most people in Europe that do not have access to ADSL or Cable internet (like me). Using a phone line already costs

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume

2001-09-14 Thread Randy Kramer
Tim Holmes wrote: > But why are people a) complaining about it, b) messages like this > suddenly being posted? It takes less time to delete an email then it > does to compose a message in complaint saying that you want something > done on the list about a certain topic. This message is intended

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-14 Thread Rog
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:49:17 -0400, you wrote: >Rog and everone else that cannot find the "delete" key. >Please do not abandon this list, and do not ask to be killefiled or otherwise >put your heads in the sand. world wide co-operation and "humanization" is >almost the only way we have to preve

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-14 Thread etharp
Rog and everone else that cannot find the "delete" key. Please do not abandon this list, and do not ask to be killefiled or otherwise put your heads in the sand. world wide co-operation and "humanization" is almost the only way we have to prevent the types of tragedies we are living thru. I KNO

RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-13 Thread Franki
t for the people wanting to talk about it.. No need to be offended by it. just my thoughts.. rgds Frankn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rog Sent: Friday, 14 September 2001 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] This is a

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-13 Thread Rog
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:15:03 +0200 (CEST), you wrote: > >FYI, I'll take a look at the list tomorrow, and blacklist everyone who is >still talking about politics there. You are still welcome to discuss what >happened in one of these threads: Just curious - do you run this list? You've said twice

RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-13 Thread John W
Yes this is a Linux mailing list. I am often amazed at how many Linux questions go unanswered and how much time is spemt helping people with general windows questions. I have voiced my opinions about this and the answer I was given, "Do you have a delete key"? So if you are not happy with th

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-13 Thread Bill R
On Thursday 13 September 2001 08:53 am, you wrote: > on 9/13/01 8:15 AM, Charles A Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >> Denis HAVLIK > >> > >> > >> Hi, folks > >> > >> While I do agree that rece

RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-13 Thread Charles A Edwards
> -Original Message- > From: Denis HAVLIK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:15 AM > To: Charles A Edwards > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list > > > > Charles, > > Your

RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-13 Thread Denis HAVLIK
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote: + I was not discussing the Events on this list. + I was addressing the comment that YOU, a Mandrakesoft + employee, made regrading said events. + + True, I knew nothing of your history so of that then + yes I, by definition am ignorant. + + But being

RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-13 Thread Denis HAVLIK
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote: + Denis + + I agree that this is a linux list and that there are better + forums for the discussion of the events of 9/11/2001 and as + such I have reframed from making any comments, till now. + + But I find your above comment trivializing the terrori

Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list

2001-09-13 Thread Matt Greer
on 9/13/01 8:15 AM, Charles A Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >> Denis HAVLIK >> >> Hi, folks >> >> While I do agree that recent airplane flights which missed >> their intended >> destinations a