Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2001-01-01 Thread Mark Hillary
Why are you using windows 98 on a file server, come on this is a job for linux. Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: "James Mellema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2001-01-01 Thread Mark Hillary
: "Goldenpi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > I installed 98 after melting my P200MMX in the laptop. I just wanted to get > it up to 166. It should have worked but I didn't know t

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2001-01-01 Thread Mark Hillary
Well it errored when I tried to install it an just rebooted the machine. Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: "Eugene C. Zesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2001-01-01 Thread Daniel Anderson
ldenpi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > Look at this number sequence: > > > > 512k > > 1m > > 4m > > 8m > > 32m > > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread James Mellema
Mark Hillary wrote: > > Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the > install. > > Mark Hillary It runs just fine on the P 133 file server on my home network. Well, not fine its slow and if I run programs on it it crashes, but as a network backup/file server and stor

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread Herman Christiani
ginal Message - > From: Mark Hillary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux - DIE THREAD DIE!

2000-12-31 Thread Mark Weaver
and tell them they need > > to write linux drivers for their mice > > > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Anthony Daniell wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > > From: David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > &g

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread Eugene C. Zesch
Mark Hillary wrote: > > Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the > install. > Simply not true. It ran on mine till I erased it in favor of Mandrake 6.0. Gene

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread Goldenpi
ginal Message - From: Mark Hillary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the > install. > > Mark Hillar

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread Mark Hillary
Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the install. Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: "goldenpi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates ge

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread Romanator
Dec 2000, you wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread goldenpi
Look at this number sequence: 512k 1m 4m 8m 32m see how quickly it goes up? They are the memory requirements for windows. dos would word with 512k. windows 3.11 needed 4 meg. windows 95 needed 8 meg. Windows 98 needed 32Meg. Whistler will need so much people will have to buy more. And look at p

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread goldenpi
; be different between the consumer and workstation/server versions no doubt, > but the core OS will be NT based. > > Cheers and Happy New Year to all, > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: Romanator > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 7:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PR

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread goldenpi
Winme is unfixable. If you accidently lose the drivers for the video card you cant fix it from dos. Dos does nothing. You cant reboot in dos, you cant even get to a dos prompt. I wonder how you pass command line stuff? On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, you wrote: > On Thursday 28 December 2000 03:06, you wrot

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-31 Thread goldenpi
TED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > > > > > > I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-30 Thread Revenant
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:47 PM > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Revenant wrote: > >> Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are > >> pushing our resources to their limits. > >Our resource limit

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-30 Thread root
Original Message - > > From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 2:19 AM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > > Does HP make their own printer drivers as well? > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-29 Thread Romanator
I agree. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Revenant wrote: > > Romanator wrote: > > Revenant wrote: > > > Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the > > > dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the > > > fusion of the NT line with the

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-29 Thread Romanator
t; Anthony Daniell. > > - Original Message - > From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 2:19 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > Does HP make their own printer drivers as well? > &

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-29 Thread Dale Kosan
SNIPPED. Whistler is not an update to ME, but an upgraded version of Win2k.As far a stability goes,I have a NT server at work wich has been up for almost 6 months,and a Win2k that was up for 7 until I rebooted for the hell of it,not to shabby.This is the norm for these two server

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-29 Thread Paul
> But Excel2000 has a LOT more functionality than Lotus 123 version 1 had! > Plus Lotus 123 ver 1 cost (not counting inflation) MORE then than the > professional version of Office 2000 (including Word, PowerPoint and Access) > cost now!! PLUS the 8086 PC cost 3 times (not counting inflation) MORE

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-29 Thread civileme
; > > > > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message - > > > > From: David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-29 Thread Al Collier
er 28, 2000 11:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Revenant wrote: >> Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are >> pushing our resources to their limits. > >Our resource limits are increasing. Most

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Paul
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Revenant wrote: >> Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are >> pushing our resources to their limits. > >Our resource limits are increasing. Most software aims to >take maximum advantage of the hardware available. Now that the industry >standa

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Romanator
Anthony Daniell wrote: > > > > > > Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are > > pushing our resources to their limits. > > > > -- > > Roman > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > Yes the os is getting bigger. But not getting better, the subject > of this should be cha

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Anthony Daniell
> > Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are > pushing our resources to their limits. > > -- > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > Yes the os is getting bigger. But not getting better, the subject of this should be changed. or killed off Anthony Daniell

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Vic
BOOM it died. On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: WinME is a joke! What were they thinking? > > Sorry to the list cause this ain't a windows forum. > > Nowdie...thread DIE! :) > -- > Mark > > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," > "Sha

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread abe
ay. I haven't seen it running but I have heard > > of it. > > > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > > From: David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Anthony Daniell
ember 29, 2000 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > Does HP make their own printer drivers as well? > > If I had the e mail address I would > e mail them and tell them they need > to write linux drivers for their mice > > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Anthony Daniell wr

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Paul
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Revenant wrote: >> There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's >> name is Whistler. > >Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the >dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the >fusion of the NT

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant
Romanator wrote: > Revenant wrote: > > Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the > > dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the > > fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line. It is supposed to be a very > > different beast to the Win9x line,

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Romanator
Some of your favorite's from the past will not run correctly. It's best to create another partition and install an older OS. Or, move to Linux. Jim Dawson wrote: > > Actually, 'Whistler' is based on Windows 2000 and (according > to Microsoft) will contain no legacy 16-bit code. (I'll > believe i

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Rick Commo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's name is Whistler. goldenpi wrote: > > Give it time. I have just seen windows millenium and I can assure you it will . . .

Re: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Jim Dawson
Actually, 'Whistler' is based on Windows 2000 and (according to Microsoft) will contain no legacy 16-bit code. (I'll believe it when I see it.) On the plus side, it will probabally be the most stable desktop version of Windows ever. On the other hand a lot of older programs will break under W

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver
ROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > Could be. Could be... > > > > Mark Weaver wrote: > > > Good ole tony sounds like a good candidate for the twit list, huh? >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant
Romanator wrote: > There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's > name is Whistler. Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line.

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Anthony Daniell
nope lol - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > On Tuesday 26 December 2000 22:53, you wrote: > > Says who > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver
On Thursday 28 December 2000 03:06, you wrote: > There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's > name is Whistler. > Yeah...that short for "Whistle friggin dixie while you wait for ever for your computer to stinkin work correctly cause this OS sucks!" I'm sorry. Win 95

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Anthony Daniell
so you don't like it when some one says something you don't like to hear LOL hahahahahahahaha - Original Message - From: "Romanator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates g

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Romanator
TECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > > > I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-27 Thread goldenpi
eard of it. On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux &g

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Anthony Daniell
Hi thanks for that, am checking it out now. Regards Anthony Daniell - Original Message - From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Anthon

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Anthony Daniell
Hi thanks for that, am checking it out now. Regards Anthony Daniell - Original Message - From: "abe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > http://mandrakeuser.org/hardw

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread abe
Message - > From: "abe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > my ide burner works just fine in linux. Better then it does in windows > > infact. >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Paul
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Anthony Daniell wrote: >Hi, can you please tell me how you got your ide burner to >work under linux??? >Thanks Anthony Daniell Mine did it after I checked out the info at http://mandrakeuser.org Paul -- Satellite Safety Tip #14: If you see a bright streak in the sky comin

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Anthony Daniell
Hi, can you please tell me how you got your ide burner to work under linux??? Thanks Anthony Daniell - Original Message - From: "abe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread abe
linux. No go. So much for "anything I want it too" ;-) Abe Anthony Daniell wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 20

Re: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Mark Weaver
How about this guy Roman? Shall we all bow now and pay homage or wait a little and see if he can walk on the water? Mark > >From: Romanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:29:38 -0500 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Romanator
Careful, we use trained man-eating penguins. Argghh... Roman Mark Weaver wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 December 2000 22:53, you wrote: > > Says who > > don't you have a few installs to take care of or something? >:\ > -- > Mark > > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up bei

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Romanator
Arghh... Anthony Daniell wrote: > > Says who > > - Original Message - > From: Mark Hillary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 4:36 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > But i

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Mark Weaver
On Tuesday 26 December 2000 22:53, you wrote: > Says who don't you have a few installs to take care of or something? >:\ -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torval

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Anthony Daniell
ver of mandrake and I like ver 7.1 best. Thanks Anthony Daniell - Original Message - From: Mark Hillary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > I wasn't making a comment about the threa

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Anthony Daniell
Says who - Original Message - From: Mark Hillary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > But its such a good list. :-) > > Mark Hillary > > - Original Mes

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2000-12-26 Thread Michael R. Batchelor
beginner get up and running. >> > >> > Happy Holidays and Season's Best to all >> > Rick >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Mark Hillary >> > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 10:51 AM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] &

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-26 Thread Jeffrey Norris
t; > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark Hillary > > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 10:51 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > > > I wasn't making a comment about the thr

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-25 Thread Romanator
Mark Hillary wrote: > > I wasn't making a comment about the thread. I just don't like it when people > join, get the help that they are looking for the leave not helping anyone > else. > > Mark Hillary. > > Ps Anyway I like getting lots of email. Makes every say "Wow why do you get > so much em

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-25 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
==Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > While you have made some good points, I guess I'm a little more optimistic -yhs The problem is that crippling linux with bad mouse support is seen as a strategy to win over windows users. I think that strategy sucks. :-) =

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-25 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
While you have made some good points, I guess I'm a little more optimistic about what the future holds for Linux GUIs than you are, David. Things will get better as Windos declines and becomes less of a threat (and we won't have to try as hard to win over computer-illiterate Windoze users). We

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-25 Thread Revenant
Mark Hillary wrote: > I wasn't making a comment about the thread. I just don't like it when > people join, get the help that they are looking for the leave not > helping anyone else. Yes, I agree. The Debian mailing list made the interesting choice of having just one list rather than dividi

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread Romanator
Mark Weaver wrote: > > > Hey Mark, > > > > I started this as a one of comentary on Bill Gates gets Linux. I didn't > > think it would get this big. > > Don't take it so hard Roman. It's one of those issues in life that is very > explosive and prone to a lot of hot debate and commentary. The best

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread Rick Commo
's Best to all Rick -Original Message- From: Mark Hillary Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux I wasn't making a comment about the thread. I just don't like it when people join, get the help that they are

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread Mark Hillary
augh. - Original Message - From: "Romanator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > Mark Hillary wrote: > > > > But its such a good list. :-) > > > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread Romanator
Mark Hillary wrote: > > But its such a good list. :-) > > Mark Hillary > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 5:44 PM > Subject: Re: [newbi

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread Mark Hillary
But its such a good list. :-) Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > how do I get off this mailing list >

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread Rick Commo
The same way you joined it only backwards! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux how do I get off this

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread CannedCorn
how do I get off this mailing list

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread Mark Hillary
ECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > =Sridhar: > I never said that Windos users didn't have bad habits. The issue here is > that > my idea of "bad habits" differs slightly fr

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-24 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
=Sridhar: I never said that Windos users didn't have bad habits. The issue here is that my idea of "bad habits" differs slightly from yours. In my opinion, a "bad habit" is something that locks you into something, whether you like it or not. -yhs I am locked into bad mouse support

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-23 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > Not a bad idea, but most mice out there still have only one or two buttons. That was the doing of Bill Gates. > While three-button mice are cheap nowadays, many people will not switch to > Linux if they have to buy a new piece of hardware, no matter how cheap it is.

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-21 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
I never said that Windos users didn't have bad habits. The issue here is that my idea of "bad habits" differs slightly from yours. In my opinion, a "bad habit" is something that locks you into something, whether you like it or not. I like the configurabliity of Linux, and it is getting better a

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-21 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Not a bad idea, but most mice out there still have only one or two buttons. While three-button mice are cheap nowadays, many people will not switch to Linux if they have to buy a new piece of hardware, no matter how cheap it is (it's psychological). Also, new users of Linux can become easily co

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-20 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Perhaps X should not hard code seven buttons, but rather have a section in the config file specifying the number of buttons that you have (i.e. you can change it to what you like). In a following section, the functions of the buttons may be specified, or the user may choose to leave that to the

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-19 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
I like your idea, but this appears to be more of a job for the window manager than for X itself, since different window managers have different feature sets and different ways of doing things. As I mentioned before, I quite like the Sawfish configuration options. These allow a multitude of comb

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-19 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
I think a new user should be faced with something like this: Xwindows Mouse Installation Wiz Button 1[add] list of functions Button 2[remove]list of functions Button 3 or 1+2 list of functions Button 4 1+2 or a

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-18 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
I agree with you - at least in part. I believe that Linux should have legacy hardware support, but only if those like us are not disadvantaged. As I've said before, Linux is all about choice. If someone wants to plug in a one-button i-mac USB mouse and use that, then they should be able to, no

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-18 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
Bad habits because of how destructive they are. I think I explained why the mouse support is horrible in linux. The reason it is horrible in windows was that BG wanted to keep the 3-button mouse off the market so he could be the one to profit from an additional feature rather than Logitech, etc..

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-17 Thread Romanator
ely, the ball is in the customer's court. Mark Johnson wrote: > > >-Original Message- > >From: Benjamin Sher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 6:01 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux &

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-17 Thread Tim Holmes
nd Bob Dylan said that... > - Original Message - > From: "paddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:02 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > "You can please some of the people so

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-17 Thread Ed Tharp
DUDE!!! I did not think anyone else would remember that song - Original Message - From: "-michael-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > On Friday 15 December

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-17 Thread Ed Tharp
Abe Lincoln said that I will let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours,,, and Bob Dylan said that... - Original Message - From: "paddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates g

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-16 Thread Romanator
Great! Now let's move on to another one... Roman Vic wrote: > > BANG! > > it died. > > On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Romanator wrote: > > What have I started? This is one of the longest threads. > > Let's kill this and send it to /dev/null/ > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-16 Thread Vic
BANG! it died. On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Romanator wrote: > What have I started? This is one of the longest threads. > Let's kill this and send it to /dev/null/ >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-16 Thread Romanator
This is one of the reasons for open source? Romanator wrote: > > I wouldn't worry about it. Most of us prefer to be in control of our os. > > Roman > > Vic wrote: > > > > I hope that he does not think its "the os for everyone" > > some will like it, some will hate it, and if he > > does maek

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-16 Thread Romanator
I wouldn't worry about it. Most of prefer to be in control of our os. Roman Vic wrote: > > I hope that he does not think its "the os for everyone" > some will like it, some will hate it, and if he > does maek it, I hope hje will consider making > hsi version of the os still configurable and > d

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-16 Thread Romanator
is a bad thing... > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > &

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread Vic
I hope that he does not think its "the os for everyone" some will like it, some will hate it, and if he does maek it, I hope hje will consider making hsi version of the os still configurable and do what *the user/operator* tells it to do instead of doing what *it* wants to do. I choose to use Lin

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Have you even *looked* at alternatives that *can* do these things? Before you start bitching, I can say that I'm sure that Sawfish can do at least half of these things, and its configurability is getting better all the time. Try looking at the settings instead of just complaining when all of wh

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread Mark Weaver
#x27;ve ever > > heard that having more than one button on a mouse is a bad thing... > > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newb

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread -michael-
On Friday 15 December 2000 15:51, regarding Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux, you said: > Uhh, some dude/dudette said it. > (Sorry just messin!) :) > > I think I am way off, I was going to say > W.C. Fields but that is not right, > he is the one who said > 'Anyo

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread Mark Johnson
nne L. Lee. -Original Message- From: Mark Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:48 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux This is really nutty. I don't get it that a system must have some sort of arbitrary difficulty to be considered legitament

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
ver > heard that having more than one button on a mouse is a bad thing... > > -Original Message- > From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread Vic
Uhh, some dude/dudette said it. (Sorry just messin!) :) I think I am way off, I was going to say W.C. Fields but that is not right, he is the one who said 'Anyone who hates kids and dogs can't be all bad.' On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: > "You can please some of the people some of

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
One more time: I want to be able to select a rectangle full of files and drag the lot to another directory using only the mouse. I want to be able to copy with the right mb, place with the left mb, and paste with the middle. I want to be able to call up a menu for gnome and Enlightenment complete

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas! > > (ps: is unix/linux the home of the three button mouse?) > > -Original Message- > From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] ga

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-15 Thread abramo
PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > Mark Johnson wrote: > > > > FYI, I asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas! > yhs: > 1 > 2 > 3 > 1+2 > 1+3 > 2+3 &

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-14 Thread Eric Hall
> > windoze sucks and makes people lazy. Hehe...a lot like cars and electricity. Both break down and can cause serious injury, but they still make our lives easier ;-) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) http://www.firekite.com

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-14 Thread Roger Sherman
ent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > Mark Johnson wrote: > > > > FYI, I asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas! > yhs: > 1 > 2 > 3 > 1+2 > 1+3 > 2+3 > 1+2+3 > count '

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-14 Thread Al Baker
Here's a quick rule of thumb, don't install every package, especially ones that you don't know or specifically need, you could be creating security holes. Go look around for security documents, it'll show you things that you need and don't need. Also, mandrake7.1 (and 7.2) has a security level f

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-14 Thread Mark Johnson
guard against human failure. hmm... -Original Message- From: Anthony Daniell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Thats true, I believe that linux should not become like windoze windoze sucks a

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-14 Thread Anthony Daniell
Thats true, I believe that linux should not become like windoze windoze sucks and makes people lazy. Been their done that and now am learning linux. I installed suse linux 7 pro and with 3417 apps it took about 6.5 gb of my hard disk. There is so much in linux. I looked through the minues in kde

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