Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-18 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wednesday 18 September 2002 02:14 pm, robin wrote: > At some point, somebody wrote: > >>I *will* claim that (too) many Americans are hyper-sensitive to *any* > >>criticism of their country. > > Actually, just about all the Americans I know personally take criticism > of their country surprising

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-18 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday September 17 2002 04:54 pm, et wrote: > > > > I think all this pro-/anti-American stuff is a smokescreen to > > prevent people noticing that we are using a French distribution. > > M. Robin > by jove. Bonapartists...damn I wish I had percieved such Actually, recently on

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-18 Thread John Richard Smith
robin wrote: > At some point, somebody wrote: > >>> I *will* claim that (too) many Americans are hyper-sensitive to *any* >>> criticism of their country. >> > > Actually, just about all the Americans I know personally take > criticism of their country surprisingly mildly. As one commented > wr

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-18 Thread robin
At some point, somebody wrote: >>I *will* claim that (too) many Americans are hyper-sensitive to *any* >>criticism of their country. Actually, just about all the Americans I know personally take criticism of their country surprisingly mildly. As one commented wryly (on anti-American demonstra

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 03:56 am, Barran, Richard wrote: > > Wrong, we have a bill of rights. It isn't a Bill Gates of > > rights but it works > > none the less. People disagree with W all the time and live > > to tell about > > it, and in this day and age most Americans know their rights >

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 17 September 2002 11:47 am, robin did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > I think all this pro-/anti-American stuff is a smokescreen to prevent > people noticing that we are using a French distribution. Hasn't anyone > noticed the c

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 17 September 2002 12:26 am, Miark did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > You, on the other hand, just criticized the US. Worse, you are wrong, > and clueless as to what goes on here. (And watching Aussie news > doesn't count.) Do yo

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 16 September 2002 9:42 pm, Dennis Myers did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > > Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with what George W. Bush says > > or does, is automatically considered a terrorist or terrorist > > sympathiser, and can b

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Patrik Marxer
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 09:26, Miark wrote: > Marco, > > > Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with what George W. Bush says > > or does, is automatically considered a terrorist or terrorist > > sympathiser, and can be detained indefinitely without a shred > > of evidence, legal representation or e

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Patrik Marxer
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 15:05, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Tuesday 17 September 2002 03:13 am, you wrote: > > To be honest, we don't like bush much over here. I guess not many in > > europe do. In the rest of the world it may be similar. In fact he is the > > most unpopular leader in the world

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 09:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > (Certainly, in the United Kingdom, nobody would consider even the less > > successful Prime Ministers of recent times, such as Jim Callaghan and > > John Major, to be stupid; > > Couldn't resist jumping in here - John Major made a great

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 04:56 am, you wrote: > And Americans wonder why much of the rest of the planet hates them :-( I do... > Yes, you have a Bill of Rights. And it applies to (white) Americans. It > just looks like it doesn't need apply to anyone who isn't an American. Thats just plain

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 16 September 2002 11:27 pm, you wrote: > Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with what George W. Bush says > or does, is automatically considered a terrorist or terrorist > sympathiser, and can be detained indefinitely without a shred > of evidence, legal representation or even visitation rig

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread et
the part I really enjoy tho.. is who gets to decide, and by what criteria, what make a person a terrorist? that to me is (at the least) one of the biggest "malfunctions" of this whole pile. Am I a terrorist? what if I speak openly against the Bush Family? what if I call for the USA to join the

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread John Richard Smith
I'm not going to add much to this thread, except to say, I do not feel proud of my Country today , I feel that a much loved friend, with whom in the past we have shared many experiences, has just insisted that I help him murder his motherinlaw because he and his wife want to live off the income h

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread et
call me a > consiprisy theroy nut, but in my lifetime you will _never_ convince me that > of Geo. the elder had not survived WW2, we would have never been in 'Nam. let me (at least) correct the double negitive; that if Geo. the elder had not survived WW2, we would have been in 'Nam. Want to bu

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas
Em Ter 17 Set 2002 06:52, Alastair Scott escreveu: > > As his motto: Or we agree with him or we are against him! You are absolutely right! Although, I've listenned him saing that! Great emphasis on TV! I agree that the "idea" was what you mentioned, but ... The problem I see is the "over-reactio

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread et
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 04:56 am, you wrote: > > Wrong, we have a bill of rights. It isn't a Bill Gates of > > rights but it works > > none the less. People disagree with W all the time and live > > to tell about > > it, and in this day and age most Americans know their rights > > very well,

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread et
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 03:26 am, you wrote: > Marco, > > > Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with what George W. Bush says > > or does, is automatically considered a terrorist or terrorist > > sympathiser, and can be detained indefinitely without a shred > > of evidence, legal representation or

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Patrik Marxer
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 11:47, Alastair Scott wrote: > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 08:13, Patrik Marxer wrote: > > To be honest, we don't like bush much over here. I guess not many in > > europe do. In the rest of the world it may be similar. In fact he is the > > most unpopular leader in the world

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread et
On Monday 16 September 2002 11:27 pm, you wrote: > >Shane! you've just decribed better then half the people > > reading this > > >list, myself included! ;) > > > >Mark > > Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with what George W. Bush says > or does, is automatically considered a terrorist or terrorist >

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Alastair Scott
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 06:16, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: > Em Ter 17 Set 2002 01:42, Dennis Myers escreveu: > That was before G.W.Bush! > > I'm Brazilian and I've lived during our so called "military period" (they were > rulling the country for over 30 years!) > > None of those

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Alastair Scott
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 08:13, Patrik Marxer wrote: > To be honest, we don't like bush much over here. I guess not many in europe > do. In the rest of the world it may be similar. In fact he is the most > unpopular leader in the world, as I have heard - even more unpopular than > Saddam Hussein.

RE: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Barran, Richard
> Wrong, we have a bill of rights. It isn't a Bill Gates of > rights but it works > none the less. People disagree with W all the time and live > to tell about > it, and in this day and age most Americans know their rights > very well, we > have tv programs with new episodes every week that

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Patrik Marxer
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 06:42, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Monday 16 September 2002 10:27 pm, Marco Nadal wrote: > > >Shane! you've just decribed better then half the people > > > > reading this > > > > >list, myself included! ;) > > > > > >Mark > > > > Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with what Ge

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-17 Thread Miark
Marco, > Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with what George W. Bush says > or does, is automatically considered a terrorist or terrorist > sympathiser, and can be detained indefinitely without a shred > of evidence, legal representation or even visitation rights > for his next of kin. Have Newbi

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-16 Thread Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas
Em Ter 17 Set 2002 01:42, Dennis Myers escreveu: That was before G.W.Bush! I'm Brazilian and I've lived during our so called "military period" (they were rulling the country for over 30 years!) None of those "military dictators" scares me more than G.W.Bush! As his motto: Or we agree with him

Re: OT: privacy [was: Re: [newbie] Question]

2002-09-16 Thread Dennis Myers
On Monday 16 September 2002 10:27 pm, Marco Nadal wrote: > >Shane! you've just decribed better then half the people > > reading this > > >list, myself included! ;) > > > >Mark > > Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with what George W. Bush says > or does, is automatically considered a terrorist or terr