On Wednesday 13 July 2005 09:47 pm, Richard Elling wrote:
> Some Turion laptops are starting to appear, which, IMHO, are more
> interesting than Semprons ;-)
Yes, I have a Turion laptop myself. I have a Ferrari 4000 which has a Turion
in it. In fact, I just restored the Windows partition a few mi
Beautiful! Thanks for adding me.
Jim
Glynn Foster wrote:
Heya,
So I'll be the first to admit that I'm having a bunch of fun getting to
know a new community of people - both on the mailing lists, blogs and
IRC channels. Believe it or not, as a desktop engineer working on GNOME
for 5 years, I'v
Hey Gman,
Way to go.
We should also get a site like the linux-counter [0] started to keep track of
the process of OpenSolaris taking over the world ;->
patrickb
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On 7/13/05, TJ Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please publish the detail procedures in text file. when I got sometime
> later I will create a kde-3.4.1.sb file that can be replay by anyone install
> TWW's sb tool.
>
> This will shift the our attention to improve the kde instead of wasting
> ene
Some Turion laptops are starting to appear, which, IMHO, are more
interesting than Semprons ;-)
-- richard
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fyi ... thanks for all your feedback on Glynn's proposal. I'll get with
Glynn and Derek and we'll get this community opened up as soon as we
can. I hope to have it for next week, but I'll check with Derek tomorrow
on his schedule.
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Rich Teer wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Virginia Wray wrote:
I think it is worth considering consolidating the documentation onto the
community documentation site and providing pointers to them from the
places where they are now located. Additionally, move the articles on
+1, although I would
Virginia Wray wrote:
Hi -
I would like to throw out a suggestion. I think that the documentation
on the site is already becoming scattered in a way that is going to make
it less user friendly for people to find what they are looking for. I
did a page-by-page look for all documentation on the
Nick Winlund wrote:
Hi Jim,
I'm definitely interested in writing reviews and opinion pieces about
opensolaris. I've been tinkering with the compiler and source but once I
ramp up my efforts I'll be sure to dictate and turn some of that output
into content. I forwarded your message to Kelly Mc
Max Bruning wrote:
Hi,
I'm glad to hear there are plans to have an article link on
the front page. (And even more happy to hear when
someone has read what I've written and liked it. Thanks, Ben!).
I would like to know more about the review process.
Cool. Thanks.
I am planning
on more art
Tao Chen wrote:
On 7/12/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In terms of style, I'm thinking
that the more magazine-like the better to distinguish this editorial
from documentation.
Jim
This reminds me of the PBASE (Photographer) magazine:
http://www.pbase.com/magazine
It's a comm
I updated the links page:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/links/
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Exactly. I think we see the value of having documentation exist throughout the
OpenSolaris site. We want to try to provide a more user-friendly experience by
pulling it all together in someone so that it is more navigatable. We may want
to present guidelines for what types of docs should be w
Hey,
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 18:02 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> On 7/13/05, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > However, I'd quite like to see a common repository created under the
> > opensolaris.org website though if that was possible.
>
> I agree. It would be great if it could be birthed
On 7/13/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, this is a little long. My audio stops, konqueror freezes, mouse jumps
> when I do untar of mozilla source. In the following statistics, whenever wait
> is high, my audio stops and I see all the above symptoms.
If it's any consolation, I see the
On 7/13/05, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:28, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> > What if it were possible to take some grand unified approach and take
> > genunix as a host site and then take everything from Blastwave and
> > then everything from SunFreeware and work
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 15:56, Glynn Foster wrote:
> > I think that's a decent suggestion, and I might add a generous compromise
> > on your part to consider that. It would make things better for the
> > community at large if there was one common repository.
> >
> > The question is if parties oth
Ok, this is a little long. My audio stops, konqueror freezes, mouse jumps when
I do untar of mozilla source. In the following statistics, whenever wait is
high, my audio stops and I see all the above symptoms.
$ iostat -xnzc 5
cpu
us sy wt id
5 5 0 90
extended device
On 7/13/05, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heya,
>
> > > What if it were possible to take some grand unified approach and take
> > > genunix as a host site and then take everything from Blastwave and
> > > then everything from SunFreeware and work together with compromises
> > > being m
On 7/13/05, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, I'd quite like to see a common repository created under the
> opensolaris.org website though if that was possible.
I agree. It would be great if it could be birthed and delivered from
opensolaris.org, genunix and others could provide m
Heya,
> > What if it were possible to take some grand unified approach and take
> > genunix as a host site and then take everything from Blastwave and
> > then everything from SunFreeware and work together with compromises
> > being made and perhaps with a pile of work we can have a single source
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Shawn Walker wrote:
> My personal opinion is that it would be best if the docs continued to
> be accessible from where they are now (i.e. in their own communities),
> but also automatically available in an aggregated and categorized form
> at the top level. That way when one i
On 7/13/05, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +1, although I would suggest putting docs outside of any community.
> Your average user, looking for documentation, won't think "oh, I wonder
> if docs are a community?", so I think a Documentation link on the LHS
> of the screen would be ideal.
>
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:37, ken mays wrote:
> Yet, the reality is that it is hard to lock down ONE
> directory for all development libraries and headers.
> ...
> I bring this up because it is not so simple to just
> toss everything into one development directory and
> call it a day (although w
On 7/13/05, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there not a clear need or a desire to have a community based non-OS
> software base that will complement the OpenSolaris initiative?
I think that this has real merit. When the Linux community was first
being birthed, most of the distributio
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:28, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> On 7/13/05, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 July 2005 07:57, Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:49:59AM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > > > The problem with that is since the Companion CD i
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Virginia Wray wrote:
> I think it is worth considering consolidating the documentation onto the
> community documentation site and providing pointers to them from the
> places where they are now located. Additionally, move the articles on
+1, although I would suggest putting
Hey,
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 08:09 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Glynn Foster wrote:
> > So the discussion mostly goes 'Oh, you're from X - I thought you were
> > from Y', and I thought that having a world wide map of where we all are
> > would be a nice addition to the project -
>
> Sounds cool
> What hardware do you have?
santa cruz turtle beach pci.
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>all oss commands give me a kernel panic. I think this driver is pretty screwed
>up on OS (or sanity
checks in debug mode are too restrictive). I have reported all such
occurences, lets see what happ
ens.
>
Report the error to them; they're usually very responsive.
What hardware do you have
Hi -
I would like to throw out a suggestion. I think that the documentation
on the site is already becoming scattered in a way that is going to make
it less user friendly for people to find what they are looking for. I
did a page-by-page look for all documentation on the OpenSolaris site,
and
Its work now when change to Xsun.
Many thanks to all your support.
Regards
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On 7/13/05, ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I bring this up because it is not so simple to just
> toss everything into one development directory and
> call it a day (although we could if everyone wanted
> it!).
What if we were to stop and look two years and five years down the road?
Is ther
all oss commands give me a kernel panic. I think this driver is pretty screwed
up on OS (or sanity checks in debug mode are too restrictive). I have reported
all such occurences, lets see what happens.
what other audio drivers can I use? quick google points to jkeil's drivers but
nothing for my
--- Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 July 2005 07:57, Keith M Wesolowski
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:49:59AM -0700, Alan
> Coopersmith wrote:
> > > The problem with that is since the Companion CD
> is only updated with new
> > > Solaris releases, you'ld be stu
On 7/13/05, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 July 2005 07:57, Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:49:59AM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > > The problem with that is since the Companion CD is only updated with new
> > > Solaris releases, you'ld be stuc
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 07:57, Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:49:59AM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > The problem with that is since the Companion CD is only updated with new
> > Solaris releases, you'ld be stuck with whatever the latest version on a
>
> That can be cha
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 07:49, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Alan DuBoff wrote:
> > Originally, before Solaris turned into OpenSolaris, and when Sun was
> > adding to the Companion CD, the idea some in the community had was to
> > build upon it so we didn't duplicate and add what was not there in hop
Hello,
As you asked me, I post some suggestions I've sent you in my last mail. I know
it'll take
some time to complete, but keep in mind it would make community life easier.
--
Articles
OpenSolaris could have one consistent format, with previously described style,
which would
bring high quality
hey nice article, and it's not just about AMD or Sparc laptops either :-)
- I'm running Solaris Express on a little Toshiba M100, and it's really pretty
fantastic :
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/timf/20050109#solaris_on_the_desktop
- that was written back in January, and laptop support has
On 7/13/05, C Meeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am slightly confused. The source at opensolaris.org seems not to
> have changed since 6/14... almost a month.
> How did you get snv_17?It seems that even the SXCommunity edition is
> stuck at snv_16. Enlighten me.
er .. I built it and the
Ok. I'm a dork. Here's the link:
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/webmink?entry=cddl_reflections
Jim Grisanzio wrote:
fyi ... I see Simon Phipps put up a "CDDL Reflections" post to summarize
his thoughts on the license issue. It may be of value to this
conversation on CDDL and GPL.
Jim
_
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Sunil wrote:
> ...
> what if I want all this AND solaris kernel AND solaris libc AND zones
> AND wonderful tcp/ip stack AND Dtrace and tonnes of other
> goodiesits not over there. its here...
+1.
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Hi Jim,
I'm definitely interested in writing reviews and opinion pieces about
opensolaris. I've been tinkering with the compiler and source but once I
ramp up my efforts I'll be sure to dictate and turn some of that output
into content. I forwarded your message to Kelly McNeill over at
OSView
Hello Daniel,
Thank you very much for spending some time with Yate.
I know about most of the issues you told me about since we had a try 1 year ago
to port Yate on SunOS 5.7. However the testing problem is still there.
I can't make any kind of tests if i don't have access to a Solaris box. Even i
>One of Sun's engineers is playing with a Sempron based laptop:
>
>http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/phantom?entry=laptop_cpu_frequency_scaling
You can download the Solaris PowerNOW! driver from my weblog.
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/casper?entry=first_installment
Casper
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On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 11:09, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> somehow I think the spot around the south end of
> San Francisco Bay will soon be overwritten with too many names to
> read for the OpenSolaris version. (Kind of like Europe is in your
> GNOME map right now.)
other projects have solved this "
One of Sun's engineers is playing with a Sempron based laptop:
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/phantom?entry=laptop_cpu_frequency_scaling
StarOffice/OpenOffice.org are moments from getting out of the beta state. SO
works much better in Solaris than in Linux (I think Sun made a great decision
fyi ... I see Simon Phipps put up a "CDDL Reflections" post to summarize
his thoughts on the license issue. It may be of value to this
conversation on CDDL and GPL.
Jim
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> oss driver? So a third party audio driver could also
> be part
> of the problem?
what other choices do I have for my santa cruz card?
> Which xmms (ogg123) audio output driver are you
oss. I couldn't get 'sun' plugin to compile.
> I'm just using S10-GA-x86, ogg123 (and the "sun"
> audio out
On 07/12/05 22:44, roland wrote:
I check the Logs and found that the error should be the configuration of
X-server. But during the installation process, there is no way to config it.
Does anyone knows how to config it, and how to start the configuration program
for X-server?
The display
> Although I must say, when it comes to the development
> of _Sun_ Solaris,
> characterizing the process that way ("NO, NOT
> THERE!!") actually isn't
> all that far from reality.
and somehow that holds true for any OSS project with >3 developers: linus'
linux (just look how many patches redhat a
Hi TJ -
What type of documentation are you interested in contributing? If you
want to contribute to the System Administration documentation at
docs.sun.com, currently you would work with a sponsor to add your
contribution.
For other documentation, as far as I know there has not been a single
do
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Eric Boutilier wrote:
> ...
> Although I must say, when it comes to the development of _Sun_ Solaris,
> characterizing the process that way ("NO, NOT THERE!!") actually isn't
> all that far from reality...
I guess I should also add (in case it's not obvious)...
I of course th
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, George Jereza wrote:
> How to measure openness? What about like "look, but
> no touch! Or if you must touch, go ahead ... NO, NOT
> THERE!! :-)
:-)
Although I must say, when it comes to the development of _Sun_ Solaris,
characterizing the process that way ("NO, NOT THERE!!"
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, George Jereza wrote:
> ..
> ..
> A better solution is to perhaps tweak OpenSolaris so
> that it'll simply and clearly ask a user very early on
> during install time something like...
Goerge,
Please be more specific about what distro you're referring to. I think
that by saying
> > What kind of media are you using in xmms?
>
> playing ogg files.
OK.
> > Or are you playing compressed audio clips (Ogg/Vorbis, MP3, ???)
> > stored on a local filesystem? (Maybe some other process is using all
> > spare cpu cycles so that xmms cannot decompress the audio in real
> > time
Keith M Wesolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> offering is better than the closed. Consistency with the DVDCCA's
> misguided and authoritarian philosophy is not some important
> additional feature but rather a serious design flaw.
In Germany it is not a problem to write code that make it useabl
>I doubt that. Its a 2.4 Ghz machine and with ample amount of RAM. Same
>software and same songs pla
y without skips on my lesser solaris 9 unltrasparc and I have saturated that
machine much more than
I do with this machine. oss driver is running ipl 9 as well.
Try to find out where the CPU i
Ghee Teo - Desktop System wrote:
Stephen Lau wrote:
Hi Diana,
Our plan is to have build/test farms at some point in the future.
Our roadmap is online: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/
Currently the build/test farms are scheduled for 6-9 months out.
Does the build/test
> But then I see these failures as well on both disks: ata_set_feature:
> (0x66,0x0) failed
>
> I don't know if that means anything.
That's an ATA-ATAPI5 "SET FEATURES" command with parameter 0x66 which is
failing. Feature 0x66 is "Disable reverting to power-on defaults". It seems
that not
al
On 7/12/05, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Heya,So I'll be the first to admit that I'm having a bunch of fun getting toknow a new community of people - both on the mailing lists, blogs andIRC channels. Believe it or not, as a desktop engineer working on GNOME
for 5 years, I've had no littl
> > is a getting a jittery USB mouse and skipping in
> xmms during IO loads)
>
>
> What kind of media are you using in xmms?
playing ogg files.
> Or are you playing compressed audio clips
> (Ogg/Vorbis, MP3, ???)
> stored on a local filesystem? (Maybe some other
> process is using all
> spare
Glynn Foster wrote:
So the discussion mostly goes 'Oh, you're from X - I thought you were
from Y', and I thought that having a world wide map of where we all are
would be a nice addition to the project -
Sounds cool, but somehow I think the spot around the south end of
San Francisco Bay will so
> Alan DuBoff wrote:
> > Originally, before Solaris turned into OpenSolaris,
> and when Sun was adding to
> > the Companion CD, the idea some in the community
> had was to build upon it so
> > we didn't duplicate and add what was not there in
> hopes that it would
> > eventually move into the Co
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:49:59AM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> The problem with that is since the Companion CD is only updated with new
> Solaris releases, you'ld be stuck with whatever the latest version on a
That can be changed. I wasn't sure we were really ready for this
discussion, but
>I found that in Xsun.0.log, the sun system can identified my display card
>Matrox P650/P750 and it
is the reason why the display is OK during installation.
>
>But in Xorg.0.log, it show that it cannot locate my display card.
>
>How can i solve it and how to i use the information during inst
Alan DuBoff wrote:
Originally, before Solaris turned into OpenSolaris, and when Sun was adding to
the Companion CD, the idea some in the community had was to build upon it so
we didn't duplicate and add what was not there in hopes that it would
eventually move into the Companion CD through comm
> Stefan Teleman wrote:
>
> >There is a directory, /opt/fsw4sun/ referenced as
> well, I'm guessing its
> >freeware stuff built with studio 10.
> >
> >
> >
> >yes this is the big bundle of KDE depencies (also
> built with
> >SunStudio10) which i am hoping to get rid of and
> share all the
> >dep
On 7/12/05, Bill Sommerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 20:49, George Jereza wrote:
> > How to measure openness? What about like "look, but
> > no touch! Or if you must touch, go ahead ... NO, NOT
> > THERE!! :-)
>
> we've been there:
>
> 5088704 kmdb should tell dtrace t
I found that in Xsun.0.log, the sun system can identified my display card
Matrox P650/P750 and it is the reason why the display is OK during installation.
But in Xorg.0.log, it show that it cannot locate my display card.
How can i solve it and how to i use the information during installation
Hi all
In http://opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/, Tool section, "Improved workflow
tools updated to reflect evolved dev. processes" is listed as 9-12 month target
date. I don't know the detail goal of this task but following is my suggestion
that
can streamline opensolaris developement proce
Hey,
> > Yes, it's a little insane alright. I think we should be safe and sane
> > with libpng, libjpeg, libz as they are relatively slow moving and their
> > interfaces are pretty stable [although currently marked as 'External'
> > in /usr/sfw].
>
> speaking of libpng, i built 1.2.8 because
Hi !
I am sure there are plans for releasing sources
for builds 18, 19, etc. Can these plans be shared
with the community ?
Cyril
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On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 07:06, Sunil wrote:
> I am not talking about distros here. that will happen eventually.
> I am talking in general about safe mode present in all official sun
> installs and whatever is present today.
Sunil, the thing is that the community is not involved in the Solaris
ope
Stephen Lau wrote:
Hi Diana,
Our plan is to have build/test farms at some point in the future.
Our roadmap is online: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/
Currently the build/test farms are scheduled for 6-9 months out.
Does the build/test farms scheduled are open to communit
Hey,
> Right now, there's just me -
>
> http://www.gnome.org/~gman/OpenSolarisWorldWide.jpg
Not just me anymore - thanks guys for the updates. Keep sending them! :)
> Reply to me directly with something like the following -
>
> -43.5326 172.6362 "gman" # Glynn Foster, Christchurch, New Z
> I get terrible performance problems
> some of the times(reported here in a separate thread
> but didn't get much response from people, so assuming
> that everyone
everyone?
Or noone?
> is a getting a jittery USB mouse and skipping in xmms during IO loads)
What kind of media are you using in
>I did get most of yate to compile on Solaris with only a very few
>issues:
>
>- osschan depends on OSS, which Solaris doesn't have; I just
> disabled it.
Well, for some of US "OSS" is a requirement or sound won't work.
>- Mutex.cpp depends on PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE_NP,
> > See this post:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/solarisx86/message/26749
>
> I didn't really understand what he was tryin to say in that post.
If you look at "prtconf -Dv" output, you'll notice that the interrupt handlers
for
the USB host controller devices all run at interrupt priority l
Hi,
I'm glad to hear there are plans to have an article link on
the front page. (And even more happy to hear when
someone has read what I've written and liked it. Thanks, Ben!).
I would like to know more about the review process. I am planning
on more articles (in addition to what I am already
Ben Rockwood wrote:
Jim Grisanzio wrote:
Ben Rockwood wrote:
Jim Grisanzio wrote:
I did a little blog pointing to the articles on opensolaris.org:
http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris?entry=some_articles_on_opensolaris
We'll eventually have to link to these from the front page. There
are few mo
Ben Rockwood wrote:
And for the rest of us... http://www.lat-long.com/
In the USA that is
Go All Blacks!
Where?
Ian
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Alan Hargreaves wrote:
For those folk in Australia, http://life.csu.edu.au/geo/findlatlong.html is a
good site. They bought the stuff from the Bureau of Stats from the 1996 Census;
so it is pretty comprehensive and accurate (gawd, it found the suburb that I
live in up on the Central Coast [Ma
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 05:11 pm, Stefan Teleman wrote:
> i was referring to all the libraries on which both GNOME and KDE have
> dependencies. for example: libxml2, libxslt, libpng, libz, libjpeg,
> etc, etc.
>
> currently, the situation seems to me a little out of control.
You think so?
This
Ian Collins wrote:
Gerhard S. wrote:
It is quite counterproductive. The numbers are so far off reality
that every reader will know immediately the vote was rigged.
It might be a bit skewed, but has AMD64 gripped the imagination of other
communities the way it has on Solaris?
Solaris has
Jim Grisanzio wrote:
Ben Rockwood wrote:
Jim Grisanzio wrote:
I did a little blog pointing to the articles on opensolaris.org:
http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris?entry=some_articles_on_opensolaris
We'll eventually have to link to these from the front page. There
are few more articles written an
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