> You got the point, there are too many Unix PMS.
> Variation is not diversity. Variation increase the
> cost of any engineering task.
Oversight: there are so many UNIX software management systems out there because
not only do those account for the packages on the system, they account for
spec
thanks all for pointing which package has the PAM libraries.
I downloaded the iso file and burned it onto a CD and looks like SUNWcsl got
corrupted possibly during the write. I redownloaded CD1 and mounted it using
lofiadm and I successfuly installed the package.
I am able to login :-)
Now I
The reason I abandoned Debian and went to Gentoo was because I couldn't have all
the applications I wanted installed at the same time due to conflicting library
requirements. At least Gentoo has slots which handles these sorts of things. I
think the best package management system does not exist y
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Eric Boutilier wrote:
> Third: Sun is not the final arbiter of what OpenSolaris becomes;
> however, it is the final arbiter of what Solaris is/becomes.
Slight clarification: Because Sun owns the copyright on the word
OpenSolaris, I suppose Sun _could_, in theory exercise ulti
Dave Miner wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
...
I thought we are still in hope that the SVr4 pkg system
will become OpenSource soon.
Let me provide an update. We who are responsible for the install and
packaging code are just now beginning the diligence research required so
that we can relea
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Keith M. Wesolowski wrote:
>
> [...]
> From a technical standpoint, OpenSolaris and Solaris are the same...
That's where I agree more with the opposing viewpoint Joerg and others
have in this regard. First: OpenSolaris is a code base; Solaris is a
platform. Second: if we advanc
Eric wites:
> > > As time progresses OpenSolaris will run ahead of the
> > > music, and introduce incomaptibilites with Solaris. That's
> >
> > This is not the plan and is not our announced intent...
>
> Do you mean it's not our (Sun's) intent to also help
> cultivate new,
> innovative ways to us
Andy Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/4/05, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sun needs to opensource the package system or to rewrite
> > the zones code. Sun advertizes that OpenSolaris includes
> > Zones but they rely on the missing package system.
>
> Until the packaging so
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am working on a simple package system that allows an automated
> > generation of SchilliX. If I sum up the time I was working on
> > things (missing to be OSS) like libm, packaging etc., it seems that
> > more than half of the time I am working on Sc
On 8/4/05, Magnus Forsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been playing with OpenPKG for a while.
>
> What I don't like about it:
> - RPMs are of no use if you want to customize the build (all rpms install in
> /openpkg/*)
That's wrong. You have acess to the .src.rpm for customisations, and
if
On 8/4/05, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sun needs to opensource the package system or to rewrite
> the zones code. Sun advertizes that OpenSolaris includes
> Zones but they rely on the missing package system.
Until the packaging source (or at least redistributable binaries) is
rele
* Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-02 23:21]:
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Stephen Hahn wrote:
>
> >This message proposes the creation of an Approachability community
> >for OpenSolaris. Please discuss.
>
> +1
>
> But you would probably need a definition of what is the difference between
Hi.
The best package management system I saw in a *nix like system: apt tools.
It solves the dependency problems, installs or deinstalls taking care of
libraries, etc.
Greetings.
HeCSa.
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opensolaris-discuss ma
Hi.
RPM is a good tool, but has some limitations with the management of the
dependencies.
I think APT-like commands works in a better way, and in some Debian based
distros, like Debian, Ubuntu, etc., if you want to upgrade your entire system
you only need to do a "apt-get dist-upgrade", that's a
Dragan Cvetkovic wrote:
Suresh, I did an upgrade from nv18 to nv19 here and I do have these PAM
libraries, but I am talking an x86 system, not SPARC. They are part of
SUNWcls in my case:
Suresh, whereas Dragan did the upgrade route on x86, I have
just done a fresh install of nv_19 on SPARC,
I've been playing with OpenPKG for a while.
What I don't like about it:
- RPMs are of no use if you want to customize the build (all rpms install in
/openpkg/*)
- It lives in a self-contained area
> I'm sure this is necessary in multi-OS environment because everyone have
their own directory standa
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> "Ferdinand O. Tempel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I thought we are still in hope that the SVr4 pkg system
> > will become OpenSource soon.
> >
> > Lets start working on solutions anyway. Just in case you run out of breath
> > while you hold it wh
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Stephen Hahn wrote:
> * Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-29 11:44]:
> > [...]
> > I think you should be looking more
> > closely at the FreeBSD and Apache styles of development, which
> > have successfully integrated strong peer review and stable
> > interface revis
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Stephen Lau wrote:
Hi Suresh,
Here is the URL for the "no source" list, which lists the components
of Solaris which haven't yet been open sourced:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/no_source/
PAM is listed as one of the components that we plan to release soon, but
hav
Hello.
I posted a note on the ug:discuss forum, two days ago, with no answer.
I will start the Argentina OpenSolaris Users Group, how is the procedure to
make it appear on the OS frontpage, and to have a mailing list, etc.?
Thanks a lot.
HeCSa.
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Sorry, Bonnie pointed out to me that you were talking about Solaris
Express - NOT OpenSolaris. I misread your email, sorry...
Solaris Express *should* contain everything. I haven't tried installing
the SX b19 isos yet, but I looked at the ISO image (disc1) and the
SUNWcsl package that's on t
Joerg Schilling wrote:
...
I thought we are still in hope that the SVr4 pkg system
will become OpenSource soon.
Let me provide an update. We who are responsible for the install and
packaging code are just now beginning the diligence research required so
that we can release it. The basic pl
Hi Suresh,
Here is the URL for the "no source" list, which lists the components of
Solaris which haven't yet been open sourced:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/no_source/
PAM is listed as one of the components that we plan to release soon, but
haven't yet.
cheers,
steve
Suresh wrote:
I've been playing with OpenPKG for a while.
What I don't like about it:
- RPMs are of no use if you want to customize the build (all rpms install in
/openpkg/*)
- It lives in a self-contained area
> I'm sure this is necessary in multi-OS environment because everyone have
> their own directory st
"Ferdinand O. Tempel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I thought we are still in hope that the SVr4 pkg system
> will become OpenSource soon.
>
> Lets start working on solutions anyway. Just in case you run out of breath
> while you hold it while waiting for Sun to release. Why rely on kindness on
>
> One should NEVER, EVER "install manually" unless you
> are about to make a package out of the software, and
> even in that case one should use `lofiadm` / LOFS to
> create a fake root to install into.
>
> No software should ever be installed on the system
> unless it's packaged, period.
Ditt
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