[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread UNIX admin
> I'd rather run straight UFS than have to ever deal > with SVM/SDS again. Why? SVM has really come a long way. It's integrated into Solaris by default and very reliable. I can't count the number of times SVM has saved me, not to mention increased I/O performance if configured correctly. This

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread UNIX admin
> It's a bit of work to set up, and it's not supported. > x86 only for now. > You still need a UFS slice somewhere to hold the boot > archive. But it does work; my 2 x 2 GHz amd box > boots > w/ zfs root. > > Once grub groks zfs, the need for the slice will go > away. You mean you have a UFS /bo

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread UNIX admin
> Well I can tell you that I am still sitting on the > fence here. > > Its not an uncomfortable position either. > > On the one hand I can just install Solaris 10 Update > 1 and create the > fielsystem that I need with SVM and life goes on. > Apply power and > then walk away. > > On the other h

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Code gates

2006-03-08 Thread Danek Duvall
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:21:35AM -0800, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > One hopes that his actions are logical, but they're not all programmatic. Many are, though. At present, since we're teamware based, the following happens: - gateling does a putback - putback sends a message to a handful

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: lofi [ compression & encryption ]

2006-03-08 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Thanks, Darren. You have a second(s). Eric will get you set up. Jim Darren J Moffat wrote: OpenSolaris has the lofi(7d) driver that allows you to use a file in a filesystem as a block device. Over in the Security Community you will see some info that some of us have created some crypto suppor

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Newsletter ---- February 2006

2006-03-08 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Linda Bernal wrote: Jim Grisanzio wrote On 03/07/06 17:42,: Here is an update on OpenSolaris for the month of February: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/content/newsletter/feb06/ We are accepting contributions for the March newsletter, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Newsletter ---- February 2006

2006-03-08 Thread Linda Bernal
Jim Grisanzio wrote On 03/07/06 17:42,: Linda Bernal wrote: Here is an update on OpenSolaris for the month of February: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/content/newsletter/feb06/ We are accepting contributions for the March newsletter, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Re: [request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Miner
Danek Duvall wrote: On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:40:39PM -0700, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote: I will back this up from the request sponser POV. In my case an RPE engineer had already fixed the bug and putback into Nevada. However we don't require people to update the "fixed" in bugster. People have

Re: [request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 03:06:46PM -0800, Danek Duvall wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:40:39PM -0700, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote: > > > I will back this up from the request sponser POV. In my case an RPE > > engineer > > had already fixed the bug and putback into Nevada. However we don't > > r

Re: [request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Danek Duvall
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:40:39PM -0700, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote: > I will back this up from the request sponser POV. In my case an RPE engineer > had already fixed the bug and putback into Nevada. However we don't require > people to update the "fixed" in bugster. People have suggested that w

Re: [osol-discuss] WARNING: jump_pid < 0 or >= pidmax; ignored

2006-03-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/8/06, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you set pidmax, then the system will turn off jumppid, as you can't > jump past the maximum. I removed the pidmax setting and the WARNING is gone : Executing last command: boot -r Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL

Re: [osol-discuss] WARNING: jump_pid < 0 or >= pidmax; ignored

2006-03-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/8/06, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis Clarke writes: > > I am not to sure what to make of the WARNING message : > > > > WARNING: jump_pid < 0 or >= pidmax; ignored > > http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/on/usr/src/uts/common/conf/param.c#675 > > > but I can only assum

Re: [osol-discuss] WARNING: jump_pid < 0 or >= pidmax; ignored

2006-03-08 Thread James Carlson
Dennis Clarke writes: > I am not to sure what to make of the WARNING message : > > WARNING: jump_pid < 0 or >= pidmax; ignored http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/on/usr/src/uts/common/conf/param.c#675 > but I can only assume that setting pidmax = 32767 was a bad thing. It's mostly harml

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Bart Smaalders
James Dickens wrote: On 3/8/06, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bill Bradford wrote: I'd rather run straight UFS than have to ever deal with SVM/SDS again. Unfortunately, zfs-boot is a ways down the road. 8-( not true... 6374062 mountroot support needed for ZFS just putback on friday.

Re: [osol-discuss] WARNING: jump_pid < 0 or >= pidmax; ignored

2006-03-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/8/06, Cyril Plisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > As a comparison I tried the same thing on an unmodified Red Hat > > Enterprise Linux 4 AS 64-bit server. It simply packed up and went > > away. Totally. Gone in less than one second and nothing worked > > anymore. Not the mouse and not

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/8/06, Jonathan Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 01:30:47PM -0800, Stephen Lau wrote: > > Bill Bradford wrote: > > >I'd rather run straight UFS than have to ever deal with SVM/SDS again. > > > > > >Unfortunately, zfs-boot is a ways down the road. 8-( > > > > not true..

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread James Dickens
On 3/8/06, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Bradford wrote: > > I'd rather run straight UFS than have to ever deal with SVM/SDS again. > > > > Unfortunately, zfs-boot is a ways down the road. 8-( > > not true... > 6374062 mountroot support needed for ZFS > just putback on friday. > --

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 01:30:47PM -0800, Stephen Lau wrote: > Bill Bradford wrote: > >I'd rather run straight UFS than have to ever deal with SVM/SDS again. > > > >Unfortunately, zfs-boot is a ways down the road. 8-( > > not true... > 6374062 mountroot support needed for ZFS > just putback on fri

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Stephen Lau
Bill Bradford wrote: I'd rather run straight UFS than have to ever deal with SVM/SDS again. Unfortunately, zfs-boot is a ways down the road. 8-( not true... 6374062 mountroot support needed for ZFS just putback on friday. -- stephen lau // [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net

Re: [osol-discuss] WARNING: jump_pid < 0 or >= pidmax; ignored

2006-03-08 Thread Cyril Plisko
> > As a comparison I tried the same thing on an unmodified Red Hat > Enterprise Linux 4 AS 64-bit server. It simply packed up and went > away. Totally. Gone in less than one second and nothing worked > anymore. Not the mouse and not even the NumLock light on the > keyboard. I don't like playn

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Bill Bradford
I'd rather run straight UFS than have to ever deal with SVM/SDS again. Unfortunately, zfs-boot is a ways down the road. 8-( Bill On 3/8/06, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the one hand I can just install Solaris 10 Update 1 and create the > fielsystem that I need with SVM and life

[osol-discuss] WARNING: jump_pid < 0 or >= pidmax; ignored

2006-03-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
[ This is a long long message but worth reading .. I hope ] James Dickens posted an interesting topic in his blog : http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/03/defusing-bombs.html Thus I just had to run the famous bash fork bomb on my new build 35 based server. Needless to say the machine became rea

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/8/06, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > On the one hand I can just install Solaris 10 Update 1 and create the > fielsystem that I need with SVM and life goes on. Apply power and > then walk away. > > On the other hand I can sit and wait a litt

Re: [request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Dan Price
On Wed 08 Mar 2006 at 10:49AM, Karyn Ritter wrote: > I'll figure out where to put the definitions. This the real status that > is in Bugster, so we need to document it anyway So, I wonder if we could use Perl's WWW::Mechanize [1] or something equivalent to automate the updating of pages. The

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: On the one hand I can just install Solaris 10 Update 1 and create the fielsystem that I need with SVM and life goes on. Apply power and then walk away. On the other hand I can sit and wait a little while for the build 36 codedrop. then I accept the risks

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/8/06, Bart Smaalders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > UNIX admin wrote: > >> Build 36 has a big wad of ZFS changes including many > >> performance > >> fixes, FMA support, error handling, etc. > >> > >> Many of us have been running ZFS in "production" for > >> quite a > >> while; the work in build

Re: [request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Karyn Ritter
I'll figure out where to put the definitions. This the real status that is in Bugster, so we need to document it anyway Thanks, Karyn Bill Rushmore wrote: On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Karyn Ritter wrote: Would something like the table I've just created at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/bug_repo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Bart Smaalders
UNIX admin wrote: Build 36 has a big wad of ZFS changes including many performance fixes, FMA support, error handling, etc. Many of us have been running ZFS in "production" for quite a while; the work in build 36 is a big step forward. Yeah but the question is, will these be backported into th

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: lofi [ compression & encryption ]

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Miner
Darren J Moffat wrote: OpenSolaris has the lofi(7d) driver that allows you to use a file in a filesystem as a block device. Over in the Security Community you will see some info that some of us have created some crypto support for lofi(7d), though we have been slack on posting the code. Belenix

Re: [request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Karyn Ritter wrote: > Would something like the table I've just created at > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/bug_reports/oss_bite_size/ help? I need to > work out the answers to many additional questions surrounding this table > -- the least of which is how often I can reasonabl

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: lofi [ compression & encryption ]

2006-03-08 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-08 04:32]: > OpenSolaris has the lofi(7d) driver that allows you to use a file > in a filesystem as a block device. > > Over in the Security Community you will see some info that some of > us have created some crypto support for lofi(7d), though we ha

Re: [request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] 1 new request-sponsor putback: 39 total

2006-03-08 Thread Karyn Ritter
[Apologies if this has already been responded to... I'm catching up.] The code for bugs.opensolaris.org (and bugs.sun.com) are not sophisticated enough to be able to do this. The application we use currently shares the same code base as bugs.sun.com. Because Suggested Fix often contains code t

Re: [request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Karyn Ritter
Bill, Bill Rushmore wrote: On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Jim Grisanzio wrote: * For those who are thinking about contributing code, what can we do to help you get started? Would more oss-bite-size bugs help? More oss-bite-size would be nice. I also have a couple of suggestions for the bug list.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RFE: /etc/system tuneable tosetthedefaultpagesize

2006-03-08 Thread David S. Miller
From: Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:51:37 +0100 > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2006-March/013917.html). I read that email before I replied, it was quoted in the email you originally CC:'d me on. sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) should return the cor

[osol-discuss] Project Proposal: lofi [ compression & encryption ]

2006-03-08 Thread Darren J Moffat
OpenSolaris has the lofi(7d) driver that allows you to use a file in a filesystem as a block device. Over in the Security Community you will see some info that some of us have created some crypto support for lofi(7d), though we have been slack on posting the code. Belenix has compression support

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread Darren J Moffat
UNIX admin wrote: Depends on your definition of soon when it comes to the crypto support. There is no funded and agreed on roadmap yet even though the project exists in opensolaris.org land. If there is one essential feature that ZFS currently lacks, I believe that feature would be encryption

[osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread UNIX admin
> Build 36 has a big wad of ZFS changes including many > performance > fixes, FMA support, error handling, etc. > > Many of us have been running ZFS in "production" for > quite a > while; the work in build 36 is a big step forward. Yeah but the question is, will these be backported into the first

[osol-discuss] Re: Can we consider ZFS to be production ready now ?

2006-03-08 Thread UNIX admin
> Depends on your definition of soon when it comes to > the crypto > support. There is no funded and agreed on roadmap > yet even though > the project exists in opensolaris.org land. If there is one essential feature that ZFS currently lacks, I believe that feature would be encryption. This mess

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Code gates

2006-03-08 Thread UNIX admin
> http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/on/usr/src/too > ls/scripts/wx.sh > > http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/on/usr/src/too > ls/scripts/wx.1 I haven't seen such nice pieces of SHELL scripting code in years (I'm surrounded by one "expert" next to the other -- don't ask.) This message

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Code gates

2006-03-08 Thread UNIX admin
> As nobody's mentioned it in this thread... 'wx' > takes care of most of > the automatic checks, and can (must) be run by ON > developers before > putting the changes from their gates back into the > main gate. It > checks for things like cstyle compliance, workspace > cleanliness, and > copy