Re: [osol-discuss] 64bit ncrs driver not available?

2006-03-21 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On 3/21/06, Wai-Sun Chia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/22/06, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:06 am, Wai-Sun Chia wrote: > > > No, unfortunately there isn't. I tried to get the ncrs included into 64-bit, > > Kudos to you for trying! :-) > > > but it was tu

Re: [osol-discuss] 64bit ncrs driver not available?

2006-03-21 Thread Wai-Sun Chia
On 3/22/06, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:06 am, Wai-Sun Chia wrote: > No, unfortunately there isn't. I tried to get the ncrs included into 64-bit, Kudos to you for trying! :-) > but it was turned down with the reason being that the controllers were old Bo

[osol-discuss] SVOSUG meeting this Thurs! 03/23/06 7:30pm SCA03

2006-03-21 Thread Alan DuBoff
Folks, sorry for the late notice, and I will be sending another notice out on Thursday morning to remind folks of the meeting Thursday night. This month Dan Price will be giving a presentation on "What is Solaris Nevada?". Many of the community folks know Dan and have met him either at the SVOS

Re: [osol-discuss] Creating new device node in device tree at system startup.

2006-03-21 Thread Louis Gagne
I have tried this too, but when you try and map the registers with the ddi_regs_map_setup() there's nothing to map and the call fails. There is also the secondary problem of writing to the 6300ESB register space so that LPC configuration can provide access to the IO space. Lou Artem Kachitch

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Eric Boutilier
Joel Estes wrote: > Bart Smaalders wrote: You're not forced to use them for your own software; put your libraries in /usr/local/lib or /opt/xxx and link with that. - Bart I normaly do exactly that. But that still leaves the user with 481 MB of bloat in /usr/sfw , most of which is not r

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Red Hat vs. Sun processor number war: 64:21 - RH wins!

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Felix Schulte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/21/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given the fact that even a single Opteron machine is something rare, it > > seems > > that the prices are OK. Of course it may take you a while to find the right > > board for your needs..

Re: "-xstrconst" patch / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Footprint: Compiling kernel+tools with "-xstrconst -xbuiltin=%all"

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This reminds me of to ask when code review will be possible by people > > from outsude Sun. > > Can you be more specific about what kind of code review actions you > mean? For instance, wearing my RTI advocate hat, I would probably > accept RTI s

Re: [osol-discuss] 64bit ncrs driver not available?

2006-03-21 Thread James C. McPherson
Alan DuBoff wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:06 am, Wai-Sun Chia wrote: After having problems of not having an adp driver available for my 64-bit system, I swapped the Adaptec AHA-2940 for a SymbiosLogic/NCR sym85c8xx card (from Compaq). Whaddya know? Solaris-express (snv_b34) doesn't have a 6

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCR/onnv status

2006-03-21 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Karyn Ritter wrote: > As you know, SXCR build 35 was released on Friday (3/17). SXCR build 36 is on > track for delivery on 3/31. > > Steve will be pushing out a nightly snapshot of onnv_37 in the next couple of > days. Many thanks (as always) for these updates, Karyn. They

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCR/onnv status

2006-03-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/21/06, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karyn Ritter wrote: > > As you know, SXCR build 35 was released on Friday (3/17). SXCR build 36 > > is on track for delivery on 3/31. > > > > Steve will be pushing out a nightly snapshot of onnv_37 in the next > > pushed out -8 minutes ago... >

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCR/onnv status

2006-03-21 Thread Stephen Lau
Karyn Ritter wrote: As you know, SXCR build 35 was released on Friday (3/17). SXCR build 36 is on track for delivery on 3/31. Steve will be pushing out a nightly snapshot of onnv_37 in the next pushed out -8 minutes ago... cheers, steve -- stephen lau // [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 650.786.0845 | h

Re: [osol-discuss] 64bit ncrs driver not available?

2006-03-21 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:06 am, Wai-Sun Chia wrote: > After having problems of not having an adp driver available for my > 64-bit system, I swapped the Adaptec AHA-2940 for a SymbiosLogic/NCR > sym85c8xx card (from Compaq). > > Whaddya know? Solaris-express (snv_b34) doesn't have a 64bit ncrs >

[osol-discuss] SXCR/onnv status

2006-03-21 Thread Karyn Ritter
As you know, SXCR build 35 was released on Friday (3/17). SXCR build 36 is on track for delivery on 3/31. Steve will be pushing out a nightly snapshot of onnv_37 in the next couple of days. Thanks, Karyn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensol

[osol-discuss] Re: Problems booting Solaris (10 01/06,

2006-03-21 Thread Jean-François Ndi
> I don't think there is enough resources to work on > that bug id. > > ---Bob If I can help count me in. Regards, J-F This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread James Carlson
Darren J Moffat writes: > Dennis Clarke wrote:> > > Once something is in the "wos" then thats is it. It is part of the > > operating system. The concept of "core" operating system is a matter > > for discussion but the "wos" is the whole thing right ? > > Yeah I guess "core" is a problematic ter

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Darren J Moffat
Dennis Clarke wrote:> Once something is in the "wos" then thats is it. It is part of the operating system. The concept of "core" operating system is a matter for discussion but the "wos" is the whole thing right ? Yeah I guess "core" is a problematic term here. What about "part of the operat

[osol-discuss] Re: Creating new device node in device tree at system startup.

2006-03-21 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
> I have tried this too, but when you try and map the registers with the > ddi_regs_map_setup() there's nothing to map and the call fails. ddi_regs_map_setup() only maps what the "reg" property contains. Have you set "regs" in your .conf file? See driver.conf(4) file for details and examples. >

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread James Carlson
Joerg Schilling writes: > James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alan Coopersmith writes: > > > Solaris filesystem locations have also traditionally conformed to the > > > SVID standard (originally from AT&T to define what SVR4 was), but I > > > don't know if we've kept up to date on that.

[osol-discuss] Re: Problems booting Solaris (10 01/06,

2006-03-21 Thread Bob Palowoda
> > BTW: I appreciate your efforts and those of others > > that identify ways and means of working around > issues > > like this one. I am a bit suprised that this > issue > > hasn't been addressed by someone in SUN since it > > makes OpenSolaris effectively useless for a whole > > class of lapt

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/21/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > (1) Is there a UNIX standard ? ( this is just yes or no ) > > no, because there are no UNIX standards. There are X/Open standards > and IETF standards and SVR4 ABI requirements etc etc etc. Sort of a questi

[osol-discuss] Re: Creating new device node in device tree at system startup.

2006-03-21 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
Instead of creating a node, you could install your driver as a pseudo driver, by creating a /kernel/drv/ipmi_lpc.conf (or whatever's you driver name) file containing the line: name="ipmi_lpc" parent="pseudo" instance=0; The system will load the driver even if there isn't a hardware node for it.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/21/06, Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > Was there a document at some point in history ( this is UNIX and it > > has tons of history ) called the FSSTD or was it FHS ? > > > > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html > > ( this may be a Linux an

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Coopersmith writes: > > Solaris filesystem locations have also traditionally conformed to the > > SVID standard (originally from AT&T to define what SVR4 was), but I > > don't know if we've kept up to date on that. > > "man -s 5 standards" gives some

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread James Carlson
Alan Coopersmith writes: > Solaris filesystem locations have also traditionally conformed to the > SVID standard (originally from AT&T to define what SVR4 was), but I > don't know if we've kept up to date on that. "man -s 5 standards" gives some background information on this. -- James Carlson,

[osol-discuss] Creating new device node in device tree at system startup.

2006-03-21 Thread Louis Gagne
I have implemented a character driver under X86 based Solaris 10 release 3/05 that interfaces with a device on the ISA/LPC interface using Intels 6300ESB I/O controller Hub. This device is not defined by the system BIOS at boot time, so we had to do this manually by modifying the boot startup s

[osol-discuss] Re: Problems booting Solaris (10 01/06,

2006-03-21 Thread Jean-François Ndi
> BTW: I appreciate your efforts and those of others > that identify ways and means of working around issues > like this one. I am a bit suprised that this issue > hasn't been addressed by someone in SUN since it > makes OpenSolaris effectively useless for a whole > class of laptops. I have rep

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dennis Clarke wrote: Was there a document at some point in history ( this is UNIX and it has tons of history ) called the FSSTD or was it FHS ? http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html ( this may be a Linux animal however ) That's the Linux Standards Base filesystem layout, and sho

[osol-discuss] Re: Problems booting Solaris (10 01/06,

2006-03-21 Thread Charles Meeks
> > Bruno, Good luck! You will certainly need it. I > have > > tried nv28, nv30, nv33, nv34, nexenta, belenix. > > None of these install and boot correctly on my > > my pavilion hp4530us, or pavilion sv6000(this one > > exibits exactly the same (mis)behavior as you > > describe).As far as I am

Re: [osol-discuss] Build just the 32bit parts of kernel and tools - possible?

2006-03-21 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 05:14:40PM +0100, Felix Schulte wrote: > Does On Trunk allow that only the 32bit i386 bits are build and > packaged? I would like to reduce the compile time of the kernel if > this is possible. No, but you may be able to start by playing with BUILD64. From Makefile.master

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Features found in other OS you'd like to see in Solaris

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the case of the sound driver: there are cases where the driver thinks > it's all OK but the sound is distorted; so a more generic "reset this > device" function might be more appropriate. with /dev/scg, you coul dreset the bus or a device. I would like to see this

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Darren J Moffat
Dennis Clarke wrote: (1) Is there a UNIX standard ? ( this is just yes or no ) no, because there are no UNIX standards. There are X/Open standards and IETF standards and SVR4 ABI requirements etc etc etc. (2) What is the UNIX standard? (3) Do we respect that standard ? ( Is

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/21/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Tribble wrote: > > Well, it's not *just* OpenSSL, but that was the main topic in the < snippage > > Which is why it is External and why it is currently in /usr/sfw. > Sorry for wading in at this late point but I have been reading and r

[osol-discuss] Re: Problems booting Solaris (10 01/06,

2006-03-21 Thread Jean-François Ndi
> Bruno, Good luck! You will certainly need it. I have > tried nv28, nv30, nv33, nv34, nexenta, belenix. > None of these install and boot correctly on my > my pavilion hp4530us, or pavilion sv6000(this one > exibits exactly the same (mis)behavior as you > describe).As far as I am concerned, an

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Building the kernel with Studio 11 supported?

2006-03-21 Thread Felix Schulte
On 3/10/06, Felix Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/7/06, Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Felix Schulte wrote: > > > > > > On 3/6/06, Keith M Wesolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 07:09:32PM +0100, Felix Schulte wrote: > > > > > > > > > We only ha

[osol-discuss] From On build to DVD ISO - how?

2006-03-21 Thread Felix Schulte
I am seeking for the full step by step instructions what I have to do after (dmake setup; dmake) in usr/src/ to make a full On DVD ISO image which I can burn and then install on a i386 machine. -- _Felix Schulte _|_|_ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (0 0) ooO--(_)--Ooo __

Re: [osol-discuss] Driver Porting Question

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What, are you kidding me? ;) > > http://lwn.net/Articles/173209/ > > "Stable: Interfaces classified as stable will not break 'for at least > two years', and probably quite a bit longer. The Linux system call > interface is classified in this way" This is

[osol-discuss] Build just the 32bit parts of kernel and tools - possible?

2006-03-21 Thread Felix Schulte
Does On Trunk allow that only the 32bit i386 bits are build and packaged? I would like to reduce the compile time of the kernel if this is possible. -- _Felix Schulte _|_|_ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (0 0) ooO--(_)--Ooo ___ opensol

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Red Hat vs. Sun processor number war: 64:21 - RH wins!

2006-03-21 Thread Felix Schulte
On 3/21/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given the fact that even a single Opteron machine is something rare, it seems > that the prices are OK. Of course it may take you a while to find the right > board for your needs.. AMD 64 X2 serves the same purpose as single chip Opteron

Re: "-xstrconst" patch / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Footprint: Compiling kernel+tools with "-xstrconst -xbuiltin=%all"

2006-03-21 Thread James Carlson
Joerg Schilling writes: > > That would mean "the strchr function takes a pointer to character > > argument, it does not modify the storage pointed to, and the value it > > returns has the same storage qualifiers as the first argument." > > If the #pragma only affects the storage attributes (as I i

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Darren J Moffat
Peter Tribble wrote: Well, it's not *just* OpenSSL, but that was the main topic in the thread. Actually, my experience is that openssl is incredibly fragile. If I build 0.9.7 myself and use my version then I have very few problems, but building against the /usr/sfw version gave me a lot of grief

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Features found in other OS you'd like to see in Solaris

2006-03-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>But if my window manager pops up an information window, which says : > >"Hurg ! It seems your naughty sound card driver has crashed. >Do you want to try to reset it ? [YES] [NO] >Do you want to unload and reload it ? [YES] [NO] >Do you want to send a bug report to the maintainer ? [YES] [NO] >Do

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from th

2006-03-21 Thread Andrew Watkins
I just had a quick look at /usr/sfw and there are many packages which you can remove if you wish, since there is about 16000 files made out of 93 packages. If you don't want it remove it, but at least you have the choice and I find myself not install as much software from sunfreeware.com as I di

[osol-discuss] Re: iSCSI Target implementation?

2006-03-21 Thread Nigel Smith
Yes, please could you check & report back if any work or progress is being made on 'iSCSI target' support for Solaris. If it were possible to team-up an SCSI target with the ZFS filesystem, it would be really useful, and get lot's of new people using Solaris. A good iSCSI target is available fo

Re: "-xstrconst" patch / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Footprint: Compiling kernel+tools with "-xstrconst -xbuiltin=%all"

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >typeof(arg1) > > >strchr(const char *, char) > > > > > >or something similar that would carry the actual input over to the return > > >value. > > > > > > It would soon give you C++ type overloading. Might not be bad, but you > > know where to find

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the base O/

2006-03-21 Thread James Carlson
J. Estes writes: > I understand the need for http/https support in pkgadd, but the > argument that static linking leads to multiple copies of software > also occurs with dynamic linking, with bad results. As an example, > the pkgadd in Solaris 10 is dependent specifically on version > libopenssl.

Re: "-xstrconst" patch / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Footprint: Compiling kernel+tools with "-xstrconst -xbuiltin=%all"

2006-03-21 Thread James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >typeof(arg1) > >strchr(const char *, char) > > > >or something similar that would carry the actual input over to the return > >value. > > > It would soon give you C++ type overloading. Might not be bad, but you > know where to find C++ :-) A good subset of the func

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Peter Tribble
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 14:10, Darren J Moffat wrote: > Peter Tribble wrote: > > That's not at all reasonable. I certainly don't want applications > > or libraries that I may need to install my own versions of in > > the standard system locations. Doing so only makes the possibility > > of conflict m

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread James Carlson
J. Estes writes: > I normaly do exactly that. But that still leaves the user with 481 > MB of bloat in /usr/sfw , most of which is not required by the core > O/S. This does not include the enormous bloat of Gnome, either. If > OpenSSL is a requirement, the suggestion was made to move it to > /u

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Red Hat vs. Sun processor number war: 64:21 - RH wins!

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Walker - Sun Principal Engineer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Getting even dual socket motherboards for dual core Opterons is > > difficult, let alone boards that have more sockets than that. > > Not really. MSI has the MASTER2-FAR and MASTER2-FAR7 for ATX > formactor machines. I just bo

[osol-discuss] 64bit ncrs driver not available?

2006-03-21 Thread Wai-Sun Chia
After having problems of not having an adp driver available for my 64-bit system, I swapped the Adaptec AHA-2940 for a SymbiosLogic/NCR sym85c8xx card (from Compaq). Whaddya know? Solaris-express (snv_b34) doesn't have a 64bit ncrs driver for that too.. Is there anywhere where I could download a 6

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Darren J Moffat
Peter Tribble wrote: That's not at all reasonable. I certainly don't want applications or libraries that I may need to install my own versions of in the standard system locations. Doing so only makes the possibility of conflict more likely. Shoving things like openssl away in /usr/sfw is nice and

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-21 Thread Peter Tribble
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 05:21, J. Estes wrote: > > You're not forced to use them for your own software; > > put your libraries in /usr/local/lib or /opt/xxx and link > > with that. > > > > - Bart > > I normaly do exactly that. But that still leaves the user with > 481 MB of bloat in /usr/sfw , mo

Re: [osol-discuss] maxphys and sd_max_xfer_size

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steven Sim wrote: > > Hello all; > > > > I have always wondered why Sun's default value for maxphys is only > > 128Kbyte. > ... > > The fact that we still have kernel tunables for things like this makes me > want to check myself into the looney bin. > > We

[osol-discuss] 64bit adp driver for AHA-2940?

2006-03-21 Thread Wai-Sun Chia
Hello, I'm having a bear of a time trying to get my old AHA-2940 with my latest 64bit dual-core Pentium-D system... I'm getting: Mar 21 11:29:18 solaris krtld: [ID 469452 kern.info] NOTICE: adp: 64-bit driver module not found I'm running: SunOS solaris 5.11 snv_34 i86pc i386 i86pc I don't think I

Re: pkgadd's HTTP/HTTPS support / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw anditsdependencies from the base O/S...

2006-03-21 Thread Darren J Moffat
Roland Mainz wrote: James Carlson wrote: J. Estes writes: I would have them be completely divorced from the core O/S, such that core utilities like pkgadd/pkgrm are not dependent on 3rd party software, such as libopenssl.so, nor libgcc_s.so. Both /opt/sfw _and_ /usr/sfw should be configurable

Re: "-xstrconst" patch / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Footprint: Compiling kernel+tools with "-xstrconst -xbuiltin=%all"

2006-03-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>The question would be if the C standard commitee could define something like >this: > >typeof(arg1) >strchr(const char *, char) > >or something similar that would carry the actual input over to the return >value. It would soon give you C++ type overloading. Might not be bad, but you know whe

Re: [osol-discuss] Changing the {sh, ksh}-shells used to build ON...

2006-03-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>Is there a way to change the shells {/bin/sh, /bin/ksh} used to build ON >to an alternative set of {sh, ksh}-shells for testing ? I am seeking for >a way to do that without having to replace the system versions (which >would likely cause trouble in a multiuser environment) ? Most likely to wor

Re: "-xstrconst" patch / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Footprint: Compiling kernel+tools with "-xstrconst -xbuiltin=%all"

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The C standards folks aren't that stupid. The function should not > have their return values const qualified because in the majority > of cases: > - the argument isn't const > - the return value is going to be modified. > > The const qualifier for the argume

Re: [osol-discuss] Red Hat vs. Sun processor number war: 64:21 - RHwins!

2006-03-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>Well, if max_ncpus was just properly set to the actual maximum, as Andrei's >follow-on is done correctly, they wouldn't be allocating all this >extra space. Historically, SPARC has always done so, but x86 hasn't known >how many CPUs it had early enough in the boot process to set it correctly.

Re: "-xstrconst" patch / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Footprint: Compiling kernel+tools with "-xstrconst -xbuiltin=%all"

2006-03-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>Yes, there are a number of standard library and system functions which >could or should have their return types const-qualified but don't. >Historical and conformance reasons, of course, but it makes >-Wwrite-strings and similar options rather useless. The C standards folks aren't that stupid.