Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-04 Thread Stephen Lau
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 06:42:30PM -0700, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > As an OGB > > member, I don't > > have the time to do all that, > > -- > > Keith M Wesolowski "Sir, we're surrounded!" > > FishWorks "Excellent; we can attack in any > > direction!" > > ___

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Problem with Driver Intel Chipset 945G

2007-06-04 Thread John Brewer
Check out man page of lucreate , luupgrade, luactivate, lustatus just setup a unused slice and label as root under format This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal for Community - Port OpenSolaris to System z

2007-06-04 Thread Neale Ferguson
Yes please. I'm assuming that since the proposal's been up for > 1 week and there's been at least 1 +1 things should be able to proceed. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Walker
> >I'm glad you brought this up. I'm working on establishing test > >resources on opensolaris.org (ie. self-service testing and test farm), > >and need a way to limit who gets access, since I won't be able to > >support everyone with an OpenSolaris user name. > > > >I'm targeting non-Sun code contr

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> But the question of multimedia codecs has already > been answered, and the answer isn't the command line > interface. The real answer is "include by default > all the desirable codecs you can, and then make it > easy to install any leftovers from your app > installation GUI". That standard has

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-04 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
As an OGB > member, I don't > have the time to do all that, > -- > Keith M Wesolowski"Sir, we're surrounded!" > FishWorks "Excellent; we can attack in any > direction!" > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > openso

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Darren . Reed
Jim Walker wrote: Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary designations we give to people - contributor and community leader are amongst these. I'd like to propose that how "contributor" status is designated such that it is granted to anyone and everyone that is in a position to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On Jun 5, 2007, at 01:37, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:23:30PM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: So since the Desktop seemingly isn't relevant enough, I've gone and My personal feelings about relevance aren't worth a hill of beans. If the Desktop Group believes exploring t

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-04 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:23:30PM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > So since the Desktop seemingly isn't relevant enough, I've gone and My personal feelings about relevance aren't worth a hill of beans. If the Desktop Group believes exploring this work to be within its charter, it's free to do so.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Haynes
Jim Walker wrote: This would mean anyone who has signed the Sun Contributor Agreement or is an employee of a company that has (ie. Sun). I'm glad you brought this up. I'm working on establishing test resources on opensolaris.org (ie. self-service testing and test farm), and need a way to limit

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:38AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > >> So, can we just do it? I have powers to create a mail alias to start getting >> some plans discussed [1] - should I just go ahead and do it? Some web space >> would be nice, but not essential. >> >> Ho

[osol-discuss] Re: [sysadmin-discuss] Why we should have an OpenSolaris Hosted binary set. [OSH-thread]

2007-06-04 Thread John Martinez
On Jun 1, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Brian Gupta wrote: ... Various drivers behind an effort to produce OSH. 1) There is a desire for a minimal/core OpenSolaris distro, that other distro packagers can leverage to create their own distros. Building a distro from this core *may*, in the future, allow oth

[osol-discuss] Re: [approach-discuss] Re: [sfwnv-discuss] Why we should have an OpenSolaris Hosted binary set. [OSH-thread]

2007-06-04 Thread Brian Gupta
On 6/3/07, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian Gupta wrote: > Joseph, > > I have made an effort to incorporate your comments into a new list. > > Primary Drivers: > -- > 1) There is a desire for a minimal/core OpenSolaris distro, that other > distro packagers can

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-04 Thread Robert Lunnon
James Carlson wrote: John Mark Walker writes: Very good points. Thank you for taking the time to write that. Following is my best attempt at an answer: James Carlson wrote: It effectively shuts down the possibility of alternate distributions that focus on different needs and different

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-04 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:38AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > So, can we just do it? I have powers to create a mail alias to start getting > some plans discussed [1] - should I just go ahead and do it? Some web space > would be nice, but not essential. > > How do we get this moving forward? Fi

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread MC
Optional files should definitely be stored exclusively with optional files. But the question of multimedia codecs has already been answered, and the answer isn't the command line interface. The real answer is "include by default all the desirable codecs you can, and then make it easy to install

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Eric Boutilier wrote: > Me too. In fact for me it's the CRUX of the whole problem. > (Assuming this project still wants to be Sun-derived.) It's > THE single show-stopper. In other words, without it, then I'd > be happy to see the project go forward as-is. So, can we just do it? I have power

[osol-discuss] Re: Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Walker
> Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary > designations we give to people - contributor and community > leader are amongst these. > > I'd like to propose that how "contributor" status is designated > such that it is granted to anyone and everyone that is in a > position to do a p

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > 1. I think the way it is structured is perfect > (what > > else could be easier than simply executing a > one-line > > command?). > > "Not executing a one-line command" is far easier :) Of course theoretically someone can always negotiate a set of licenses to include, respectively, mplayer

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:03:40PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ultimately, I'd like to see it removed. > *Everyone* should be a contributor or able to be one. Everyone can. A Contributor is, not to be glib, someone who has contributed. Removing barriers to contribution is something we sho

Re: [osol-discuss] Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Darren . Reed
Alan Coopersmith wrote: [Added ogb-discuss, since that's where any real change has to happen - opensolaris-discuss will get you nothing useful.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary designations we give to people - contributor and community leade

Re: [osol-discuss] Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Darren . Reed
Alan Coopersmith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ultimately, I'd like to see it removed. *Everyone* should be a contributor or able to be one. Then you're basically redefining it to be the same as "Participant", which is anyone who filled out the registration form on opensolaris.org, includ

Re: [osol-discuss] Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ultimately, I'd like to see it removed. *Everyone* should be a contributor or able to be one. Then you're basically redefining it to be the same as "Participant", which is anyone who filled out the registration form on opensolaris.org, including those who did so just to

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread MC
> 1. I think the way it is structured is perfect (what > else could be easier than simply executing a one-line > command?). "Not executing a one-line command" is far easier :) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Actually all the actions other than mplayer codec > pack should be integrated in SX, I mean since there > is the technology and there isn't legal issue, asking > extra labor is not adopter friendly whatsoever. > > Cheers, > Ivan. > 1. I think the way it is structured is perfect (what else co

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread Shawn Walker
On 04/06/07, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually all the actions other than mplayer codec he did say ---^^ My point stands. Just about anything that requires a codec requires a patent license. -- "Less is only more where more is no go

Re: [osol-discuss] Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Darren . Reed
Joerg Schilling wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary designations we give to people - contributor and community leader are amongst these. I'd like to propose that how "contributor" status is designated such that it is granted to anyone an

Re: [osol-discuss] Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary > designations we give to people - contributor and community > leader are amongst these. > > I'd like to propose that how "contributor" status is designated > such that it is granted to anyone and everyone that is

Re: [osol-discuss] Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
[Added ogb-discuss, since that's where any real change has to happen - opensolaris-discuss will get you nothing useful.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary designations we give to people - contributor and community leader are amongst these. Contr

[osol-discuss] Changes to "Contributor" status

2007-06-04 Thread Darren . Reed
Within the OpenSolaris community, we have some arbitrary designations we give to people - contributor and community leader are amongst these. I'd like to propose that how "contributor" status is designated such that it is granted to anyone and everyone that is in a position to do a putback or com

[osol-discuss] Re: Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-04 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
>Good point. I > don't understand  why there are so many > people against > something new that can be potentially good for the > community, if they > think is not needed, they shouldn't contribute, > and that's all. I would > like to see more constructive approaches to this > issue. We have > anyth

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-04 Thread Bob Palowoda
> On 6/4/07, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Eric Boutilier wrote: > > > > >> Given how negative this community is on Linux... > > > > > > But when one looks literally *anywhere* else on > opensolaris.org besides > > > this > > > list one finds the complete opposite, namely, > flexib

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> > Actually all the actions other than mplayer codec he did say ---^^ - > > pack should be integrated in SX, I mean since there > > is the technology and there isn't legal issue, asking > > extra labor is not adopter friendly whatsoever. > > > > Cheers,

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-04 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:34:07PM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: That means that it was voted on at a meeting but must be off in a faq or minutes somewhere that each community member needs to track down. A draft of the policy plus a few changes was a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: isainfo on PPC

2007-06-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
> > > > Also, 64-bit SPARC and AMD are known to be > > > designated as "sparcv9" and "amd64". What will be the > > > formal designation of a 64-bit PPC CPU on Solaris? > > > > > > See above > > > > BTW, as a general question, is there a reliable way to detemine the > "mapping" between an ISA and

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: isainfo on PPC

2007-06-04 Thread Joerg Schilling
UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Also, 64-bit SPARC and AMD are known to be > > designated as "sparcv9" and "amd64". What will be the > > formal designation of a 64-bit PPC CPU on Solaris? > > > > See above > > BTW, as a general question, is there a reliable way to detemine the "mappin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread Shawn Walker
On 04/06/07, Ivan Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 6562225 NVIDIA performance on AGP systems can be > > terrible on b65 > > > > (Since the nvidia drivers are closed source, the > bug > > is not > > visible on bugs.opensolaris.org - you can tell if > > it affects you > > by checking dmesg/sysl

[osol-discuss] Start an indiana-discuss list now? (Was: Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro)

2007-06-04 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Ian Murdock wrote: +1. Can we have our list now? +1 from me for what it's worth. In other words getting that resource (a list) typically goes hand-in-hand with a project going from proposal status to community-approved status, but I'm pretty sure that's just protocol, not

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-04 Thread Ivan Wang
> > 6562225 NVIDIA performance on AGP systems can be > > terrible on b65 > > > > (Since the nvidia drivers are closed source, the > bug > > is not > > visible on bugs.opensolaris.org - you can tell if > > it affects you > > by checking dmesg/syslog for a nvidia driver error > > such as: > > vidi

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-04 Thread Ian Murdock
On 6/4/07, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: >> Given how negative this community is on Linux... > > But when one looks literally *anywhere* else on opensolaris.org besides > this > list one finds the complete opposite, namely, flexibility, diversity, > non-zealotry,

[osol-discuss] Plastic SCM on Solaris

2007-06-04 Thread UNIX admin
This just in: Plastic SCM is currently in unofficial testing phase on Solaris! See http://codicesoftware.blogspot.com/2007/03/plastic-running-on-solaris-10-sparc.html and http://codicesoftware.blogspot.com/2007/05/linus-torvalds-on-git-and-scm.html (search for "OpenSolaris"). For screenshots

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: isainfo on PPC

2007-06-04 Thread UNIX admin
> I am not sure what purpose you need this for, but in > some cases (path > in /usr/lib > for example) it is just > > 32 -> 64 > > which makes it quite simple and obvious without even > need to determine it > dynamically. That's exactly why I need it! I have built a foundation package for my own

[osol-discuss] Re: [approach-discuss] Re: [sfwnv-discuss] Why we should have an OpenSolaris Hosted binary set. [OSH-thread]

2007-06-04 Thread Giles Turner
> 4) Sun (Ian/Indiana/Others) wants a second Solaris distro that will be > the Fedora to Sun's RHEL (Solaris). They wish to do this and still leave > a clear migration path from one distro to another. (Unlike Fedora). Yes! I think we can all get behind this sort of vision. But making a better F

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-04 Thread Alan Burlison
Eric Boutilier wrote: Given how negative this community is on Linux... But when one looks literally *anywhere* else on opensolaris.org besides this list one finds the complete opposite, namely, flexibility, diversity, non-zealotry, and non-fear. And with that in mind, it's really, really key

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Problem with Driver Intel Chipset 945G

2007-06-04 Thread Ian Collins
Alberto wrote: > thanks but can i update my solaris eith build55 or i have to reinstall all ? > > You should be able to upgrade. Download the latest (build 65) and give it a go. Either way, a newer build would appear to be your only option. Ian ___