Re: [osol-discuss] Toshiba OpenSolaris laptops program is dropped?

2010-06-06 Thread Cyril Plisko
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Franklin Ronald wrote: > Yes, Oracle is killing OpenSolaris. If this is not the intention of Oracle, > this company don't know manage opensource projects. > Activity of others projects like VirtualBox, Java, NetBeans and GlassFish > continue normally, except OpenS

Re: [osol-discuss] Long files names - Opensolaris

2010-06-06 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Use correct style for naming? ;-) So small/big letters, numbers and underscore. Not that mess you have. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Toshiba OpenSolaris laptops program is dropped?

2010-06-06 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Says who? Do you think that everything on the Earth must be open source in terms of GPL? Then it's communism. Sources are here. You can start your own project or connect to any of existing. OpenSolaris has many great features which are very usable in production. So even if Oracle decide to stop

Re: [osol-discuss] downgrade/rollback ZFS pools version 16 to version 13

2010-06-06 Thread eXeC001er
copy all files from pool 16 to pool 13 or send>recv (not sure) 2010/6/7 mipam > I have it now: > > OpenSolaris Bible - Chapter 8 - ZFS > == > Generally, it’s a good idea to upgrade your pools and datasets to the most > current > version — otherwise, you may find some features

[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?

2010-06-06 Thread Andrew Greimann
New threads popped up while replying to another thread... However, compiling and putting Fluxbox on OpenSolaris then would be the viable option, since the licensing for GNOME cannot be changed. (I don't think I'd want to convince anyone to change GNOME either.) :) -- This message posted from op

[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?

2010-06-06 Thread Andrew Greimann
Thanks. This is what I envisioned would have been the answer to this question before even asked. I have used both GNOME and KDE--aware a community fuels it's popularity and license, and considering the fact GNOME is made not only for OpenSolaris, but for Linux and Unix-like systems as well, unde

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread MSim
Hi Similar possibilities (i.e. fork) have been discussed on this list lots of times. (Maybe even too much) Shortly said: You can't make a "OpenSolaris 2010.x Community Release" because of the trademarks on the name. - That's an issue every project that builds ON from source faces. Personally

Re: [osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?

2010-06-06 Thread Erik Trimble
Frankly, this is one of the biggest arguments in favor of assigning copyright to some single entity for all contributions to a project. It's what allows multi-licensing of an entire codebase. IHNSHO, anyone running a large OpenSource project should /always/ insist on copyright assignment. *Who

Re: [osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?

2010-06-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Andrew Greimann wrote: > Out of curiousity, is it possible to convert the GPL-licensed GNOME on > OpenSolaris to the CDDL or MIT licenses? You would have to get every person & corporation owning copyright in every GNOME module to agree to that, the odds of which are staggeringly high against you,

Re: [osol-discuss] Toshiba OpenSolaris laptops program is dropped?

2010-06-06 Thread Franklin Ronald
Yes, Oracle is killing OpenSolaris. If this is not the intention of Oracle, this company don't know manage opensource projects. Activity of others projects like VirtualBox, Java, NetBeans and GlassFish continue normally, except OpenSolaris. This is a fact. -- This message posted from opensolar

Re: [osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?

2010-06-06 Thread John Plocher
Changing a license is amazingly simple in theory, yet complex enough in practice to be nearly impossible: The owners of the current copyright simply need to decide to relicense or dual license their code under a new license. Unfortunately, the tens of thousands of people who have contributed to G

[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?

2010-06-06 Thread Andrew Greimann
Out of curiousity, is it possible to convert the GPL-licensed GNOME on OpenSolaris to the CDDL or MIT licenses? We are NOT talking of LGPL here. I'm well aware that any code or really 'software' deemed "compatible" with the GPL underneath another license "compatible" becomes GPL or at least, GPL

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread Franklin Ronald
Me and OpenYourSource.com community are willing. And you? OpenSolaris need an attitude, now! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] SUN not doing well under Oracle.

2010-06-06 Thread Octave Orgeron
Of course the question then becomes where does the image for this WPAR come from and is it customizable. As of yet, I haven't seen any AIX shops make use of this. Then again, if memory serves, IBM bought out a company that was selling the WPAR feature as an add-on product, so it's not really a n

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread Peter Jones
OpenSolaris 2010.02... 03... 04... 05... 06! Where is new OpenSolaris release? Any position? I founded together with Eduardo Kislanski the Brazilian portal OpenYourSource.com, dedicated for Solaris and OpenSolaris news, articles and tips. We are concerned with the OpenSolaris future. Any news?

Re: [osol-discuss] downgrade/rollback ZFS pools version 16 to version 13

2010-06-06 Thread mipam
I have it now: OpenSolaris Bible - Chapter 8 - ZFS == Generally, it’s a good idea to upgrade your pools and datasets to the most current version — otherwise, you may find some features to be unavailable; for example, hot spare devices weren’t introduced until pool version 3,

[osol-discuss] downgrade/rollback ZFS pools version 16 to version 13

2010-06-06 Thread mipam
Hi, Is there any options to move ZFS pools, version 16 to version 13? Thanks for comment! Jindra -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Toshiba OpenSolaris laptops program is dropped?

2010-06-06 Thread Hillel Lubman
I wouldn't call it killing. It's just making it less publicly open / newbie inviting. There are successful closed projects around there. May be Sun envisioned OpenSolaris as an open source project (did they?). Oracle seems not to. It has some agenda, and it follows it thoroughly. It's just not w

Re: [osol-discuss] Toshiba OpenSolaris laptops program is dropped?

2010-06-06 Thread Edward Martinez
> > > It looks like Oracle is not interested in OpenSolaris > advocacy anymore. The PR message is pretty clear (is > it intended?). canceling free OpenSolaris CDs, Opensolaris releases postponed, toshiba laptops appear canceled omg...systematically killing the project. -- This message post

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread Franklin Ronald
OpenSolaris is my favorite Operating System. Is consistent, well documented, stable and has a amazing management. Reject this project is a nonsense decision! Back to Linux is insane. Best buy Solaris 10 and install on my pc. ;-; -- This message posted from opensolaris.org __

[osol-discuss] Toshiba OpenSolaris laptops program is dropped?

2010-06-06 Thread Hillel Lubman
Did Oracle discontinue OpenSolaris laptops program with Toshiba? The Web page has no options now: http://www.opensolaris.com/toshibanotebook/ It looks like Oracle is not interested in OpenSolaris advocacy anymore. The PR message is pretty clear (is it intended?). -- This message posted from ope

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread Hillel Lubman
> Under new Oracle policy I suppose that you'll not get > info before it's officially out. > When ? can be tomorrow like never, It's a coin toss. I find it totally inappropriate for open source project to have such secrecy policies. But as Ben Rockwood pointed out - while OpenSolaris has open sou

Re: [osol-discuss] Is the IPS blocker bug holding up new opensolaris release

2010-06-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Edward Martinez wrote: > All except one of Bug 8314 - Blocker bug for OpenSolaris 2010.1H are > closed, the remaining open bug is Bug 9456 - IPS Blocker bug for > OpenSolaris 2010.1H. I was wondering if the IPS bug is what is stopping the > new stable release of OpenSolaris? > > https:

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread Edward Martinez
> Hi > > I have read Ben Rockwood's Blog post before your > answer and I understand and agree with what he says. > Until Oracle doesn't break silence, there's almost > nothing other than their silence on what we can judge > what OpenSolaris' future according to Oracle might > be, i.e. as DB Applia

[osol-discuss] Is the IPS blocker bug holding up new opensolaris release

2010-06-06 Thread Edward Martinez
All except one of Bug 8314 - Blocker bug for OpenSolaris 2010.1H are closed, the remaining open bug is Bug 9456 - IPS Blocker bug for OpenSolaris 2010.1H. I was wondering if the IPS bug is what is stopping the new stable release of OpenSolaris? https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bu

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread MSim
Hi I have read Ben Rockwood's Blog post before your answer and I understand and agree with what he says. Until Oracle doesn't break silence, there's almost nothing other than their silence on what we can judge what OpenSolaris' future according to Oracle might be, i.e. as DB Appliance or Storag

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread Edward Martinez
> OpenSolaris 2010.02... 03... 04... 05... 06! > > Where is new OpenSolaris release? Any position? > > I founded together with Eduardo Kislanski the > Brazilian portal OpenYourSource.com, dedicated for > Solaris and OpenSolaris news, articles and tips. > > We are concerned with the OpenSolaris f

Re: [osol-discuss] Long files names - Opensolaris

2010-06-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
It's up to the filesystem how long a name it will accept, and what other limitations it will put on names. The colon in the name may be a problem; I could create a file with that name on a flash drive once I took the colon out. Flash drives are usually pcfs (DOS FAT format), which may have differ

Re: [osol-discuss] SUN not doing well under Oracle.

2010-06-06 Thread Alexander
This description reminds of FreeBSD application jail... This thing would be useful in zones: the ability to say: don't install zone, just run this process in the following chroot environment with specified ip... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] SUN not doing well under Oracle.

2010-06-06 Thread bsd
This is taken from IBM to describe the differences: "The system WPAR is much closer to a complete version of AIX. The system WPAR has its own dedicated, completely writable filesystems along with its own inetd and cron. Application WPARs are real, lightweight versions of virtualized OS environ

[osol-discuss] Long files names - Opensolaris

2010-06-06 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Dear all, I was i the process of transferring some articles from my home directory into a separate directory in a flash drive. The file name of each drive is quite long, for instance, one of the files is "RFID benefits, costs, and possibilities: The economical analysis of RFID deployment in a

[osol-discuss] TCP tuning persist on reboot?

2010-06-06 Thread Erich Weiler
Greetings Y'all, I've been banging my head against a wall about this for a while and was wondering if any of you Solaris/OpenSolaris folks could lend a hand... I'm trying to set some TCP tuning kernel variables on an OpenSolaris 2009.06 box and am having trouble getting them to persist across r

Re: [osol-discuss] SUN not doing well under Oracle.

2010-06-06 Thread Lisandro Grullon
On 06/ 4/10 08:29 PM, bsd wrote: Today I had to listen to Red Hat drone on about what is forthcoming in RHEL6. Throughout I kept yawning and thinking, "I've done that in AIX since 2001" or "They're only now getting that?" Really, what is the draw to Linux? It reminds me of a Fisher-Price or

Re: [osol-discuss] Install Sendmail as a HUB on a Local Zone

2010-06-06 Thread Lisandro Grullon
On 06/ 4/10 09:54 AM, solarg wrote: On 06/ 4/10 03:03 PM, Ed Spyhill wrote: I have a project coming up to install Sendmail as a SMTP server for a software application that needs to send and receive emails. It will run on a Solaris Local Zone. I'm told I can install a completely separate Se

Re: [osol-discuss] SUN not doing well under Oracle.

2010-06-06 Thread Justin Lee Ewing
So is it actually creating a partition? I mean, even a partition there are files to be copied over, etc... which takes time. Or is it more like an on demand chroot environment? that could be easily, and quickly, setup and broke down? On 06/ 5/10 09:50 PM, bsd wrote: Yes, the application zone

[osol-discuss] Complaints on IPS?

2010-06-06 Thread Orvar Korvar
It seems that there are a lot of complaints on IPS. Part of the complaints could be because people are not seeing how IPS is meant to be used. Maybe som IPS engineer could blog about how to do old stuff via IPS? Then people maybe would see the point of using IPS? Like 1) Problem: want to upgrad

Re: [osol-discuss] Upgrade to snv_134 dev branch errors

2010-06-06 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Does anybody know - Will the online upgrade process be more reliable in the future versions? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread MSim
I agree, it's sad that there has been no sign of life besides that newer source code has been made available. On the other hand as it looks, Oracles' procedure is by going through review process one Sun project / product after another to check if it's worth to continue. - And if so, in what dire

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-06-06 Thread Mirko
Under new Oracle policy I suppose that you'll not get info before it's officially out. When ? can be tomorrow like never, It's a coin toss. really I can't find any reason, any, about this long silence about an open source OS, this is the best away to loose customers. A Little teaser on Homepage

Re: [osol-discuss] Zones with other virtualization techs on the same host

2010-06-06 Thread Erik Trimble
On 6/5/2010 9:29 PM, Bruno Damour wrote: Le 06/06/10 01:50, Brandon High a écrit : Is it possible to use zones and xen or virtual box simultaneously on the same host? Sent from my Nexus One. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discus