Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-19 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 01:24:14PM -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: > > I have to admit to knowing almost nothing about Ret Hat Inc's position > > (in theory or practice) on POSIX. > i think its about the same as most other linux places: > > "We'll follow POSI

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-19 Thread Philip Brown
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 01:24:14PM -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: > > I have to admit to knowing almost nothing about Ret Hat Inc's position > (in theory or practice) on POSIX. i think its about the same as most other linux places: "We'll follow POSIX as much as possible... or until we dont feel l

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-16 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, James Dickens wrote: > > > right now, we can start with the basics when you grab a package from outside > of the solaris community, be it bsd or gnu or where ever, and want add it to > a distro, the first step is to make it build... +1. But... (sorry to be a broken record) we

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The difference between Linux and Solaris is that Solaris has been > > > > certified > > > > for being SUSv3

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Chris Ricker
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Eric Boutilier wrote: > And I still think calling POSIX "a key UNIX/Linux industry standard" is > a very good reflection of reality. > > > I actually fail to see a Linux industry standard in POSIX; > > Well at a minimum, it's certainly key to much of the development of >

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The difference between Linux and Solaris is that Solaris has been > > > certified > > > for being SUSv3 compliant. > > Solaris, not OpenSolaris. This is an Op

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Gunnar Ritter wrote: > Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I actually fail to see a Linux industry standard in POSIX; > > Well at a minimum, it's certainly key to much of the development of > > POSIX-like Linux distro standards and other Linux standards such a

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The difference between Linux and Solaris is that Solaris has been certified > > for being SUSv3 compliant. > > Solaris, not OpenSolaris. This is an OpenSolaris list, Jörg. So you believe that we should not

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The difference between Linux and Solaris is that Solaris has been certified > for being SUSv3 compliant. Solaris, not OpenSolaris. This is an OpenSolaris list, Jörg. Gunnar ___ opensolaris-discuss ma

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I actually fail to see a Linux industry standard in POSIX; > > Well at a minimum, it's certainly key to much of the development of > > POSIX-like Linux distro standards and other Linux standards such a

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/15/05, Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, and since "a deliberate Linus decision" can override a POSIX > requirement in that process > , I > continue to call POSIX a recommendation rather than an industry > standard in thi

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I actually fail to see a Linux industry standard in POSIX; > Well at a minimum, it's certainly key to much of the development of > POSIX-like Linux distro standards and other Linux standards such as > those coming from LSB and OSDL. When Linux di

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Gunnar Ritter wrote: > > > This amounts to "a recommendation which many have followed". > > > > > Sure, but my point is that standards like POSIX are more important than > > even that wording conveys. > > It cannot have been exceedingly important to the people who wrote the > c

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I don't see any problems with using wordings that are used the same way > while discussing POSIX ducuments on the POSIX mailing list. First, this is not the POSIX list, and you were not discussing POSIX documents but code which does not claim any

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Gunnar Ritter wrote: > > Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Calling POSIX a "law" and calling it a "recommendation" are extreme > > > ends of the spectum is you ask me. How about meeting in the middle and > > > calling i

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Gunnar Ritter wrote: > > Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Calling POSIX a "law" and calling it a "recommendation" are extreme > > > ends of the spectum is you ask me. How about meeting in the middle and > > > calli

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Gunnar Ritter wrote: > Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Calling POSIX a "law" and calling it a "recommendation" are extreme > > ends of the spectum is you ask me. How about meeting in the middle and > > calling it a key UNIX/Linux industry standard? > > This amou

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calling POSIX a "law" and calling it a "recommendation" are extreme > ends of the spectum is you ask me. How about meeting in the middle and > calling it a key UNIX/Linux industry standard? This amounts to "a recommendation which many have followed". T

Re: [blastware-discuss] [osol-discuss] Re: Can Solaris/OpenSolaris do what Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Gunnar Ritter wrote: > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 12:29, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > Smake warns about all illegal Makefile content. If you dowmload the > > > > latest > > > > >