[Openstack-poc] GitHub migration cost (was: Meeting tomorrow)

2011-06-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Monty Taylor wrote: > My concern is that if we move forward using the suggested workarounds, > we will be losing functionality/state information that we currently > have. While this is not functionality that is important to the > developers who have thusfar expressed an opinion - and I do appreciat

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-07 Thread John Purrier
=openstack@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-poc-bounces+john=openstack@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Soren Hansen Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:42 AM To: Chuck Thier Cc: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack-poc] github 2011/6/7 Chuck Thier : > It saddens me that this is w

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-07 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/6/7 Chuck Thier : > It saddens me that this is what OpenStack is becoming. Me too. > There is no reason that the swift team couldn't right now just fork to > github, and leave the pieces for you to figure out. Except we're supposed to be part of the same project. This implies *some* amount

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
Chuck Thier wrote: > It saddens me that this is what OpenStack is becoming. There is no > reason that the swift team couldn't right now just fork to github, and > leave the pieces for you to figure out. Instead, they are trying to do > the right thing, work within the system and get things done i

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-07 Thread Chuck Thier
It saddens me that this is what OpenStack is becoming. There is no reason that the swift team couldn't right now just fork to github, and leave the pieces for you to figure out. Instead, they are trying to do the right thing, work within the system and get things done in a way that will work for

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
John Dickinson wrote: > I really don't think the PPB should vote to allow a project to manage its > code in a different was. That decision should be made by the project's > respective devs and its PTL. > [...] I think it boils down to "what does it mean to be an OpenStack core project". On one

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-07 Thread John Dickinson
On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:31 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Like Eric said, in order to make sure we're not changing only for a > vocal minority, the PPB needs to vote. We don't want to set a precedent > for vocal proponents of the next cool thing to force us to change again > in 6 months. > ...snip.

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ewan Mellor wrote: > So by the sounds of it, definitely not for Diablo? That means September at > the earliest. That's fine by me -- I just need to know one way or another. I wouldn't say that... We can certainly change between milestones, as long as it's before diablo-3 (end of July). I'd like

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
John Dickinson wrote: > On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> The idea is to come up with a clear cost/benefit analysis and present it >> to the PPB which will estimate if the benefit outweighs the cost for the >> project. >> >> We already know from the design summit that developers

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-06 Thread Joshua McKenty
+1 to John's recollection - I believe this was also how we were going to look at proposed/incubated projects. As long as the integration required with packaging/CI is present (or the project members will own responsibility for the gap), I think we should let projects do what they will. Joshua M

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-06 Thread John Dickinson
On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Eric Day wrote: >> Yup, sounds accurate. Still waiting on the integration bits, and >> once things are functional and features/drawbacks were documented, >> make a final call. There were also talks of doing a larger community >> vote (like PPB/PT

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-06 Thread Ewan Mellor
unces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Thierry Carrez Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:17 PM To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack-poc] github Eric Day wrote: > Yup, sounds accurate. Still waiting on the integration bits, and > once things are

Re: [Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-06 Thread Thierry Carrez
Eric Day wrote: > Yup, sounds accurate. Still waiting on the integration bits, and > once things are functional and features/drawbacks were documented, > make a final call. There were also talks of doing a larger community > vote (like PPB/PTL votes) to make sure we're not changing only for > a voc

[Openstack-poc] github

2011-06-06 Thread Ewan Mellor
How and when are we going to make a final decision about github vs Launchpad? (I'm assuming that people are still thinking about a switch.) The reason I ask is I have a dozen people joining my team soon, and so I need to update my training material, and I don't want to do it all for bzr/Launchp