Hello again folks of the list, I'm sure this must have been asked before although my searches on Deja and looking on both orionsupport.com and orionserver.com have come up pretty much empty. orionsupport.com has some documentation on the subject but I can't get the cocoon examples to run without getting an exception right at the start. I am very new to this subject matter and would appreciate any direction that can be given in this area. Thanks very much in advance for any help that can be provided. -- Holden Glova, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer Alchemy Group Limited Level 6 Royal Sun Alliance Bldg PO Box 2386 Christchurch New Zealand Phone: +64 3 962-0396 Fax: +64 3 962-0388