On Mar 12, 2012, at 13:00, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> Le 2012-03-06 à 21:04:00, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit :
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>> I agree, except I don't want to push this notion to the point where
>> unpredictable nature of tcl/tk's canvas implementation entirely hampers or
>> limits tool's productivity and p
Le 2012-03-06 à 21:04:00, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit :
I agree, except I don't want to push this notion to the point where
unpredictable nature of tcl/tk's canvas implementation entirely hampers
or limits tool's productivity and provides a half-baked feature.
I found Tk to be quite predictable.
Le 2012-03-10 à 11:13:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
I don't know, I think that canvas space is somewhat more touchy to
manage in pd than in firefox, and I would think that it's not that much
about full-width... the full-height seems at least as important... and
the fact that pd patches always
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> From: Jonathan Wilkes
> To: Mathieu Bouchard
> Cc: pd-list List
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43
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>> From: Mathieu Bouchard
&g
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> From: Mathieu Bouchard
> To: Jonathan Wilkes
> Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner ; pd-list List
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43
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> Le 2012-03-06 à 15:38:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
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Le 2012-03-06 à 15:38:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
Status bar would be like an extra widget (label I guess) running the
full width of the window that is below the canvas, so it won't overlap
the canvas but wouldn't leave after the tip goes away.
How do I say that... Make sure that you don't
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> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner
> To: Ivica Ico Bukvic
> Cc: 'Jonathan Wilkes' ; 'pd-list List'
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43
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> On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:04
> Even better, off load this to a GUI plugin, then people can choose the
> method that works best for them. But I still like Jonathan's original
> implementation the best.
While there may be "better," neither of them will be best when one relies on
the Tcl/tk's implementation that delivers incon
On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>> I think that we should be pushing GUI stuff to the Tcl side of things as
>> much as possible, plus I prefer the current tooltip display down on the
>> lower right. I find that popups right next to the mouse are often annoying.
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> I agree,
> I think that we should be pushing GUI stuff to the Tcl side of things as
> much as possible, plus I prefer the current tooltip display down on the
> lower right. I find that popups right next to the mouse are often annoying.
I agree, except I don't want to push this notion to the point where
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> Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43
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> Le 2012-03-06 à 14:40:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
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>> There are actually three possibilities-- balloon, statusbar, and window
> item at the bottom of
Le 2012-03-06 à 14:40:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
There are actually three possibilities-- balloon, statusbar, and window item at
the bottom of the patch (which is the current pd-extended implementation).
I don't know what's the difference between the last two...
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> From: Mathieu Bouchard
> To: Jonathan Wilkes
> Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner ; pd-list List
> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43
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> Le 2012-03-06 à 14:11:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
Le 2012-03-06 à 14:11:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
I do, too, but every GUI toolkit and its brother hovers them to the side
of the current mouse location.
A function for setting the current tooltip of a certain window could look
into user settings to figure out automatically whether a certai
as if i remember Max in the olden days the inlet and outlet descriptors for
objects were listed in the left bottom corner of the window. possible to
give a choice for either way or is that too much coding overhead?
scott
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner
> To: Jonathan Wilkes
> Cc: pd-list List
> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:05 PM
> Subject: Re: tooltips in pd-extended 0.43
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>
> I think that we should be pushing GUI stuff to the Tcl side of things as
> much as possible, plus I
I think that we should be pushing GUI stuff to the Tcl side of things as
much as possible, plus I prefer the current tooltip display down on the
lower right. I find that popups right next to the mouse are often annoying.
.hc
On 03/06/2012 02:54 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> - Original Messag
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> From: Jonathan Wilkes
> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:53 PM
> Subject: tooltips in pd-extended 0.43
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> Hello,
> Hans asked me to write up an explanation of the new tooltips in
> pd-extended
> 0.43.
> Attached are som
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> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner
> To: Jonathan Wilkes
> Cc: Max ; pd list ; Ben
> Baker-Smith
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Tooltips in Pd-extended 0.43 WAS: no pd?? WTF
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> Fixing <> is probably a bigger thing than I can m
On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner
>> To: Jonathan Wilkes
>> Cc: Max ; pd list ; Ben
>> Baker-Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tooltips in Pd-extended 0.43 WAS: no pd?? WTF ??
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> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner
> To: Jonathan Wilkes
> Cc: Max ; pd list ; Ben
> Baker-Smith
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Tooltips in Pd-extended 0.43 WAS: no pd?? WTF
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> On Jan 12, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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On Jan 12, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner
>> To: Jonathan Wilkes
>> Cc: Max ; pd list ; Ben
>> Baker-Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:50 PM
>> Subject: Tooltips in Pd-extended 0.43 WAS: no pd?? WTF
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> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner
> To: Jonathan Wilkes
> Cc: Max ; pd list ; Ben
> Baker-Smith
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:50 PM
> Subject: Tooltips in Pd-extended 0.43 WAS: no pd?? WTF
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> On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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>> From: Max
>> To: Jonathan Wilkes
>> Cc: Richie Cyngler ; pd list ; Ben
>> Baker-Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF
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>> And that's not the end of the v
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