On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> One interesting thing, the new sensor in the GH1 is similar to the
>> LX3's, it's only 4/3rds format when in 4:3 mode, the sensor is larger
>> and maintains AoV and MP count when switchin
On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
One interesting thing, the new sensor in the GH1 is similar to the
LX3's, it's only 4/3rds format when in 4:3 mode, the sensor is larger
and maintains AoV and MP count when switching between aspect ratios,
unlike the G1's sensor which is 10MP in 3:2
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Now all I need is a business reason to do HD video clips. And some money.
I'd be happy to have a business that made me money.:-)
Dave
> ];-)
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
>
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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> For those interested,
> ---
> Micro-FourThirds product news from Panasonic... the expected HD addition to
> the G1, two new lenses.
>
> Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH1 with HD video recording
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09030315panasoniclum
For those interested,
---
Micro-FourThirds product news from Panasonic... the expected HD
addition to the G1, two new lenses.
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH1 with HD video recording
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09030315panasoniclumixdmcgh1.asp
Panasonic Lumix G 7-14mm f/4 ASPH lens:
http://www.d
> This is just asking for a wise ass answer. But I'll leave that to someone
> else,
> (for a change).
>
> At 07:33 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >"How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?"
> >
> >Since it takes K-mount lenses, I say, "Star-Kist."
Sorry,
Charlie.
This is just asking for a wise ass answer. But I'll leave that to someone
else,
(for a change).
At 07:33 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>"How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?"
>
>Since it takes K-mount lenses, I say, "Star-Kist."
SORRY CHARLIE !
BUTCH
Each man had only one genuine voca
This is just asking for a wise ass answer. But I'll leave that to someone
else,
(for a change).
At 07:33 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
"How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?"
Since it takes K-mount lenses, I say, "Star-Kist."
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a d
The * is silent.
At 02:05 PM 2/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR
> *ist. Nothing for us...
How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?
Then, can I use my A* lenses on it?"A-star-ist"?
Fred
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best fr
>> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest"
>> SLR *ist. Nothing for us...
> How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?
> Then, can I use my A* lenses on it?"A-star-ist"?
Wow - talk about a slow message. When I was reading this, I didn't
even recognize at first that
> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR
> *ist. Nothing for us...
How is this to be pronounced? "Star-ist"?
Then, can I use my A* lenses on it?"A-star-ist"?
Fred
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PMA News: Pentax ist, new Lenses and Optio 450 and 550
> gist, jist, kist, list, mist, pist...I think I like that one ;-)
The last one actually sounds pretty much like pissed:))
Regards
Artur
Since " * " is a wildcard, the possibilities are almost endlessfist,
gist, jist, kist, list, mist, pist...I think I like that one ;-)
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 12:32 pm, John Mustarde wrote:
> I was wondering about the funny name of the new *ist camera.
>
> Now I get it - it's short for
>I was wondering about the funny name of the new *ist camera.
>
>Now I get it - it's short for Pentax Discuss Mailing *ist.
>
>So for me, the *ist camera is officially pronounced "List".
Either that or the designer was Pist.
Cotty
Oh, swipe me! He paints
I was wondering about the funny name of the new *ist camera.
Now I get it - it's short for Pentax Discuss Mailing *ist.
So for me, the *ist camera is officially pronounced "List".
--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com
> I used to
>read the 1953 Dodge, and then 1965 Plymouth service manuals that my
>father kept under his seat in the car.
>
>BR
This explains a lot.
Cotty
PS :-)
Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
Pål wrote:
"They do that for all their equipment. You can get
pro rabates on an MZ-5n. "
I've never heard that before. Does this work like the
Nikon pro service? For example, if you can prove
you're a "pro" photographer, Nikon will loan you
equipment (e.g. like a 600mm f4) for short-term
use/even
Pål wrote:
"Personally, I don't think Pentax will ever make a
"pro" camera, medium
format or not (some don't consider pentax MF pro
because they lack
interchangeable film magazines). All Pentax medium
format cameras has been
quite faithful faximile of 35mm cameras, yes - even
amateur ones.
Pen
Bruce wrote:
> It is amazing how the list continues to wish/hope for a pro-level slr
> when Pentax has not made one since the LX.
Not so amazing as long as Pentax engineers and bosses insist on it.
>Pentax has been quite clear that
> their pro market is medium format.
When? Where? If you go
Like I said, no production 350 Hemi. GM didn't make "Hemi's". I used to
read the 1953 Dodge, and then 1965 Plymouth service manuals that my
father kept under his seat in the car.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
345 and 360 HEMIs were available in Australia in dodge and chrysler
variants until the
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Mike Johnston wrote:
> And when you replace the asterisk with a "D," you get what the *ist is gonna
> be on this list.
If it doesn't work with K, M and M42 adapter lenses, you'll want to use
hte letter P to describe the feeligns 'round here.
(at least they didn't call it Kis
345 and 360 HEMIs were available in Australia in dodge and chrysler
variants until the ealry 1980's Bruce. The 'famous' 350 was a GM motor
from the corvette AFAIK. They are still using the GEN 111 350 motor in
'muscle cars' from Holden (GM)in Oz now.
Cheers
Shaun
Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
I don
Mike,
It is amazing how the list continues to wish/hope for a pro-level slr
when Pentax has not made one since the LX. Even the MZ-S was not
fully embraced by the list members. Pentax has been quite clear that
their pro market is medium format.
Seems to me that this is exactly the type of camer
> LOL. But the name sucks indeed. We all know that the asterisk is a
> placeholder. If you replace it with a "M", the you have the German word
> for dung or trash... =:-]
Heiko,
And when you replace the asterisk with a "D," you get what the *ist is gonna
be on this list.
--Mike
Quoth Wendy:
> And it ~is~ a stupid name. Still not as stupid as Kiss, Sweet and Rebel
> though. No way would I ever buy a camera with those names!
If a really spiffy camera with an uber-dorky name fell into my
hands, I'd certainly use it ... and make fun of the name the
whole time. I've got no
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I don't mind it, oddly. The name however sucks worse than a Hoover with a
>350 hemi undert the hood. (With apologies to Wendy Beard and Tim Allen)
>
Apology accepted. I don't have a clue what a 350 hemi is anyway. Under 't
hood or otherwise ;-)
And it ~is~ a stupid nam
>I don't think that there ever was a production 350 Hemi. 426, 413 were
>the famous ones. There were even some hemi head V8s from the early 50's
>in the sub 300ci range.
>
>BR
Thanks Brucey-baby. I was just trying (and failing) to get into the US
car-lingo. Actually I have built a Rover V8 (213
This might only be the designation in Japan. Many camera companies seem
to give cute names to cameras for the home market and then give it an
alpha-numeric model designation for the rest of the world.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL. But the name sucks indeed. We all know that the asterisk is
Hi Cotty,
on 18 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
>Heiko, I'll bet it look spretty neat in black ;-)
OK, I'll order a piece of *ist, two FAJ-lenses and a can of black
paint...:-)
>I don't mind it, oddly. The name however sucks worse than a Hoover with a
>350 hemi undert the hood.
LOL. But the
I don't think that there ever was a production 350 Hemi. 426, 413 were
the famous ones. There were even some hemi head V8s from the early 50's
in the sub 300ci range.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't mind it, oddly. The name however sucks worse than a Hoover with a
350 hemi undert the hood
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote:
> Nothing for us? Although I'm dissapointed by it's look as have heard
> it was very stylish. I think it is ugly. Anyway, it is very feature
I won't go ugly, but it looks sort of like it wants to be a Canon camera
with teh big wheel thingy on the
First look at 550
http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/Optio55
0_uk.html
on 18.02.03 16:39, Rob Brigham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Interesting - the film chamber is on the right!?!?
Maybe *ist pull out all of the film then frame after frame rewind in the
cartridge?
>
> It seems to have the same type of on/off switch as MZ-S (perhaps DOF
> too?), no self timer but
It takes A-series lenses.
Dario Bonazza
> Doesn't say if it will take the SMCP(K), M,or A series lenses. (I'd bet
> on A but who knows).
Interesting - the film chamber is on the right!?!?
It seems to have the same type of on/off switch as MZ-S (perhaps DOF
too?), no self timer but a remote control option, a top wheel which has
no markings (presumably for shutter and/or aperture) and some sort of
button just in front of it (to shift
Hi Pål,
on 18 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
>> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR
>> *ist. Nothing for us...
>Nothing for us?
Yes, because:
>I think it is ugly.
I second that;-)
But you're right - the features are very interesting. We will have to
see, h
on 18.02.03 16:25, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Nothing for us? Although I'm dissapointed by it's look as have heard it was
> very stylish. I think it is ugly. Anyway, it is very feature laden, almost
> completely featured, with 11 point AF and cross sensors and 16 zone metering.
It s
> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR
> *ist. Nothing for us...
Well, I, for one, think 11-point AF and 16-segment metering are at least
worth mentioning. I also kinda like the shape of the camera, though I'd like
to look at the top plate first.
Regards,
Lukasz
==
Doesn't say if it will take the SMCP(K), M,or A series lenses. (I'd bet
on A but who knows).
At 04:15 PM 2/18/2003 +0100, you wrote:
on 18.02.03 16:04, Heiko Hamann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Here we go: www.dpreview.com
>
> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SL
Heiko wrote:
> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR
> *ist. Nothing for us...
Nothing for us? Although I'm dissapointed by it's look as have heard it was very
stylish. I think it is ugly. Anyway, it is very feature laden, almost completely
featured, with 11 poi
on 18.02.03 16:04, Heiko Hamann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Here we go: www.dpreview.com
>
> They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR
> *ist. Nothing for us...
*ist - interesting - "Sophisticated 11-point autofocus system with
cross-shaped AF point selector and LED v
Hi Heiko,
on 18 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
>Here we go: www.dpreview.com
>They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR
>*ist. Nothing for us...
But it has some very nice features:
-
1. Ultra-compac
Here we go: www.dpreview.com
They have released those FAJ lenses and the "world's smallest" SLR
*ist. Nothing for us...
Also some new Optio modells. But I will have to read that first...;-)
Regards, Heiko
> Anyway, she got to talking about why she was renting the Pentax. Seems
> her less than a year old mamiya 645 (the beginner model, I think), was
> in the shop for the third time. God, she was pissed!
Tom,
A maker of carriage-trade view cameras, who shall go unnamed, once told me
that his principa
> Think Bronica GS-1 with a revolving back.
> Or a Mamiya RB with good lenses and mechanical reliability.
I don't see either of those as being any smaller than the current 6x7.
--Mike
third time. God, she was pissed!
She really liked the Pentax too.
tv
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great LX
>
ED]
> Subject: Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great LX
> news!))
>
>
> I'm sorry but I have a hard time imagining entirely
> mythical devices, warp
> drive is much easier.
>
> At 03:00 PM 2/17/2003 -0600, William Robb wrote:
>
>
> &
> -Original Message-
> From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> William wrote:
>
> > Think Bronica GS-1 with a revolving back.
> > Or a Mamiya RB with good lenses and mechanical reliability.
>
> But they are not compact. The fact that the new 67 is more
> compact than the current one
Something like that would be a beast, like a GS-1.
And, they'd lose their flattest-film-plane advantage
that helps keep the 67 on top.
Personally, I'd like to see a 67 with a coupled rangefinder
on top, electronically linked to a focus sensor.
Lighter and more versatile.
Imagine, all the advantage
- Original Message -
From: "Pål Jensen"
Subject: Re: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great LX news!))
>
> But they are not compact. The fact that the new 67 is more compact than
the current one is the only feature leaked out so far.
That will be some fea
I'm sorry but I have a hard time imagining entirely mythical devices, warp
drive is much easier.
At 03:00 PM 2/17/2003 -0600, William Robb wrote:
Or a Mamiya RB with good lenses and mechanical reliability.
William Robb
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it'
William wrote:
> Think Bronica GS-1 with a revolving back.
> Or a Mamiya RB with good lenses and mechanical reliability.
But they are not compact. The fact that the new 67 is more compact than the current
one is the only feature leaked out so far.
Pål
- Original Message -
From: "Pål Jensen"
Subject: New 67 (WAS: Re: PMA News (WAS: Re: Great LX news!))
> William wrote:
>
> > I would welcome a 6x7 that was shaped more like the 645.
>
> Very unlikely as the 645 shape is defined by the "weird&quo
William wrote:
> I would welcome a 6x7 that was shaped more like the 645.
Very unlikely as the 645 shape is defined by the "weird" film travel. A 67, at least
without interchangeable backs, will have shape dictated by the film chamber something
that mean a camera close to the shape of the curre
On Monday 17 February 2003 12:30, Pål Jensen wrote:
> surprises revealed the day the show start (when is that?).
2 March - 5 March 2003
--
Frits Wüthrich
Pentaxianado
>Sorry, it was a sick joke.
>Steve Larson
>Redondo Beach, California
No, I got mine yesterday. Really!
Cotty
Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
http://www
http://pma2003.pmai.org/
12 days, 21 hours to go!
> -Original Message-
> From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Most likely we will get the "boring" news before the show.
> Pentax have a tradition of surprise so I would expect the
> more interesting news to be surprises revea
Mike wrote:
> And just since I'm feeling so good, I'll tell you all that the embargo date
> for the new Pentax products at PMA is THIS TUESDAY. So we should be getting
> hard news about all the new digital p/s cameras and the new "ist" film SLR
> on Tuesday. (DSLR news will have to wait for PMA pr
What site should we hit for this info?
TIA,
Collin
Pentax UK - excellent.
A few years ago - alright, quite some time ago, a good friend of mine sent
his 200mm F2.5M in to Pentax UK for some adjustment or other. Couple of weeks
later - gets grovelling letter from Pentax about the fact that they had had a
fire in the service department and would
Just thought I'd add a very positive note on Pentax Service in the UK -
bearing in mind that their service location is the edge of Slough (you have
to have been there), I wasn't necessarily expecting great things. My MZ-S
'died' a couple of weeks ago with the shutter sticking open and an "Err"
me
>I've noticed that a lot of SLR shooters I meet up with use MZ cameras,
>MZ-30 and such, I think. To such an extent, that I sometimes wondered why
>PDMLers keep moaning that the rest of the world is all Canon and Nikon.
Perhaps to most diehard fans (I don't mean Pentax or any specific fans),
the
Milford CT. About 100 miles east of NYC. The manager is knowledgeable
about Pentax,
while he is currently a Canon shooter has a couple of LX's he admits to owning.
His old rep. used to try to get him things but they took forever, or never
arrived.
At 02:18 PM 2/22/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On 2
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Butch Black
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:10 PM
> To: Pentax discussion group
> Subject: RE: PMA News
>
>
> For those that are interested Digital Photography Review;
> www.dpreview.com has some info on the Nikon D-100. Of most
On 22 Feb 2002 at 9:27, Mark Roberts wrote:
> "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >On 22 Feb 2002 at 20:09, Butch Black wrote:
> >
> >> For those that are interested Digital Photography Review;
> >> www.dpreview.com has some info on the Nikon D-100. Of most interest
> >> is their listing it as
"tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 22 Feb 2002 at 20:09, Butch Black wrote:
>
>> For those that are interested Digital Photography Review;
>> www.dpreview.com has some info on the Nikon D-100. Of most interest is
>> their listing it as a prosumer model with competitive pricing, but no
>> list p
>True, but lets not forget that Canon managed this. They used 20 years to
>break into the pro market. Back when they started out with pro pretensions
>they sold significantly fewer cameras than Pentax. There's no doubt that
>Canon had a long term market strategy and now benefit more than anyone el
Again as Pals email its a lack of commitment
Pentax show commitment to the K-mount; at least regarding compatibility.
But they do lack commitment and long term strategy for their products and
customers. Regardless of what Nikon and Canon are doing they keep their
customers happy by replacing t
gt; Sent: 21 February 2002 09:53
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: PMA News
> >
> >
> > Nothing much Pentax :-(
> >
> > A Nikon D100 6mp digital slr. - Where is Pentax?
> >
> > Nikon AF-S 70-200/2.8 VR (image stabilization)
> >
> > Pen
Pentax in the USA doesn't seem to offer service to anyone. I stopped in at
the
a local camera store that used to have at least three ZX models on display and
found none. No ZX-5n no ZX-M not even a ZX-30. Seems that their Pentax rep.
has retired and hasn't been replaced. I asked if there was
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 01:54:12PM +0100, P?l Audun Jensen wrote:
> Jow wrote:
>
> >>They have captured the amature market through
> >>the mz series like no other company has.
>
> But that's in Australia (and reportedly South Africa).
I can confirm about the MZ series in South Africa. For The p
Welp!!
On that note I think I'll save my money. :)
What about the Canon D60 ?
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:52 AM
Subject: RE: PMA News
> The new Nikon 6MP digital S
From: Pål Audun Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pentax and support (WAS: PMA News)
Bill wrote:
>My guess would be that Pentax can't/won't go to the expense of furnishing
>cameras, lenses, and support a
The new Nikon 6MP digital SLR, the D100 could sell for as little as
£1500 according to sources!
> -Original Message-
> From: Pål Audun Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 21 February 2002 09:53
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PMA News
>
>
> Nothing much
Maybe Pentax want to leave the market for Nikon F5s to Nikon? Pentax's
main market is P&S cameras and low end SLRs which can use all the lenses.
Their SLR customers are generally enthusiasts who appreciate a well made
camera and not 'professionals' (i.e. sports and photojournalist types).
Wha
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> a faster fps
> fully sealed body
> perhaps a faster film rewinder
Sounds like an F5.
> This can be a 12 month task that can involve a team of 3
> An electronics engineer, designer amd moulder/assembler
Are you a camera engineer?
> I am not askin
I totally disagree with your thoughts.
The only improvements needed are 3
a faster fps
fully sealed body
perhaps a faster film rewinder
This can be a 12 month task that can involve a team of 3
An electronics engineer, designer amd moulder/assembler
I am not asking for a complete new body just
Bill wrote:
>My guess would be that Pentax can't/won't go to the expense of furnishing
>cameras, lenses, and support a la Nikon and Canon. They seem to be
>perfectly happy with their niche among knowledgeable and discriminating
>people like us :-)
This is indeed true - they don't offer servic
Jomac wrote:
>The time and financial investment required by Pentax to "target" the "pro"
>market would be impossible to accomplish and still hope to increase their
>net profit. Including the increase in low end gear purchases by association.
True, but lets not forget that Canon managed this. T
Well, I think Pentax needs to target the connoiseur with a nice
titanium body, autofocus, film SLR that will match beautifully
with limited lenses. If they followed up with a matching
digital SLR of at least 4MP and similar features to the Canon
D30, I'd buy both of them! I'm really hooked on ti
> "William Robb" wrote:
> >Pentax is not interested in the "pro" 35mm market. They never
> >have been. They never will be.
>
> Too true. Also a major pity too. All those students starting out on 35mm
> Pentax gear who must later be switching to other brands to go
professional.
> They must see so
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PMA News
> Pal I totally agree.
>
> Pentex have lost the respect from the pro end market including
those that sell it. Come
> to melbourne and try buying decent Pentax gear and be prepared
to have ur feel
Pal I totally agree.
Pentex have lost the respect from the pro end market including those that sell it.
Come
to melbourne and try buying decent Pentax gear and be prepared to have ur feelings
hurt and be prepared to be snubbed. They have captured the amature market through
the mz series like
Nothing much Pentax :-(
A Nikon D100 6mp digital slr. - Where is Pentax?
Nikon AF-S 70-200/2.8 VR (image stabilization)
Pentax MZ-60 (who actually needs this?)
Pål
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Thursday, February 07, 2002, 3:17:40 PM, Mark wrote:
MR> Len wrote:
>>Yeah! We demand guaranteed, rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!
MR> Uh-oh, sounds like we might have a general philisopher's strike on out hands!
MR> (42)
Now, just what was the damn question?
Good light,
Not only the "what" is important, but the "who". The "firmness" of a rumor
can be judged by the reliability of the source. Macintosh fans play this
game with Apple every quarter. Sometimes the rumors are started by someone
with an active imagination but are completely baseless, and other times
som
JCO wrote:
>What the hell is a "firm rumor"? Thats
>an oxymoron.
A firm rumor is a rumor that says that this and that will be shown at PMA.
When I say that Pentax may show the 33-55 and 55-110 zooms at PMA it's a
rumor started by me and based on nothing else but speculation. Nobody have
tol
> To my
> knowledge there are no firm rumors about PMA.
>
> Pål
>
>
What the hell is a "firm rumor"? Thats
an oxymoron.
JCO
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