Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
> The old standard reference, 18% gray, is a little dark for white > balance use although it does work fine in good light ... that's > supposed to be a Zone V gray. I prefer to use a Zone VIII gray, > about 60% gray reflectance. OK, now I'm getting somewhere. I've had less than 300 shutter re

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 13, 2007, at 10:40 AM, John Whittingham wrote: >> I doubt you have to re-install anything, though. Finding the *right* >> gray spot to sample is the trick. ;-) > > You mean like using the grey card as we all did with film, yes? I > never > considered that *light* grey. The old standard

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
> I doubt you have to re-install anything, though. Finding the *right* > gray spot to sample is the trick. ;-) You mean like using the grey card as we all did with film, yes? I never considered that *light* grey. John --

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:09 AM, John Whittingham wrote: >> The key to getting a good white balance is to find and sample a >> light gray area, not a white area... > > I've tried that at first but it never seemed right, maybe I need to > re- > install. BTW which version of ACR are you using? Right

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
> The key to getting a good white balance is to find and sample a > light gray area, not a white area... I've tried that at first but it never seemed right, maybe I need to re- install. BTW which version of ACR are you using? John -

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The key to getting a good white balance is to find and sample a light gray area, not a white area... G On Feb 13, 2007, at 2:23 AM, John Whittingham wrote: > It's great when you have a definitive reference for white, but > caused me no > end of trouble with my recent Cormorant cock-up 8) > >

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
That makes sense. In any case, I do intend to try the calibration. I bookmarked your reference page. Paul On Feb 13, 2007, at 7:01 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 13/02/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm with Godders on this one. What's more, the ideal color >> temperature

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/02/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm with Godders on this one. What's more, the ideal color > temperature varies depending on the situation, IMO. For example, when > I shot wedding reception pics in a somewhat dark restaurant with > tungsten lighting, I chose to keep the loo

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
> Personally, I've tried several different sets of ACR calibrations > for the *ist DS and K10D that people have posted here and elsewhere > ... and all of them produced results as default starting points for > color balance that were farther off the mark than just opening the > DNG file and

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm with Godders on this one. What's more, the ideal color temperature varies depending on the situation, IMO. For example, when I shot wedding reception pics in a somewhat dark restaurant with tungsten lighting, I chose to keep the look warm. When I shot ice- storm pics, I went for a cold,

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread David Savage
ACR = Adobe Camera RAW. Cheers, Dave At 01:06 AM 13/02/2007, Jens Bladt wrote: > What is ACR, Rob? I curious, since I am definitely going to keep my *ist D! >Regards >Jens > >Jens Bladt >Nytarkort / Greeting Card: >http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html > >http://www.jensbladt.dk >

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Adobe Camera Raw. Personally, I've tried several different sets of ACR calibrations for the *ist DS and K10D that people have posted here and elsewhere ... and all of them produced results as default starting points for color balance that were farther off the mark than just opening the DNG f