On 9/9/05, Juerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am glad "item" is as official as it gets, but I have no personal
> favourite between "list" and "slurpy". Please, list members, start a
> flame w^W^Wdiscussion about this so that it can be settled.
I'll fire the first shot: type names should be nouns
Larry Wall skribis 2005-09-09 16:45 (-0700):
> It's item and list, I think.
Pugs uses CxtItem and CxtSlurpy.
I am glad "item" is as official as it gets, but I have no personal
favourite between "list" and "slurpy". Please, list members, start a
flame w^W^Wdiscussion about this so that it can be s
On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 12:36:26AM +0200, Juerd wrote:
: Are "item context" and "slurpy context" official terms yet? (Note that
: "official" is temporary, not permament, and has nothing to do with
: things being set in stone.)
:
: If so, then are the keywords for forcing context also "item" and
:
On 9 Sep 2005, at 21:55, David Golden wrote:
At least one of the culprits may be Test::Exception, for any
version before 0.20. The problem is that CPANPLUS doesn't
currently play well with Module::Build and doesn't respect the
"build_requires" parameter, but only looks at the "requires"
Are "item context" and "slurpy context" official terms yet? (Note that
"official" is temporary, not permament, and has nothing to do with
things being set in stone.)
If so, then are the keywords for forcing context also "item" and
"slurpy", rather than "scalar" and "list"?
Juerd
--
http://convo
On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 22:28 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> For search results quite the opposite. I'd really like if if the default
> way people got search results back for CPAN modules at least attempted
> to order at some level based on citations. (ie number of pre-requisites)
+1
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 08:02:32PM +0200, Ingo Blechschmidt wrote:
: Hi,
:
: # Should this work?
: say (a => 1, b => 2); # 2 or error?
:
: # Similarily:
: my @array = (a => 1, b => 2);
: say @array;
:
: my $arrayref = [ a => 1, b => 2 ];
: say $arrayref;
:
: FWIW, I
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 10:37:01PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
> Or make is_prereq SO easy to game that it's a nonissue? Why should a
> module depended upon by another author be ranked any higher than one
> that isn't.
For CPANTS I see no reason.
For search results quite the opposite. I'd really
At least one of the culprits may be Test::Exception, for any version before
0.20. The problem is that CPANPLUS doesn't currently play well with
Module::Build and doesn't respect the "build_requires" parameter, but only
looks at the "requires" parameter. So you'll get unexpected failures for
t
Hi all,
Guess what the following modules all have in common (aside from the
fact that I wrote them)?
AI::NeuralNet::Simple
AI::Prolog
Games::Maze::FirstPerson
All of them have failed at one time or another because the target
computer didn't have Sub::Uplevel installed. I'm going to have t
--- Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ditch the CPANTs elements that a fail-by-default. By that I mean
> has_test_pod_coverage, is_prereq and possibly also has_test_pod.
The is_prereq is the only one that really annoys me. If folks start
using module-starter, they'll likely pass the pod
Chromatic wrote:
Maybe the problem is that CPANTS as it exists now measures some metrics
better measured on the developer side, not the installer side. It's
handy to run the POD coverage tests as the developer of a module, but
it's not that interesting for the person installing the module to run
"Andy Lester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:07:02AM -0400, Christopher H. Laco
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Why would they stop uploading? How would they, the new uploaders, even
> > know about CPANTS? It's not like uploaded files automat
Adam Kennedy wrote:
Ditch the CPANTs elements that a fail-by-default. By that I mean
has_test_pod_coverage, is_prereq and possibly also has_test_pod.
Or make is_prereq SO easy to game that it's a nonissue? Why should a
module depended upon by another author be ranked any higher than one
that
Hi,
# Should this work?
say (a => 1, b => 2); # 2 or error?
# Similarily:
my @array = (a => 1, b => 2);
say @array;
my $arrayref = [ a => 1, b => 2 ];
say $arrayref;
FWIW, I think accessing arrays and arrayrefs by key should probably not
work, but I'm unsure on (...
David Cantrell wrote:
Tels wrote:
If I were to run CPANTS, I would drop that module like a hot potato at
a summer campfire.
Oh, and reduce everyone's K rating involved in the little prank by
one :)
I thought the whole point of CPANTS was to be useful to authors, not
useful to the CPANTS
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:49:32AM -0400, Matt Diephouse wrote:
: That's what I'll eventually be getting to. But in order to design
: those methods well, we need to know what tasks we need to accomplish.
: What's even more important, I think, is the storage slots for the
: necessary information. Wh
Larry Wall skribis 2005-09-09 8:58 (-0700):
> The decision to copy is made by the =, not by @a. This also copies:
> ($a,$b) = ($b,$a)
> This is how Perl 5 assignment works, and we're trying not to break that...
This is all true.
However, back to the scalar case, assuming the comma/alias thi
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 04:58:37PM +0200, Ingo Blechschmidt wrote:
: Hi,
:
: Juerd wrote:
: > Infix? Infix operators are binary, comma is not.
That infix operators are always binary is just a cultural assumption
based on the historical restriction to right-associative and
left-associative operato
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 05:35:42PM +0200, Ingo Blechschmidt wrote:
: my @a = (1,2,3); # @a's STORE method recognized that the RHS
: # is an aggregate, so it created new containers.
The decision to copy is made by the =, not by @a. This also copies:
($a,$b) = ($b,$a
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 08:46:06AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
: If these are really postfix operators, then we can also write
:
: Foo .::{}
: Foo .::<>
: Foo .::()
But I don't think they can really be postfix. At least, ::() isn't, since
$Foo .::($bar)
would not be the same as we
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 07:41:52PM -0400, Stevan Little wrote:
: So it would be Foo::.keys() then?
:
: Would this be possible?
The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning toword postfix
operators ::{} and ::<>, essentially in same syntactic niche as ::().
Which means you'd have to write that
Hi,
Larry Wall wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 04:40:11PM +0200, Juerd wrote:
> : Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-09 15:12 (+0200):
> : > I agree that the comma operator creates an anonymous array, but I
> : > do not agree that it behaves as if it has [] around it.
> : >
> : > Creating an anon
Will Coleda wrote:
Why the change to array.pir here? How was the original way broken?
- push_eh catch
+ push_eh bad_args
subcommand_proc = find_global "_Tcl\0builtins\0array",
subcommand_name
-resume:
clear_eh
1) The catch branched to resume, which branched to bad_args (not an
Hi,
Juerd wrote:
> Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-09 15:12 (+0200):
>> I agree that the comma operator creates an anonymous array, but I do
>> not agree that it behaves as if it has [] around it.
>>
>> Creating an anonymous array does not require creating new containers
>> --
>
> So comma in
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 04:40:11PM +0200, Juerd wrote:
: Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-09 15:12 (+0200):
: > I agree that the comma operator creates an anonymous array, but I do not
: > agree that it behaves as if it has [] around it.
: >
: > Creating an anonymous array does not require creati
Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-09 15:12 (+0200):
> I agree that the comma operator creates an anonymous array, but I do not
> agree that it behaves as if it has [] around it.
>
> Creating an anonymous array does not require creating new containers --
So comma in scalar context creates an array
Why the change to array.pir here? How was the original way broken?
On Sep 9, 2005, at 10:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: leo
Date: Fri Sep 9 07:08:21 2005
New Revision: 9165
Modified:
branches/leo-ctx5/languages/tcl/lib/commands/array.pir
branches/leo-ctx5/src/inter_call.c
Log:
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:19:43PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2005, at 18:59, Nicholas Clark wrote:
>
> >
> >Would it make sense if it returned 0 rather than -1 on "not found"?
> >The implementation can never return a reference count of 0, because
> >keys
> >are automatically de
Switching to Integer doesn't help unless you have a bigint lib, at
least on my box:
The first 15 factorials are:
1
2
6
24
120
720
5040
40320
362880
3628800
39916800
479001600
no bigint lib loaded
current instr.: '(null)' pc 16 ((unknown file):-1)
To address the other point, I'll reorganize the
Hi,
Juerd wrote:
> Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-09 11:59 (+):
>> > > > \(@array,) is [ @array ], NOT map { \$_ } @array
>> > > I'm not sure of the []s, remember &postcirumfix:<[ ]> creates
>> > > *new* containers:
>> > That was the point.
>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] = $bar;
>> > > (@
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Andy Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Chromatic wrote:
>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> In a recent discussion with Chip and Leo, the idea came up to ask for a
> >> list of very specific TODO items -- specifically things that shoul
Alberto Simões <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The previous crashing test is now passing:
> t/examples/japhok
> 1/15 unexpectedly succeeded
I have fixed one of the JAPHs in Braga ;-) Anyway a lot of these JAPHs
depend on a specific opcode enumeration, which changed some tim
Tim Bunce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> See this thread, especially message 16 (and then 13,14,15 :)
> http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/678fbfc5a14813b5
> How close is Parrot to supporting that functionality now?
>From a technical POV namespaces are working in
Many apologies for triple posting - short-circuit between ears.
Peri Hankey
--
http://languagemachine.sourceforge.net - The language machine
Bernhard Schmalhofer via RT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Di 19. Okt 2004, 19:49:44]:
>> Is it the intended operation of the 'factorial' program on the Parrot
>> examples page to
>> truncate the results? Looks like a bug to me...
> I have checked the factorial example on
> ht
Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For splitting on regular expressions, PGE can then provide its own
> split method or function
^^
Sic. C shouldn't be an opcode at all. It's a library function or
more specifically a method inside some namespace. E.g.
String.split
Ru
I would agree. I don't expect "make" to touch anything outside of the
local sandbox...
As for tying it to install/uninstall... I would lean towards not
using those targets, or at least not running them when running the
top level targets of the same name.
On Sep 8, 2005, at 11:20 PM, Josh
Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-09 11:59 (+):
> > > > \(@array,) is [ @array ], NOT map { \$_ } @array
> > > I'm not sure of the []s, remember &postcirumfix:<[ ]> creates *new*
> > > containers:
> > That was the point.
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] = $bar;
> > > (@array,)[0] = $bar;
>
Andy Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Chromatic wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In a recent discussion with Chip and Leo, the idea came up to ask for a
>> list of very specific TODO items -- specifically things that should work
>> but don't.
> It should be possible to Configure
Joshua Hoblitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My confusion is in the correct way of running the 'clean' target to
> clean ./editor. Most of the 'clean' targets in the root Makefile do not
> invoke make recursively.
We are building 'all' recursively. This implies that all subdirectory
Makefile shou
Dave Whipp wrote:
If I want to parse a language that is sensitive to whitespace
indentation (e.g. Python, Haskell), how do I do it using P6 rules/grammars?
The way I'd usually handle it is to have a lexer that examines leading
whitespace and converts it into "indent" and "unindent" tokens. The
Nattfodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> today is the deadline for the google summer of code projects, and it's
> time anyway for a "release" of GMC.
[ two additional remarks, rest sent in PM ]
1) docs
Some recent changes, like reversing the scavenge direction isn't yet
synced to documentati
Hi,
Juerd convolution.nl> writes:
> Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-06 21:24 (+0200):
> > > \(@array,) is [ @array ], NOT map { \$_ } @array
> > I'm not sure of the []s, remember &postcirumfix:<[ ]> creates *new*
> > containers:
>
> That was the point.
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ sorry for the delayed answer ]
> I've looked over over the diffs between trunk and leo-ctx5, and here
> are my notes.
>{{ OVERALL }}
> A significant improvement. Good work, y'all.
Thanks.
>{{ USER-VISIBLE }}
> * optional parameter interface: ":op
Tels wrote:
If I were to run CPANTS, I would drop that module like a hot potato at a
summer campfire.
Oh, and reduce everyone's K rating involved in the little prank by one :)
I thought the whole point of CPANTS was to be useful to authors, not
useful to the CPANTS cabal. So if I want to
Dave Whipp wrote:
If I want to parse a language that is sensitive to whitespace
indentation (e.g. Python, Haskell), how do I do it using P6
rules/grammars?
The way I'd usually handle it is to have a lexer that examines leading
whitespace and converts it into "indent" and "unindent" tokens. T
Dave Whipp wrote:
If I want to parse a language that is sensitive to whitespace
indentation (e.g. Python, Haskell), how do I do it using P6 rules/grammars?
The way I'd usually handle it is to have a lexer that examines leading
whitespace and converts it into "indent" and "unindent" tokens. The
The previous crashing test is now passing:
t/examples/japhok
1/15 unexpectedly succeeded
These are failing, but seem to be expected as they are not counted as
failed.
t/p6rules/ws...ok 15/21# Failed (TODO) test
(lib/Parrot/Test/PGE.pm at line 73
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t/pmc/timer.t contains the remainder failure on Win32 with MinGW :
$ perl t/harness
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Parrot's top level requirements and perhaps it's 1st-order derived
requirements need
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:12:18PM -0700, Bernhard Schmalhofer via RT wrote:
> 't/doc/pod.t' also make a lot of sense. However could you comment on the
> relation to t/perl/Parrot_Docs.t ? It looks like it checks the same
> things as 'pod.t'.
> I wonder whether it is worthwile to maintain Parrot::D
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Moin,
On Friday 09 September 2005 03:08, David Golden wrote:
> It can't be by the same author, though, to count for is_prereq, right?
>
> So someone needs to create a new CPAN ID, and release a module under
> that ID that prereqs all of CPAN. Then we'd all get
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