"Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" writes:
> Maybe we should focus on porting Perl 5 modules
With the current size of CPAN this is IMHO not the way to go.
A Perl5 embedding interface is more promising.
Pugs had that in a not perfect but usable state. Not sure about
Rakudo.
An embedded Perl5 in Rakudo
Daniel Carrera writes:
> If they are critics to begin with, the size of the test suite will
> not impress them. They could just as well conclude that Perl 6 must
> have a million corner cases and gotchas that have to be tested. I
> have never seen a language review that I thought was worth reading
Wendell Hatcher writes:
> My point is make it a production release so peeps can push it to the
> powers that be in the corporate world.
Valid point.
Will http://packages.debian.org/experimental/rakudo be continued?
> This has been the longest production build in test in the history of
> mankind
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-06-01 at 14:53 +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote:
>> I would be very interested to see something that allowed Rakudo to
>> talk to Fortran 95.
>>
>> I am going to use Fortran 95 for my thesis work, and maybe I could
>> write a module to g
On Thu, 2011-06-01 at 14:53 +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote:
> I would be very interested to see something that allowed Rakudo to
> talk to Fortran 95.
>
> I am going to use Fortran 95 for my thesis work, and maybe I could
> write a module to give Rakudo a basic array language. Nothing fancy
Is there
I would be very interested to see something that allowed Rakudo to
talk to Fortran 95.
I am going to use Fortran 95 for my thesis work, and maybe I could
write a module to give Rakudo a basic array language. Nothing fancy
like MATLAB, NumPy or PDL, but enough to try out algorithms and
prototype id
On 01/05/2011 02:51 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote:
Let me just give a probably totally irrelevant comment here.
I think most of the open source projects have been in use by
many people in production environment before the project had
a "production release". I guess there are still places that think
Linux
Let me just give a probably totally irrelevant comment here.
I think most of the open source projects have been in use by
many people in production environment before the project had
a "production release". I guess there are still places that think
Linux is not good for their production environment
On Wed, 2011-05-01 at 21:04 +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
> Guy,
>
> Your idea is actually exactly what I was suggesting when I said
> 'example
> programs'.
What convinced me that rakudo is worth pursuing was the 3-line dice
class with a roll() method. What I do now is 'use fields' and build
On Wed, 2011-05-01 at 20:51 +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
> 'serious project' ???
>
> For some 'serious' people, Perl6 is a 'serious project'. Concepts of
> 'serious' differ amongst reasonable people. Not a problem if your
> 'serious' aint my 'serious'.
For programming languages, there are
Guy,
Your idea is actually exactly what I was suggesting when I said 'example
programs'.
I think there are/were perl6 versions for the shootout problems. I am
not sure what happened to them.
Getting benchmarking will be interesting.
Regards,
Richard
On 01/05/11 20:15, Guy Hulbert wrote:
'serious project' ???
For some 'serious' people, Perl6 is a 'serious project'. Concepts of
'serious' differ amongst reasonable people. Not a problem if your
'serious' aint my 'serious'.
As an aside, it took 358 years to prove Fermat's Last Theorem. Wiles -
who proved it - shut himself away f
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
> From what Larry has already said, I dont think he ever will say the Perl 6
> spec is ready. The spec and the language are evolving together. That is what
> the waterfall and attractor stuff was all about.
Not relevant. The question is wh
On Wed, 2011-05-01 at 10:24 -0700, Wendell Hatcher wrote:
> I have to agree I don't think this is a serious project. In-fact at
> this point it seems like a bunch of friends working on a hobby in
> their basement.
I'm not sure I said anything to agree with. You seem to misinterpret my
intention.
I have to agree I don't think this is a serious project. In-fact at this point
it seems like a bunch of friends working on a hobby in their basement.
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On 01/05/11 19:48, Daniel Carrera wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
It is blindingly obvious that the majority of language users, ..., will only
start to use a language
when it is recommended by 'those in authority'...
I think the issue of a version number is i
On Wed, 2011-05-01 at 18:02 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:30, Guy Hulbert wrote:
>
> > Rakudo is not listed here:
> > http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/
> > Fixing that is something I'd like to help with.
> >
> > Note that go was listed *before* it was announced. That
, at 6:13 AM, "Anderson, Jim"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hear! Hear!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Daniel Carrera [mailto:dcarr...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:15 AM
>>> To: Richard Hainsw
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:30, Guy Hulbert wrote:
> Rakudo is not listed here:
> http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/
> Fixing that is something I'd like to help with.
>
> Note that go was listed *before* it was announced. That tells me that
> the go authors are, in some small way, more serious abo
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
> It is blindingly obvious that the majority of language users, ..., will only
> start to use a language
> when it is recommended by 'those in authority'...
>
> I think the issue of a version number is irrelevant
1) You have more or less
! Hear!
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Carrera [mailto:dcarr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:15 AM
To: Richard Hainsworth
Cc: perl6-us...@perl.org
Subject: Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl
Although everything you said is technically true, I
On Wed, 2011-05-01 at 19:05 +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
> It seems you may have concluded something not intended.
I was unsurprised at the reaction to your post.
[snip]
> I think the issue of a version number is irrelevant, given the vested
Clearly you were wrong.
[snip]
> For my part, I
essage-
From: Daniel Carrera [mailto:dcarr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:15 AM
To: Richard Hainsworth
Cc: perl6-us...@perl.org
Subject: Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl
Although everything you said is technically true, I must point out
that wit
erl.org
> Subject: Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl
>
> Although everything you said is technically true, I must point out
> that without a definitive release, potential users will tend to avoid
> the software. For people not involved in the process (i.e
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Anderson, Jim wrote:
> Hear! Hear!
Uhmm... sorry if I looked angry or whatever. Email is at times a poor
medium of communication because you lose details like tone of voice
and body language. I just wanted to highlight something that I think
is relevant to anyone wh
Hear! Hear!
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Carrera [mailto:dcarr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:15 AM
To: Richard Hainsworth
Cc: perl6-us...@perl.org
Subject: Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl
Although everything you said is technically
Although everything you said is technically true, I must point out
that without a definitive release, potential users will tend to avoid
the software. For people not involved in the process (i.e. 99.995% of
Perl users) it is impossible to know when the software is good enough
for use. You may talk
So I'd change that to "after a production release of a Perl 6 compiler"
Out of curiosity (because I think it will illuminate some of the difficulty
Rakudo devs have in declaring something to be a "production release"):
- What constitues a "production release"?
- What was the first prod
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