Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:03 AM, kilon alios wrote: > is this not the cases if you cannot beat them join them ? Do you seriously > believe Amber or Pharo can compete AngularJS , correct me if I am wrong, when > behind this framework is Google itself ? Against is a no-chance thing. It’s either

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Who is people? Is it inside Inria? If not it might be a good idea to make it > visible to the public so a few more people could chime in. > > Norbert That question brings us to: Get the Heck Out of the Building in Founder’s School: Part 2

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

Am 29.04.2014 um 15:22 schrieb Nicolas Petton : > > Esteban Lorenzano writes: >>> Pharo being the front end , the IDE for amber, using Pharo to live code a >>> website. That would be a very cool demo. Especially if Amber could leverage >>> the Pharo debugger. >> >> I’m trying to convince Nic

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:42, Sebastian Sastre wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Nicolas Petton wrote: > >>> >>> I’m trying to convince Nico to do that for *ages* but he does not sees >>> the advantages/coolness of that approach. >> >> Esteban, >> >> That is just not true (and unfair).

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Nicolas Petton wrote: >> >> I’m trying to convince Nico to do that for *ages* but he does not sees >> the advantages/coolness of that approach. > > Esteban, > > That is just not true (and unfair). > > I in fact started a project called Nemo with Ben some time a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

Esteban Lorenzano writes: >> Pharo being the front end , the IDE for amber, using Pharo to live code a >> website. That would be a very cool demo. Especially if Amber could leverage >> the Pharo debugger. > > I’m trying to convince Nico to do that for *ages* but he does not sees > the advantage

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

Sorry I meant "Do you seriously believe people will give *up* JS for Amber alternatives ? " On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, kilon alios wrote: > I was talking mainly about the IDE and other areas where Pharo and Amber > overlap. I think Amber is awesome for what it is and should be kept > deve

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

I was talking mainly about the IDE and other areas where Pharo and Amber overlap. I think Amber is awesome for what it is and should be kept developed independently. "If your ass is being kicked by AngularJS or Meteor because you reach the goal fas

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

On Apr 29, 2014, at 9:35 AM, kilon alios wrote: > I think that Amber and Pharo should be merged, maybe not as code bases or > not as projects or websites or whatever but as communities. The way I see it > both work towards the same goal, making the Smalltalk voice heard loud and > clear. I t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

People introduced to amber is highly unlikely to be aware of Pharo but that does not change the fact that if you as Amber tell this coder "hey I also offer a very powerful IDE" instead of "hey I also offer a very basic IDE" it will be obviously a big plus for him. I just dont think diverting resou

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote: >> >> 1. The most kick ass thing I can think of would go something like this... >> > The most "kick ass thing" I can think of is... > > - Have a Pharo World being interfaced to an amber frontend, so you can use > your image through your

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

On 29 Apr 2014, at 11:03, kilon alios wrote: > how about the other way around ? > > Pharo being the front end , the IDE for amber, using Pharo to live code a > website. That would be a very cool demo. Especially if Amber could leverage > the Pharo debugger. I’m trying to convince Nico to do

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

how about the other way around ? Pharo being the front end , the IDE for amber, using Pharo to live code a website. That would be a very cool demo. Especially if Amber could leverage the Pharo debugger. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote: > On 2014-04-28 17:17, Ben Coman w

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

On 2014-04-28 17:17, Ben Coman wrote: > 1. The most kick ass thing I can think of would go something like this... The most "kick ass thing" I can think of is... - Have a Pharo World being interfaced to an amber frontend, so you can use your image through your browser. ... on second though

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

> > > Great to hear of small successes in reception of Pharo in the broader > community. Some ideas... > > 1. The most kick ass thing I can think of would go something like this... > a. Set up two computers nominally "customer" (or "webserver") and > "support team". Start the same image on eac

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

Sebastian Sastre wrote: Hi guys, I thought you might like to hear that after presenting a case on Smalltalk using these slides: http://dinos.flowingconcept.com to an for an heterogeneous audience ~(10% devel 10% creatives a couple of angel investors and most people w

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

Awesome! It's really cool to see you pushing like this! Keep going! Cheers, Nico Sebastian Sastre writes: > Hi guys, > > I thought you might like to hear that after presenting a case on Smalltalk > using these slides: > > http://dinos.flowingconcept.com > > to an for an heterogeneous audience ~

[Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

Hi guys, I thought you might like to hear that after presenting a case on Smalltalk using these slides: http://dinos.flowingconcept.com to an for an heterogeneous audience ~(10% devel 10% creatives a couple of angel investors and most people with administration profile) in a coworking space.