Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-08 Thread Dave Purcell
Linda Ray wrote: > Yah. Actually, all UT started was P2. Well, and Postcard, of > course. Well okay and No Depression Magazine, but, hey. Uh, you can bet dollars to donuts that P2 would've happened on its own. The accidental spawning of P2 off of Postcard nicely coincided with the general

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-06 Thread Bob Soron
At 5:34 PM -0500 on 3/5/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ><< Guess they didn't know about Joe Ely's tour with the Clash. UT was a > decade too late. > >> > >Yeah but, can't a decade too late also mean brand new to a new generation? Well, sure, if they've got no perspective. Asleep at the Wheel inv

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread LindaRay64
In a message dated 3/5/99 9:14:18 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Big deal, indeed. I agree completely with Terry, though -- it does get awfully fucking tiresome to read the tripe about UT starting some big movement, especially when one reads the oft-repeated claims t

RE: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Pflash40
>Guess they didn't know about Joe Ely's tour with the Clash. UT was a decade too late.< and the unfortunate part of this is joe ely has yet to really find his decadeone of those artists who has been mining this "genre" (whatever the hell you folks want to call this genre) for yrs and yrs yet

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread JKellySC1
In a message dated 3/5/99 12:14:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I am merely stating that one of the main journals reviewing Americana music (does anyone dispute this?? I am sure there will be) is named after a UT album. >> I thought that was a Carter Family song. I

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Ndubb
<< Guess they didn't know about Joe Ely's tour with the Clash. UT was a decade too late. >> Yeah but, can't a decade too late also mean brand new to a new generation? NW

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread KATIEJOM
In a message dated 3/5/1999 4:05:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Guess they didn't know about Joe Ely's tour with the Clash. UT was a > decade too late. WhoahBob! Pulling out all the stops and I'm reliving one helluvah great tour. Thanks for the reminder!! Kate.

RE: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Bob Soron
At 9:49 AM -0500 on 3/5/99, Jon Weisberger wrote: >One point worth recalling - and I wish I could lay my hands on the >interview - is that at least once one of the UT guys has said that part of >their interest in doing country-influenced music was for the outrageousness >factor, i.e., what could

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Bob Soron
At 10:14 AM -0500 on 3/5/99, Dave Purcell rhetorically asked: >P.S. If this newest round of roots rock is so damned great, why are >95% of its leading lights from the previous go-round (Alejandro, >Earle, Alvin, >etc.)? Well, I'm not sure he *was* being rhetorical, so I'll say, "Because all the

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Terry A. Smith
> On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote: > > > And how does "No Depression" as a name for a magazine prove anything about > > Uncle Tupe's music itself? They're the media, right? If they see Uncle > > Tupelo as big influential innovator, that's fine. But it doesn't > > necessarily prove anythi

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread James Gerard Roll
Jeff Copetas dreamt this up: > >Exactly, man. The facts is the facts. Hell, I went right out and I bought a > >pistol right after I heard "Gun" because I worship Uncle Tupelo. And that's > >not all - when Anodyne came out I rented a car and drove to the New Madrid > >fault and slept there for a

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread lance davis
>Exactly, man. The facts is the facts. Hell, I went right out and I bought a >pistol right after I heard "Gun" because I worship Uncle Tupelo. And that's >not all - when Anodyne came out I rented a car and drove to the New Madrid >fault and slept there for a few days in my flannel t-shirt and blue

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Tar Hut Records
ey knew the struggle of farming, just like I did. -Original Message- From: James Gerard Roll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: passenger side <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED) > > >On Fri, 5

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread James Gerard Roll
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote: > And how does "No Depression" as a name for a magazine prove anything about > Uncle Tupe's music itself? They're the media, right? If they see Uncle > Tupelo as big influential innovator, that's fine. But it doesn't > necessarily prove anything. -- Ter

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread James Gerard Roll
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote: > ps I think Jim might have taken my post a little bit wrong, because, I'll > admit, it didn't have a great deal to do with Tera's post that was copied > in that message. Her post just indirectly sparked those thoughts; I > wasn't necessarily challengin

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread James Gerard Roll
On 5 Mar 1999, Bill Gribble wrote: > ND is *some* people's bible. Honestly I have never even seen a single > issue of it. Last night I read a couple of the interviews in the ND > book and I was not blown away by the writing. And I have never > listened to a single Uncle Tupelo album. I saw

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Hanspeter Eggenberger
Reply to: Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED) >>Who's are the Scorchers? >>NW > > >Some overrated roots band from the 80s. >The future of nothing, as far as I can tell. > >marie As far as I can tell, Jason and the Scorchers was an im

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread marie arsenault
>Who's are the Scorchers? >NW Some overrated roots band from the 80s. The future of nothing, as far as I can tell. marie

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Ndubb
<< it doesn't mean a hill of beans that a bunch of journalists who wouldn't know Commander Cody or the Scorchers from their own arses have declared UT as grand champeen of this last round of country rockers. >> Who's are the Scorchers? NW

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Terry A. Smith
Jim's ps -- for me the term 'alt. country' indicates the combination of (post > Nirvana) ALT-rock and traditional COUNTRY. UT/Jayhawks exemplefy this > movement. > > I mean how can people deny UT's influence when the Alt. Country Bible (No > Depression) is named after one of their albums?? Some

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Bill Gribble
James Gerard Roll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I mean how can people deny UT's influence when the Alt. Country Bible (No > Depression) is named after one of their albums?? Somebody help me here?? ND is *some* people's bible. Honestly I have never even seen a single issue of it. Last night I r

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Ross Whitwam
At 10:14 AM -0500 05/3/99, Dave Purcell wrote: >In my best Beavis voice, I'd respond, "Uh...so what?" Uncle Tupelo wasn't >at the helm of *anything*. The media made them, in retrospect, the leader >of this so-called movement. Terry's point is well stated: country >rock/roots rock has been arou

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread James Gerard Roll
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Dave Purcell wrote: > reference to Tweedy because I'll gladly nominate Jack as the most > overrated of the Beats. No one would've heard jack about Jack if > Ginsberg hadn't tirelessly shopped and promoted his work. "On > The Road" will always be a jackoff work compared to

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Dave Purcell
James Gerard Roll wrote: > I think you've got your head in the sand if you think that Uncle Tupelo > was not at the helm of the current No Depression/Alt. Country ship. This > does not mean that they are a great band or that there wasn't > non-commercial country prior to UT, (much as one would ha

RE: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread Jon Weisberger
Jim says: > I also challenge the idea that Alt. Country suddenly includes Bluegrass, > Countrypolitan, Old Time, Folk, Punk-a-billy, Cowpunk, etc. Those things > existed as genres before Alt. Country and No Depression ever surfaced. So did country-rock. > I think ultimately the reason that all

Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)

1999-03-05 Thread James Gerard Roll
OH boy. Man Terry, you really have my blood boiling up here in Ann Arbor, and I am sure this debate has happened here before. But I am gonna bite anyways. On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote: > This stuff confuses me, as does the idea that a "movement" evolved around > Uncle Tupelo and T