[Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython 2.3.5 for OS9 Release Candidate available

Hot on the heels of 2.3.5 for 10.2 another installer is available for testing: MacPython 2.3.5 for MacOS9. Again, download it via As it is likely that this is the very last release of Python for classic MacOS, marking the end of Python on the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac User Python Newbies

On Feb 11, 2005, at 14:29, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:51, Roger Binns wrote: I don't really understand how your are doing the development. You have to jump to a term window to run the script? I use xemacs as my editor. The main functionality used is the syntax colouring. It also

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac User Python Newbies

On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:36, Louis Pecora wrote: Brendan Simons wrote: The IDE thread is a recurring one. Here's my experience as another Python newbie. I tried SPE, PythonCard, PyOxice, PyPE, eclipse and wing (under x11). All work, but I found that each one had enough quirks (mostly UI inconsi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac User Python Newbies

On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:51, Roger Binns wrote: I don't really understand how your are doing the development. You have to jump to a term window to run the script? I use xemacs as my editor. The main functionality used is the syntax colouring. It also has a menu bar plugin (IM-Python) that lists t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Main Python on Mac version?

On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:34, Roger Binns wrote: Yeah, if you want to use a non-system Python with an extension built with the system Python there are some potential issues. Is there a page somewhere that actually explains what all this terminology is about (eg Framework, alias bundles and similar).

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac User Python Newbies

I don't really understand how your are doing the development. You have to jump to a term window to run the script? I use xemacs as my editor. The main functionality used is the syntax colouring. It also has a menu bar plugin (IM-Python) that lists the classes and methods in the current file and

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac User Python Newbies

Brendan Simons wrote: The IDE thread is a recurring one. Here's my experience as another Python newbie. I tried SPE, PythonCard, PyOxice, PyPE, eclipse and wing (under x11). All work, but I found that each one had enough quirks (mostly UI inconsistencies, but some are downright unstable) th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Main Python on Mac version?

To my knowledge, the weakref stuff fixes some edge cases that you probably don't have. Those bugs have been in weakref for a long time. BitPim also isn't a long running process so leaks wouldn't be that big a deal. Yeah, if you want to use a non-system Python with an extension built with the sys

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Zope py2app, some progress

All the example code is in Objective C. Quite simply there is far too steep a learning curve to get through these layers be it Objective C or pseudo objects in C plus mapping into Python land. Uh, no it isn't. A fair share of the IOKit examples are pure C or C++. Ok, more accurately the examples

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Main Python on Mac version?

On Feb 11, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Roger Binns wrote: The standard library is large, it's entirely possible that five bugfix releases go by and don't touch anything you use. I think some of the weakref bugfixes (ie in the C core) may be relevant although it I may also have accidentally the usage in suc

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Main Python on Mac version?

The standard library is large, it's entirely possible that five bugfix releases go by and don't touch anything you use. I think some of the weakref bugfixes (ie in the C core) may be relevant although it I may also have accidentally the usage in such a way that it works around the problems. If you

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Main Python on Mac version?

On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:25, Roger Binns wrote: There are some bugfixes that would be nice, but it's dangerous to do that because you end up with some people that have a fast datetime module and some people with a slow datetime module, or some people with a plistlib that works with dates, and ot

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Zope py2app, some progress

On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:15, Roger Binns wrote: You don't need to touch Objective-C at all! IOKit is plain old C. All the example code is in Objective C. Quite simply there is far too steep a learning curve to get through these layers be it Objective C or pseudo objects in C plus mapping into Python

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw, site-packages, .pth problem

Sorry, the.pth files are evaluated. I was simply too stupid to copy the vtk stuff to the right place. Torsten On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Torsten Sadowski wrote: > Hi, > > I ran into a namespace conflict between wx2.5.3 and vtk4.4 on Panther > with the Macpython additions. > Analyzing the problem I stu

[Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw, site-packages, .pth problem

Hi, I ran into a namespace conflict between wx2.5.3 and vtk4.4 on Panther with the Macpython additions. Analyzing the problem I stumbled across a strange behaviour. It seems that *.pth files are simply ignored. If that is so, where does pythonw keep its pathes as I did not set a PYTHONPATH? Torst

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Discovering file type

On 10/feb/05, at 15:54, Ramm, Henning wrote: Don't think so, I looked for something similar myself and ended adding Type and Creator to every file that I recognize. Because I couldn't find a free extensive list of Type and Creator codes, I collected my own. Perhaps they are of use for anyone: Wel

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Main Python on Mac version?

Apple's upgrade policy seems to be one of urgency rather than convenience. If there were gnarly security issues in Python, I'm sure we'd have seen an upgrade. There's an upgrade around the corner called Tiger (10.4), which will ship with a more recent version of Python. Which version thi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Zope py2app, some progress

You don't need to touch Objective-C at all! IOKit is plain old C. All the example code is in Objective C. Quite simply there is far too steep a learning curve to get through these layers be it Objective C or pseudo objects in C plus mapping into Python land. It really is orders of magnitude easie

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Zope py2app, some progress

You're probably not setting the right plist keys or something for Apple's help. The documentation doesn't make it clear what should be set. Additionally I have no idea how to make them from Python so I can automate all this. Python does it, see: python/dist/src/Mac/OSX/Doc There is a heroic amount