Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Jacob Rus
Jacob Rus wrote: > 1. I just realized that I didn't mask some of the lighting effects in > that "aquified logo", so there's some spillover into the space > around it, which has since been fixed, in both [psd][1] and [png][2] > versions online. > 2. Go ahead and use the [document

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:00:45PM -0700, Donovan Preston wrote: > > I don't think stealing the Apple Installer icon is a good idea for > > .egg though - double-clicking it doesn't install anything. Perhaps > > something closer to a StuffIt archive icon (a closed box) or a Python > > logo behind A

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: > > On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Daniel Lord wrote: > >> I have to say: I really like these. Visually distinct, crisp, and >> clear. Great work to all of you who have put talents I wish I had in >> graphic design to work and produced an outstandi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:56:45AM -0400, Jacob Rus wrote: > 6. I've never used .egg files, but this icon makes them look like > installers. Is that what they are? No, they're the equivalent of jar files (archives of Python code), except they're not launchable. Unfortunately the jar icon

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 20, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Nicholas Riley wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:11:19PM -0400, Brendan Simons wrote: >> I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified >> logo. Have a look here: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ Awesome. I love them.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:56 PM, Jacob Rus wrote:  6. I've never used .egg files, but this icon makes them look like      installers.  Is that what they are?They are .zip files that contain python files and other resources used by a python package. Instead of installing source in your site-packages dir

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Troy Rollins
On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Daniel Lord wrote: > I have to say: I really like these. Visually distinct, crisp, and > clear. Great work to all of you who have put talents I wish I had in > graphic design to work and produced an outstanding set of icons the > Mac Python community should be proud

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Jacob Rus
Brendan Simons wrote: > I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified > logo. Have a look here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ > > In the spirit of open source, the layered psd files are available here: > http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CK5SU

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 20, 2006, at 20:11, Brendan Simons wrote: > I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified > logo. Have a look here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ > > In the spirit of open source, the layered psd files are available > here: > http://s65.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:11:19PM -0400, Brendan Simons wrote: > I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified > logo. Have a look here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ The .pyc logo is a great improvement over everything else I've seen - the bit

[Pythonmac-SIG] Size of (Universal) Py2app apps?

2006-04-20 Thread Ryan Wilcox
Hi all, I recently converted my pyobjc application to Universal Python 2.4, and the size came out to 7.4MB. Does this sound reasonable to everybody in size, or is there something in my setup.py that I need to change/add now that I'm building universal? Thanks, _Ryan Wilcox -- Wilcox Developm

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Brendan Simons
I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified logo. Have a look here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ In the spirit of open source, the layered psd files are available here: http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CK5SUGTM74TH3OXH3WY6R8T66 -Brendan ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Jacob Rus
has wrote: > It might be handy to compare versions with 2D-snakes and 3D-snakes side > by side (the tonal gradient on the 2D version may need nudged up a > fraction to make it pop a bit more against the backdrop). Perhaps with a > third 50% version to compare too. http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/pyth

[Pythonmac-SIG] Framework build with readline - question

2006-04-20 Thread bear
I'm trying to do a framework build of Python 2.4.2 and need to have Python use a local install of readline 5.0 but the configure step seems to be ignoring my --with-readline configure is run like this: ./configure --prefix=/home/bear/test --enable-framework=/home/bear/test/Li

[Pythonmac-SIG] HFS versus POSIX paths (changed from fixing the documentation)

2006-04-20 Thread Daniel Lord
I changed the topic so many can avoid it and we don't bore them to tears ;-)On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:02, has wrote:As for working with HFS paths (and a pox on scriptable apps that require them, btw, because they're fundamentally unreliable), you ought to be able to use Carbon.CF to translate between P

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macho_standalone progress: how to call -archs from command line?

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Walzer wrote: > >>> I think I'm on the right track here, because when I hard-code the ppc >>> architecture in the __init__ def above, macho_standalone works. >>> >>>def __init__(self, base, archs=['ppc'], dest=None, graph=None, >>> env=None,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Nir Soffer
On 20/04/2006, at 08:47, Jacob Rus wrote: > You're probably right, but make sure you look at the actual icon files > (in the zip files I linked to earlier) as well as the png files. There > are some icc profile mismatch issues here, which I always seem to run > into with png files (and it previe

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macho_standalone progress: how to call -archs from command line?

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > I think I'm on the right track here, because when I hard-code the ppc > architecture in the __init__ def above, macho_standalone works. > >def __init__(self, base, archs=['ppc'], dest=None, graph=None, > env=None, executable_path=None): I

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fixing the documentation...

2006-04-20 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 19:49, Russell Finn wrote: > >> More examples of brokenness: >> >> exists('d1:Users:has') >> False >> exists('/Users/has') >> True > > [snip] > > If d1 is the name of your system volume, then that would be a bug -- > if you were explicitly calling macpath.exists() in the first c

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Psycho & 2.4.3 universal

2006-04-20 Thread Jordan Mantha
On Apr 19, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > On 19-apr-2006, at 0:11, Jacob Rus wrote: >> I wrote: >>> I couldn't compile [psyco][1] using the 2.4.3 universal version of >>> Python on my 12" powerbook. I'm wondering if this is just a problem >>> with universal Python, or if psycho doesn'

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Latest universal build is 404

2006-04-20 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 18:43, Kevin Walzer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > After looking at my issues with macho_standalone, I realized I've been > using the "official" universal download of MacPython: but Bob > Ippolito's > site recommends a more recent build available

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fixing the documentation...

2006-04-20 Thread Russell Finn
On 4/20/06, has <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> macpath.join('foo', 'bar') > >':foo:bar' > > That said, the actual result in the above example is wrong. It should be > 'foo:bar', since 'foo' is an absolute path (a leading colon indicates a > relative path, which is not the same): Well, no; se

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:06, Charles Hartman wrote:On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: Perhaps the "snakes" logo should be larger, filling more of the icon, particularly at the smaller sizes. There isn't any real info in the "paper" background. FWIW, I agree with that. Me three.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Charles Hartman
On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Perhaps the "snakes" logo should be larger, filling more of the icon, > particularly at the smaller sizes. There isn't any real info in the > "paper" background. FWIW, I agree with that. Charles Hartman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Christopher Barker
Nicholas Riley wrote: > I'd say "PYC", > My second choice would be the unadorned one. My thoughts exactly. Only semi-related: Perhaps the "snakes" logo should be larger, filling more of the icon, particularly at the smaller sizes. There isn't any real info in the "paper" background. -Chris

[Pythonmac-SIG] Latest universal build is 404

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After looking at my issues with macho_standalone, I realized I've been using the "official" universal download of MacPython: but Bob Ippolito's site recommends a more recent build available: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/Universal-MacPython-2

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Bill Janssen
> Which do you prefer? The PYC. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

[Pythonmac-SIG] macho_standalone progress: how to call -archs from command line?

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had written a few days ago about getting this error when I try to run the latest macho_standalone on an app bundle in this fashion: macho_standalone ~/Desktop/Myapp.app: File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/macho_standa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Barber
On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Jacob Rus wrote: > > On Apr 20, Brendan Simons wrote: >> You do see other apps badging icons with the suffix. It's standard >> procedure for those files which can be opened by more than one >> editor/reader. Take PDF for instance. The preview icon is there, >> bu

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 36, Issue 60

2006-04-20 Thread Jon Schull
On Apr 19, 2006, at 21:41, Christopher Barker wrote:Well, a script is text, but a .pyc file is not Data. Maybe "bytecode",which is too long, or "bytes" or "code" or ".pyc" or ???I think it should be an Apple with a bite out of it--get it? Apple, snake, apple, byte .I kill myself ;-) Okay obviously

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 13:31, Jacob Rus wrote: >> You do see other apps badging icons with the suffix. It's standard >> procedure for those files which can be opened by more than one >> editor/reader. Take PDF for instance. The preview icon is there, >> but >> so is "PDF", as a reminder that you

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Jacob Rus
> You do see other apps badging icons with the suffix. It's standard > procedure for those files which can be opened by more than one > editor/reader. Take PDF for instance. The preview icon is there, but > so is "PDF", as a reminder that you don't -really- need to open it with > preview. H

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Brendan Simons
On 20-Apr-06, at 5:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The regular .py files should probably be badged "Python" as well, I think that's overkill; you don't see other apps doing this sort of thing. Have some faith in your own material. :) Don't forget that file names will already have a '.py' suffix, so

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fixing the documentation...

2006-04-20 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 11:02, has wrote: > Ronald wrote: > Macpath deals with OS9/Carbon style paths (Volume:directory:file instead of /Volume/directory/file). >>> >>> Don't know where you're seeing this; I've tried a few of the >>> functions and none work with HFS-style paths, only POSIX

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fixing the documentation...

2006-04-20 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 11:50, has wrote: > Ronald Oussoren wrote: > 2.1 macpath -- MacOS path manipulation functions >>> >>> Deprecate. Also note that the 2.4.3 documentation now says "It >>> can be used to manipulate old-style Macintosh pathnames on Mac OS >>> X (or any other platform

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread has
Jacob Rus wrote: >>In fact, I think the ones-and-zeros background without any words might work >>just fine. > >Easy enough: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/pyc-icon-variations.png > >Which do you prefer? Ones-and-zeros only, I say. The only other thing that'd make sense is 'BYTECODE', but t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fixing the documentation...

2006-04-20 Thread has
Ronald wrote: >>>Macpath deals with OS9/Carbon style paths (Volume:directory:file >>>instead of /Volume/directory/file). >> >>Don't know where you're seeing this; I've tried a few of the functions and >>none work with HFS-style paths, only POSIX-style paths. > > >>> macpath.join('foo', 'bar') >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread has
Brendan Simons wrote: >> > They look great, but what the heck is "DATA"? >> >> >>It was has's [idea][1] for what a .pyo/.pyc icons should look like, similar >>to how script editor allows saving of plain text .applescript files with an >>icon labeled "TEXT". >> >>[1]: >>

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fixing the documentation...

2006-04-20 Thread has
Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> 2.1 macpath -- MacOS path manipulation functions >> >>Deprecate. Also note that the 2.4.3 documentation now says "It can be used to >>manipulate old-style Macintosh pathnames on Mac OS X (or any other >>platform)." which is incorrect (it uses POSIX-style paths),

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unintsaller for Universal

2006-04-20 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 7:44, kevin parks wrote: > thank you bob you rock! > > \m/ (>.<) \m/ > > this totally works ... (for anyone else needing to dumb down to 2.4.1) > > cheers all... I'm am interested in hearing about why you need to go back and if there's anything we can do to make it possible