Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDE that doesn't look awful?

2008-10-22 Thread Brendan Simons
I'll offer a counter opinion to say that I quite like Komodo. If you can live with just text highlighting and the ability to run scripts from the editor, I like textwrangler. -- Brendan Simons __ Be smarter than spam

[Pythonmac-SIG] Matplotlib & numpy 1.0b5 binaries

2006-09-12 Thread Brendan Simons
Howdy all numerical and scientific visualization programmers Charlie Moad has released OS-X binaries of matplotlib 87.5 and numpy 1.0b5 here: http://euclid.uits.iupui.edu/mplfiles/ These are slightly newer than the ones on pythonmac.org/packages, and more importantly they're compatible with o

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Adding Apps - Pycrust too?

2006-04-25 Thread Brendan Simons
-On Apr 25, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Brendan Simons wrote: > >> While you're (re)considering adding Build Applet.app >> to the distribution, can I suggest another useful app? >> >> PyCrust is a great little

[Pythonmac-SIG] Adding Apps - Pycrust too?

2006-04-25 Thread Brendan Simons
While you're (re)considering adding Build Applet.app to the distribution, can I suggest another useful app? PyCrust is a great little interactive Python shell that adds introspection and code completion. It's written in wx.python and comes packaged in a .app bundle with a nice icon :) You can ge

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-25 Thread Brendan Simons
ven this behaviour, I retract my earlier reccomendation. If the "Python.app" icon will be staying in the dock while the app runs (cases 2, 3), I'm -1 on the rocket, and +1 on the "applet" icon we're not using yet. As for case 4, shouldn't the dock icon match the app icon?

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-25 Thread Brendan Simons
logo. Brendan -- Brendan Simons On 25-Apr-06, at 5:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >From: has <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: April 25, 2006 4:45:46 AM EDT (CA) >To: pythonmac-sig@python.org >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup > >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] on a tangent from new icons

2006-04-22 Thread Brendan Simons
On 21-Apr-06, at 6:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Apr 21, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Jacob Rus wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: Jacob Rus wrote:    * Do we want different icons for py2applet.app and BuildApplet.app?      What exactly is the difference between these? BuildApplet isn't any good at creating sel

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Brendan Simons
On 22-Apr-06, at 4:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Date: April 21, 2006 11:00:22 PM EDT (CA) To: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup Jacob Rus wrote: How's this then: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png Alright, 2 or 3 of the ic

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 36, Issue 69

2006-04-21 Thread Brendan Simons
>From: Zachery Bir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:22:30 -0400 >Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup >On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Rus wrote: >> Zachery Bir wrote: >>> glenn andreas wrote: A shaded egg with a python logo decal seems good... >>> >>>

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Brendan Simons
for OS components.  I don't want to dilute their visual meaning by co-opting the icon for something different.  I agree that the box isn't great either though since eggs aren't executable.On 21-Apr-06, at 6:00 AM, donovan preston wrote:On Apr 20, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Nicholas Riley wrote:

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Brendan Simons
I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified logo. Have a look here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ In the spirit of open source, the layered psd files are available here: http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CK5SUGTM74TH3OXH3WY6R8T66 -Brendan ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Brendan Simons
On 20-Apr-06, at 5:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The regular .py files should probably be badged "Python" as well, I think that's overkill; you don't see other apps doing this sort of thing. Have some faith in your own material. :) Don't forget that file names will already have a '.py' suffix, so

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Brendan Simons
On 20-Apr-06, at 12:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: Jacob Rus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: April 19, 2006 10:06:34 PM EDT (CA) To: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup Bill Janssen wrote: No, I disagree.  If there is any text, it should be in dark gra

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Brendan Simons
On 19-Apr-06, at 8:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Christopher Barker wrote: > They look great, but what the heck is "DATA"? It was has's [idea][1] for what a .pyo/.pyc icons should look like, similar to how script editor allows saving of plain text .applescript files with an icon labeled "TEXT".

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Brendan Simons
harvard.edu/~jrus/python/python-logo-glassy.png I fiddled with the java applet launcher icon a few weeks ago, but I didn't much like the result. You can see a copy here: http:// www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/131701626/ If you want the photoshop file with

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Python icons.

2006-03-21 Thread Brendan Simons
Chris, And  These look great!  Which one is for what?I asked Tim Parkin to send me a transparent version of the logo, so you can experiment without the white border.   Find it attached.The only other thing I'd request would be proper document icon type badging per http://developer.apple.com/documen

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-06 Thread Brendan Simons
--- Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday, March 06, 2006, at 05:07PM, Brendan > Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I did some more digging in /system and /developer, > and > >found this icon: > >http://twototango.blogs.com/Developer_Ap

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-06 Thread Brendan Simons
--- Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fine by me, if someone actually creates the icons! > Brendan Simons has created some icons that look good > enough, although the launcher icon could be better. I did some more digging in /system and /developer, and found t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Icons for universal build (was: Download page on www.python.org now updated)

2006-03-04 Thread Brendan Simons
For interest's sake, here's the one I tried to do. (I'm not advocating it, but I put so much work into it ;) http://twototango.blogs.com/PythonLauncherBlech.tiff Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Icons for universal build (was: Download page on www.python.org now updated)

2006-03-04 Thread Brendan Simons
Preview also. - Brendan On 4-Mar-06, at 7:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Brendan> Python Documents: http://twototango.blogs.com/ > PythonDocument.icns > Brendan> Python Launcher: http://twototango.blogs.com/ > PythonLauncher.icns > Brendan> Idle: http://twototango.blogs.co

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Icons for universal build (was: Download page on www.python.org now updated)

2006-03-04 Thread Brendan Simons
Hmmm, Typepad is doing something funny with the mimetypes on those links.  If you have trouble opening them, here are 128x128 tiff versions:http://twototango.blogs.com/PythonDocument.tifhttp://twototango.blogs.com/Idle.tifhttp://twototango.blogs.com/PythonLauncher.tif - BrendanI spent about 5 hours

[Pythonmac-SIG] Icons for universal build (was: Download page on www.python.org now updated)

2006-03-04 Thread Brendan Simons
I spent about 5 hours today drawing up my own icon idea, but my poor illustrator skills thwarted my attempts (Corel, why hast thy forsaken the mac?)Instead, I'm endorsing the official icon route.  I've made a first cut here:Python Documents:  http://twototango.blogs.com/PythonDocument.icns  Python

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

2006-02-09 Thread Brendan Simons
On 9-Feb-06, at 8:10 PM, Chris Barker wrote: Brendan Simons wrote: SPE is almost  there, but still needs a binary install. Would it be there with a good installer?Maybe.  However its under active development and changes frequently.  BTW, "Open Terminal Here" is a nifty applet Here

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] a beginner's list

2006-02-08 Thread Brendan Simons
Python for > further work. I agree, but I would switch the order/emphasis. The page should start with a "Try it yourself" link, where we show them how Python can let them do useful and interesting things out of the box. Under that link, and at the end of the tutorial, you c

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] messed up Tiger python install

2005-09-12 Thread Brendan Simons
On 12-Sep-05, at 6:00 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:Patches accepted at http://sourceforge.net/projects/python :) -bob ok, point taken.  I'm going to have to brush up on my distutils skills before I can approach that.  -Brendan--Brendan Simons, Project EngineerStern Laboratories, Ham

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] messed up Tiger python install

2005-09-11 Thread Brendan Simons
variable permanently.  Can I suggest that a tutorial be linked to the pythonmac or undefined.org/packages sites detailing this process?  Alternatively, can the path be modified by the 2.4 install script?-Brendan--Brendan Simons, Project EngineerStern La

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Eclipse+PyDev

2005-06-22 Thread Brendan Simons
On 22-Jun-05, at 1:14 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Is anyone using Eclipse + PyDev on OS-X I used it briefly on 10.3 It ran so slowly on my (admittedly underspec'd) iBook that I quit. YMMV. -Brendan -- Brendan Simons __ Do Y

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 24, Issue 23

2005-04-12 Thread Brendan Simons
ication icon. - What's a module browser? That's all I can come up with on the top of my head. I haven't had much chance to use PyOxide that much because the version I have crashes before I can get it to run any of my scripts. I look forward to your revision! -Brendan --

[Pythonmac-SIG] Matplotlib warning means what?

2005-03-12 Thread Brendan Simons
I've been tooling around with matplotlib, as graciously packaged by Chris Barker, and hosted on Bob Ippolito's pythonmac.org/packages site. Everything seems to be working smoothly, but I've run into a couple of warnings I can't decrypt. 1) Executing the following code, #! /usr/bin/pythonw

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: More on stdin and python scripts in BBEdit and

2005-03-05 Thread Brendan Simons
27;ve discovered 'no user interaction is allowed'. To allow your script to use gui elements, simply add: #!/usr/bin/pythonw to the top of your script. The editor is smart enough to override it's default with the interpreter you specify in the #! line Cheers Brend

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] SciPy installer for Panther Python, anyone?

2005-02-28 Thread Brendan Simons
On 28-Feb-05, at 6:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: February 27, 2005 11:22:51 PM EST To: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] SciPy installer for Panther Python, anyone? No guarantees, but my latest attempt to compile SciPy seems to have w

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Macu User Python Newbiew

2005-02-14 Thread Brendan Simons
" cmd [ " moves a block of selected text one tab level back (4 spaces if you've set "auto-expand tabs"). and " cmd ] " moves a block of text one level forward. Is this what you're looking for? TextWrangler is no IDE, but as a code editor it's very good. -Brendan On 14-Feb-05, at 2:03 PM, [EM

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Newbies need IDEs (was Mac User Python Newbie)

2005-02-14 Thread Brendan Simons
Sorry, I actually meant I tried to bundle the PythonCard Editor, in its tools directory. Your instructions are still helpful though, and I might give it another shot - Brendan On 14-Feb-05, at 1:19 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: The problem with bundling PythonCard with py2app is that it makes no se

[Pythonmac-SIG] Newbies need IDEs (was Mac User Python Newbie)

2005-02-13 Thread Brendan Simons
Maybe that's a benefit! Since they have no IDEs (that I know of), a souped up text editor is the obvious choice. No room to get confused or frustrated with the plethora of almost-there IDEs. -bob I agree that that is probably the best approach to advocate until new tools are ready. As soon

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac User Python Newbies

2005-02-12 Thread Brendan Simons
On 11-Feb-05, at 6:32 PM, Lou Pecora wrote: I don't really understand how your are doing the development. You have to jump to a term window to run the script? That was a big obstacle against many of the text editors I tried to use. TextWrangler, however, has good Python support, including cm

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac Guikits

2005-02-09 Thread Brendan Simons
Neat, thanks Jim! On 9-Feb-05, at 6:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps in the vein of historical trivia, there have been previous ties between REALbasic and python. Some years back there was an abortive attempt to create a REALbasic-like development environment for python, written in REALbas

[Pythonmac-SIG] Mac User Python Newbies

2005-02-09 Thread Brendan Simons
The IDE thread is a recurring one. Here's my experience as another Python newbie. I tried SPE, PythonCard, PyOxice, PyPE, eclipse and wing (under x11). All work, but I found that each one had enough quirks (mostly UI inconsistencies, but some are downright unstable) that I was less producti

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac Guikits

2005-02-09 Thread Brendan Simons
> It doesn't matter how cheap and fast it is for 5% of > the market. > > If you look at open source graphical toolkits that > support at least > two platforms, you won't find any that started on > the Mac. These > are the ones I know of that can be used from Python > and where they > started. >

[Pythonmac-SIG] Fink, DarwinPorts vs py2app

2005-02-08 Thread Brendan Simons
The conversation about Fink & Darwinports has introduced me to linuxy package managers for the first time, and I have to say, this looks much easier than trying to compile libraries and manage dependencies myself. My question: can I use py2app to build a redistributable app that's statically link

[Pythonmac-SIG] How do I make a binary matplotlib distribution on OS-X?

2005-02-01 Thread Brendan Simons
See my previous message about building matplotlib on OS-X. Now that I've done that, I need to give it to some of my coworkers that don't have the dev tools installed, and are aghast at the idea of typing ./configure; make, make install. So, how do I make a binary distro? Wow, serendipity! I was

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 21, Issue 35

2005-01-24 Thread Brendan Simons
rom an out-of-business mainframe OS). The result is close enough that I might be able to convince my office to switch to Apple. You can't beat that! Brendan -- Brendan Simons Stern Laboratories __ Post you

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 21, Issue 35

2005-01-24 Thread Brendan Simons
> If we can make > something that Mac users can grudgingly accept as > capable of making > good Mac interfaces, I'll feel we've accomplished our > goal. :-) Kevin, I would like to thank you for your work towards that end. wxPython allows me to develop my apps both on my home mac, and on my

[Pythonmac-SIG] Bob Ippolito's synopsis of Python(s) on OS X

2005-01-08 Thread Brendan Simons
o see how they are coming along. I've used PyOXIDE, and am suitably impressed, but it is still way too crashy for daily use. There are some promising wx-based IDEs which run fine (PyPE, PythonCard Editor, SPE), but none include a debugger, and most look just a little "off" .