Dear Karen,
 If you are not guilty of any of the suspicions that has been cast your
way -you don't have to be so defensive.
By your own words you have incriminated yourself. Please do not waste our
time and energy anymore.
Judi





----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [recoznet2] Karen issue


> I've noticed a very obvious underlying theme here on this site.
> It seems to me that the problem is you seem to tarnish the police service
> with the same brush!!!
> Isn't that being a bit prejudiced?
> If as most of you seem to think that all police are racist etc - then why
do
> Aboriginal people join? They are more than entitled to and they are openly
> accepted into the Service.
> Not everyone in the police is racist. Same as not everyone in the world is
> racist.
> Let's turn the tables here: How many police officers do you people know
and
> have spoken to personally? Do you know what life is like for them out on
the
> streets everyday dealing with the scumbags they usually face? The
> possibility of getting shot, injected, punched, abused, spat at, etc-how
do
> they feel? Do you know what it is like for their families not knowing if
> their loved ones will come home tonight?????
>
> I get shot down for my subsequent disregard for answers to my questions -
> then how is it when I have posed some questions people have ignored them
or
> brushed them aside? Goes both ways.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Trudy & Rod Bray
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2000 2:54 PM
> To: RecOzNet2
> Subject: [recoznet2] Karen issue
>
>
> Ben and Ian,
>
> I can understand your frustration and anger at Karen's inability or
> refusal to understand the extent of discrimination against Aboriginal
> Australians and their subsequent disadvantage. She displays the thinking
> of many in the police force.
>
> Although, Ben, I don't see your objection - as an insult - to having the
> NT mandatory sentencing act posted. I see it as information gained and a
> chance to 'know our enemy'.
>
> I know that Karen's continued 'questions' and subsequent disregard of
> any answers she gets, gets up a lot of people's noses and we wish to be
> rid of her. So far, there are two of you and I am sure there are a few
> more that haven't said anything yet - but will soon, I am sure.
>
> I have made suggestions before to those who cannot handle having Karen
> on the list - put her in a killfile or filter or don't add fire to the
> flames by responding to her 'questions'. Some people have done this and
> are no longer aggravated by Karen's posts except when someone responds
> and her post goes through the filter.
>
> I know this is not the answer you want from me but I have a few
> questions of my own....
>
> --If not for breach of the rules, when do we kick someone off?
> --Every time someone says something we don't like or agree with?
> --How many of the 'we' would it take?
> --Where do we draw the line on what is said?
> --How much do we believe in freedom of speech?
> --How do we try to change 60% of the Australian public when we can't
> handle just one of them on the list?
>
> I am amenable to adding a rule about racist statements but it will have
> to be worked out exactly what that entails (no vagueness) and voted on -
> simple majority of list membership will do.
>
> What do you say?
>
> Trudy
>
>
>
>
> --
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