[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread boothby
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, William Stein wrote: > > On 8/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Regarding Internet Explorer, the fact is it would >>> be 1-2 day's of work to make the SAGE notebook reasonably >>> usable from IE 7. Shift-enter would be replaced by >>> a submit button a

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread kaimmello
I'm here just to say that for non-US users, the name of the program is not the simplest to found on the web. SAGE is a name with many different meanings and I'd suggest a more "peculiar" name that could let the program to be found instantly on the web. And I agree that a web site with many exampl

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread William Stein
On 8/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Regarding Internet Explorer, the fact is it would > > be 1-2 day's of work to make the SAGE notebook reasonably > > usable from IE 7. Shift-enter would be replaced by > > a submit button and some of the CSS would have to be > > reworked,

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread boothby
> Regarding Internet Explorer, the fact is it would > be 1-2 day's of work to make the SAGE notebook reasonably > usable from IE 7. Shift-enter would be replaced by > a submit button and some of the CSS would have to be > reworked, but otherwise most things would work. It hasn't > happened yet,

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread William Stein
Hi, I just want to post to say thanks for all the excellent feedback on the question I asked earlier. I think it is all very valuable, even if some options aren't possible at present. Regarding a native Windows port, such a thing would be wonderful to have, but unfortunately it is *totally impo

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 8, 5:31 am, "Alec Mihailovs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "mabshoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > The compartmentilazation of SAGE has been suggested many times before, > > but as William has stated many times: This makes testing and debugging > > infinitely more diffcult. It is also e

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Joshua Kantor
Pretty pictures. Seriously if you look at Mathematica's website you see lots of crazy pictures of crazy graphs and such. The maple website shows a video with 3d models of a robot walking along. Does it matter whether those pictures have any mathematical content, NO. I know that this has been talk

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: "mabshoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The compartmentilazation of SAGE has been suggested many times before, > but as William has stated many times: This makes testing and debugging > infinitely more diffcult. It is also extreme likely that if you use > even minor different versions of certain

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 8, 4:25 am, "Alec Mihailovs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Being a Windows user, I can't agree less. > > > ??? In my reading of English this sounds like you strongly disagree. :-( > > Yes, my English is not that great. Certainly I meant "strongl

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Being a Windows user, I can't agree less. > > ??? In my reading of English this sounds like you strongly disagree. :-( Yes, my English is not that great. Certainly I meant "strongly agree" :-) > I am not sure if this is necessary but apparently Python can

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
On 8/7/07, Alec Mihailovs wrote: > > From: "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows > > version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard > > packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users. > > Bei

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 8, 2:56 am, "Alec Mihailovs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows > > version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard > > packages - would likely be a big factor in

[sage-devel] Reduce package for Sage

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
William, Some months ago I promised to look into the issue of creating a Reduce package for Sage (as usual: as and when time permits :). While at the ISSAC conference where Sage was conspicuous by it's complete absence! :-(, I had a brief meeting with Winfried Neun [1] from ZIB [2] - one of main

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Chris Chiasson
Pick an organization or department that uses Mathematica or Maple or MATLAB. Find out what they use it for. Put the same capabilities into SAGE. Give SAGE to them, possibly with a turnkey demonstration. Rinse and repeat?? On Aug 7, 5:22 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Sage-De

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows > version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard > packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users. Being a Windows user, I can't agree less. Also, th

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users. In my experience with Axiom, potential Windows users out number Linux users by a large number (m

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Robert Bradshaw
Being optimistic, I would hope things would pick up in the fall compared to the summer (in fact, I think it's lucky to not have a drop--assuming we're starting to aim for the non-research crowd too). I don't have any specific ideas (yet), but I think the "back to school" timeline is import

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Aaron E. Klemm
A few thoughts: * The public sage notebook really needs to be available by default on port 443. This brings up a lot of issues that have been

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Tim Lahey
On 8/7/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have been roughly > constant during the last 2-3 months. The growth of SAGE is definitely > not what I hoped for during my talk at SAGE Days 4.Does anybody > have any good ideas about how t

[sage-devel] SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread William Stein
Hi Sage-Devel, The SAGE downloads during the last week are as follows: Linux Binary 42 OS X Binary 42 Source 91 VMware (= Windows) 57 Total .. 232 The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have been roughly constant during the last 2-3 months. The growth o

[sage-devel] sage 2.7.3 hg repo

2007-08-07 Thread Joel B. Mohler
I just installed a fresh sage 2.7.3 and the hg repository has uncommitted changes: $ hg status ! .hgtags ! bundle ! export ! mercurial-howto.txt ! sage/libs/linbox/matrix_rational_dense_linbox.cpp ! sage/rings/padics/polynomial/__init__.py ! sage/rings/padics/polynomial/all.py Anybody know what