> but I will tire of the topic quickly, and I assume that much of
> sage-devel will, too.
Or have already tired.
Nick
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Richard, I didn't receive this note. Perhaps you can re-send it? Though, I
should say: this topic toes the line between fact and religion. I'm interested
to hear your thoughts, but I will tire of the topic quickly, and I assume that
much of sage-devel will, too. Perhaps you could start a bl
On May 28, 6:47 am, rjf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
> See the response to a small part of this in a separate thread on open-
> source and proofs (unless the moderator removes that message.).
>
> I joined sage-devel some time ago, but as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I
> haven't figured out how to
See the response to a small part of this in a separate thread on open-
source and proofs (unless the moderator removes that message.).
I joined sage-devel some time ago, but as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I
haven't figured out how to rejoin it as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you want the FULL response as se
I sent a note to boothby, asking that he forward it to sage-devel if
my cc didn't work, which it didn't. But he didn't forward it. That's
ok, I guess.
In the unlikely event that you want to read the whole back-and-forth,
please contact me or Tom.
But there is one point that I think is worth discu
On May 28, 6:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Groenewald) wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:27:32AM -0700, mhampton wrote:
> > I think it would be very nice to have a "citation" command in Sage,
> > something like the citation command in R. This could also provide
> > citation material fo
Hi
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:27:32AM -0700, mhampton wrote:
> I think it would be very nice to have a "citation" command in Sage,
> something like the citation command in R. This could also provide
> citation material for included packages.
Wasn't there a ticket to introduce a latex-like comma
Howdy,
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:42 PM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've made a trac ticket, #3317, to help organize some sort of
> solution(s) to this problem.
Great!
>> Parsing this could be the start of a useful summary of functionality
>> used for a given computation: at least k
I've made a trac ticket, #3317, to help organize some sort of
solution(s) to this problem.
-M. Hampton
On May 27, 7:02 pm, "Fernando Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As someone who is "upstream", did you have any spec
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As someone who is "upstream", did you have any specific ideas /
> examples in mind?
This is certainly not an easy problem if one wants a '100%' solution,
in the sense that tracking down every single line of code in any giv
That might work; it would be easier than what I was thinking, which
would be to do something like put a CITATION section in docstrings
that would get read if a citation command was run, or if a verbose-
like option was set...although what you are suggesting wouldn't pick
up linked libraries would
> I save the commands which were
> needed to do the computation and restart SAGE. Someone (not me)
> writes a clever script which simply parses the result of "ps us",
> picks out the sage jobs started (of which hopefully eclib is one of
> them),
> and prints a string summarizing the jobs started
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:48 PM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Surely the problem is (and it will get worse not better as Sage
> improves ;)) that users just may not know which constituents
> (3rd-party packages, i.e.spkgs) their Sage session has used. Are we
> asking that our us
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:18 PM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My intention was to sound hopeful rather than lazy; my apologies if my
> tone was not clear. I completely agree that it is important to
> provide full credit, and that is the whole reason I am spending time
> writing on this
> Forgive my tone, but honestly, if an outsider sees messages like the
> above with a hint of "we'll give proper citation sif the original
> authors help us", it should come as no surprise that upstream projects
> are beginning to see inclusion in Sage as an asymmetrical relationship
> (as comment
My intention was to sound hopeful rather than lazy; my apologies if my
tone was not clear. I completely agree that it is important to
provide full credit, and that is the whole reason I am spending time
writing on this thread, and why I brought up the citation command in
R. For my own papers I p
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:16 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem might not get much worse if Sage-native code starts
> providing more functionality. Also, this is an area where the
> upstream people might be willing to chip in some effort, since it
> would be directly helping
I am working on a project this summer that uses SAGE to assemble some
interactive Calculus lessons, and I was hoping to do something like
this. So thank you very much!
Will this be placed in the manual or the Wiki?
regards
john perry
On May 27, 9:57 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Algebraic geometry! Would David Kohel be interested in hosting a
meeting in Marseille, I wonder?
When the "new coercion model" sees the light of day, or is about to,
that would be a good useful thing to cover, though perhaps for
developers and not as the headline crowd-gatherer.
John
2008/5/27
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:11 PM, David Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Algebraic topology.
Symbolics. :)
Ondrej
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Algebraic topology.
David
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 2:32 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dynamical systems - I think this now might be Sage's weakest area of
> mathematics. Getting AUTO/pydstool and other more specialized code in
> Sage is necessary if its going to have any appeal to t
Yeah, I arrive in Seattle on June 9.
David
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 26-May-08, at 9:40 PM, David Roe wrote:
>>
>> I've gotten distracted by trying to do work that my advisor gave me.
>> I suspect it's mostly a matter of Robert and I havin
Yes, that is definitely a problem. But even having a simple
citation() function would be an improvement - something that
immediately says how to cite Sage itself, perhaps followed by citation
information on other packages and what they are used for.
It would be nice to have some sort of verbose
Surely the problem is (and it will get worse not better as Sage
improves ;)) that users just may not know which constituents
(3rd-party packages, i.e.spkgs) their Sage session has used. Are we
asking that our users take the trouble to find out (using lots of ?
and ?? commands) the complete set
Would you like another mirror site? I was in the beginning of a new project
that would be a place for opensource scientific material. Text, program,
operating system, consulting, book, anything... I bought
openscienceware.org/net/com and get hosting with a large bandwidth (I
hope!). Would you like
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