[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 1, 7:19 pm, "Justin C. Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 31, 2008, at 17:13 , mabshoff wrote: > > > > > Hello folks, > > > here goes 3.2.alpha2 which should fix all known issues from > > 3.2.alpha1. A lot of fixes from BD 15 were merged and we are well on > > the way to the fina

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Oct 31, 2008, at 17:13 , mabshoff wrote: > > Hello folks, > > here goes 3.2.alpha2 which should fix all known issues from > 3.2.alpha1. A lot of fixes from BD 15 were merged and we are well on > the way to the final 3.2. I plan to do another alpha3 in two days > unless I run our of time in wh

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org

2008-11-01 Thread Timothy Clemans
I have used the Virtual Private Server company Slicehost which is now owned by Rackspace, see http://slicehost.com. They have a web-based control panel that makes it easy to restart a slice remotely. Is there a plan to make the Sage servers at UW rebootable remotely? On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:40 P

[sage-devel] Re: Possibly useful webpage

2008-11-01 Thread Hazem
William, You should add Sage to the site SymbolicNet http://www.symbolicnet.org/, I was surprised to find that Sage was not listed there. You will probably find some useful info there too. I came across this site: http://jscl-meditor.sourceforge.net/ which is of interest also. Towards the botto

[sage-devel] Re: Possibly useful webpage

2008-11-01 Thread Hazem
Done. Hazem On Nov 1, 8:08 pm, Hazem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will shortly write to the maintainer(s), and I've already identified > a couple of e-mail addresses, however, I wouldn't be surprised if they > bounce since they appear to be very old. > > The submission of the Sage site for aut

[sage-devel] Re: Identity permutation

2008-11-01 Thread Mike Hansen
This problem was due to the fact that conversion to GAP just wasn't implemented. I've posted a patch a http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4419 . --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe fr

[sage-devel] Re: Possibly useful webpage

2008-11-01 Thread Hazem
I will shortly write to the maintainer(s), and I've already identified a couple of e-mail addresses, however, I wouldn't be surprised if they bounce since they appear to be very old. The submission of the Sage site for automatic inclusion via http://www.computeralgebra.nl/call.html failed for so

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org

2008-11-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Gaël <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:05:13PM -0700, William Stein wrote: >> Did you URL change from https://sagenb.org/something >> to http://sagenb.org/something, or? > > From https://sage.math.washington.edu:8101/home/pub/41/ > to http:/

[sage-devel] Re: Possibly useful webpage

2008-11-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Hazem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This page is out of date but definitely useful as a partial > compilation of CAS systems - both general and specialized: > > http://www.computeralgebra.nl > > Worth looking into, if not already known to the developers of Sage.

[sage-devel] Possibly useful webpage

2008-11-01 Thread Hazem
This page is out of date but definitely useful as a partial compilation of CAS systems - both general and specialized: http://www.computeralgebra.nl Worth looking into, if not already known to the developers of Sage. best regards, Hazem --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ T

[sage-devel] Re: Error copying ideals over the complexes to Singular.

2008-11-01 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Saturday 01 November 2008, mmarco wrote: > I agree that, when it is possible, it is better to work in exact > rings. But sometimes (not in this particular example, but in other > similar ones) you actually need to use complex numbers. I guess there > is a way to do it in an alggebraic extension

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org

2008-11-01 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Gaël <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi William, hi sage developpers, >> >> I have been trying to send e-mail to this group from my main mail >> account, >> but it is failing, so I'll just use gmail (Google got me). >> >> So, the sagenb.org ser

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org

2008-11-01 Thread Gaël
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:05:13PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > Did you URL change from https://sagenb.org/something > to http://sagenb.org/something, or? >From https://sage.math.washington.edu:8101/home/pub/41/ to http://sagenb.org/home/pub/41/ > Generally, if you have your own webspace, it wo

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org

2008-11-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Gaël <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi William, hi sage developpers, > > I have been trying to send e-mail to this group from my main mail > account, > but it is failing, so I'll just use gmail (Google got me). > > So, the sagenb.org server has been reset (yeah, fo

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb.org

2008-11-01 Thread Gaël
Hi William, hi sage developpers, I have been trying to send e-mail to this group from my main mail account, but it is failing, so I'll just use gmail (Google got me). So, the sagenb.org server has been reset (yeah, fork bombs, nice) :(. I was planning to link to a notebook in an article I am pub

[sage-devel] Re: Error copying ideals over the complexes to Singular.

2008-11-01 Thread mmarco
I agree that, when it is possible, it is better to work in exact rings. But sometimes (not in this particular example, but in other similar ones) you actually need to use complex numbers. I guess there is a way to do it in an alggebraic extension of Q, but i am not sure how to handle that with sag

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting is too complicated....

2008-11-01 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:28 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > In principle, it's possible to insert a try except clause into the > plot command, > so that it would > > try: > plot(x^2,2,10) > except: > plot(lambda x:real(zeta(x)),2,10) > > There might be more efficient solutions though. I think this

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread David Joyner
On the third pass of sage -testall, it appears that sage -testall is also hanging on tut.tex, but when I reran the verbose option it passed fine. On to pass #4 On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:05 PM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It appears that sage -testall is also hanging on > devel/

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread David Joyner
It appears that sage -testall is also hanging on devel/sage/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_generic.py but when I reran the verbose option it passed fine. Again, this is on amd64 ubuntu 8.10/intrepid ibex. On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks, >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:14 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Nov 1, 7:10 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It appears that the doc test is hanging on amd64 ubuntu 8.10/intrepid ibex. >> Is there something in sage -t devel/doc/const/const.tex >> that is supposed t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 1, 7:10 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It appears that the doc test is hanging on amd64 ubuntu 8.10/intrepid ibex. > Is there something in sage -t  devel/doc/const/const.tex > that is supposed to take a long time? > Nope, just kill the python process and rerun the test w

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread David Joyner
It appears that the doc test is hanging on amd64 ubuntu 8.10/intrepid ibex. Is there something in sage -t devel/doc/const/const.tex that is supposed to take a long time? On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks, > > here goes 3.2.alpha2 which should f

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread John Cremona
Two build reports for alpha2: Successful build on my laptop (ubuntu 32-bit). THe only doctest failures are in caclulus.py: sage -t devel/sage/sage/calculus/calculus.py ** File "/home/john/sage-3.2.alpha2/tmp/calculus.py", line

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting is too complicated....

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 1, 6:21 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > I know about plot?. But you misread my post. I was not trying to > type Maple commands into Sage. > > I was wondering why there should be such a blatant difference > between plotting x->x^2 and plotting the zeta function on

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting is too complicated....

2008-11-01 Thread David Joyner
In principle, it's possible to insert a try except clause into the plot command, so that it would try: plot(x^2,2,10) except: plot(lambda x:real(zeta(x)),2,10) There might be more efficient solutions though. On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting is too complicated....

2008-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know about plot?. But you misread my post. I was not trying to type Maple commands into Sage. I was wondering why there should be such a blatant difference between plotting x->x^2 and plotting the zeta function on an interval on the real axis. My point was that Maple shows this is not necessary

[sage-devel] Re: Identity permutation

2008-11-01 Thread David Joyner
Agreed. In fact, it seems to me the proper syntax is sage: p = gap(PermutationGroupElement('(1,2,3)')) sage: q = gap(PermutationGroupElement('()')) sage: gap.Group([p, q]) Group( [ (1,2,3), () ] ) sage: gap.Group([p]) == gap.Group([p, q]) True and here it all works fine. I think Permutation (whi

[sage-devel] Re: Identity permutation

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 1, 5:37 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other hand, > > sage: gap.Group(["(1,2)","()"]) > Group( [ (1,2), () ] ) > sage: gap.Group(["(1,2)"]) > Group( [ (1,2) ] ) > sage: gap.Group(["(1,2)","()"]) == gap.Group(["(1,2)"]) > True > > so GAP does allow the identity as

[sage-devel] Re: Identity permutation

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 1, 1:14 am, Minh Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carlo Hamalainen wrote: > > Hi, > > > I think this is a bit weird, in 3.2.alpha0. Should I make a trac ticket? > > > sage: p = gap(Permutation('(1,2,3)')) > > sage: q = gap(Permutation([()])) > > sage: gap.Group([p, q]) > > [...] > > I

[sage-devel] Re: Identity permutation

2008-11-01 Thread David Joyner
On the other hand, sage: gap.Group(["(1,2)","()"]) Group( [ (1,2), () ] ) sage: gap.Group(["(1,2)"]) Group( [ (1,2) ] ) sage: gap.Group(["(1,2)","()"]) == gap.Group(["(1,2)"]) True so GAP does allow the identity as a member of the list of generators. On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Minh Nguyen

[sage-devel] Re: Error copying ideals over the complexes to Singular.

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 31, 11:27 pm, Michael Brickenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even, if that bug wouldn't exist, I can only recommend > to do such computation over the rationals, if possible. > > Gröbner bases and similar computations (like syzygies) over floating > point numbers are > very problematic:

[sage-devel] Re: Known broken optional doctests in Sage 3.2.alpha2

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 1, 3:12 am, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi John, > How about making up a wiki page with all those in and asking for > volunteers to sign up?  It would also be helpful if the optional > packages needed by each were noted (if that is easy to determine). > I'm certainly happy t

[sage-devel] Re: Plotting is too complicated....

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 1, 4:59 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > I want to make a simple plot for a talk. As an experiment I try > > plot(x^2,2,10)     (*) > > and it works as expected. So happily I go for the real thing > > plot(zeta(x),2,10)       (**) > > Unfortunately I get a long l

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 1, 5:08 am, "Georg S. Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Hi Georg, > Sage3.2.alpha2 built fine on my Intel Core2 Duo Mac OS X 10.4.11 / > Xcode 2.5. Good. > Due most probably to the patch from trac ticket #788, several doctests > throw numerical noise errors. Yeah, that was to b

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.alpha2 released

2008-11-01 Thread Georg S. Weber
Hi, Sage3.2.alpha2 built fine on my Intel Core2 Duo Mac OS X 10.4.11 / Xcode 2.5. Due most probably to the patch from trac ticket #788, several doctests throw numerical noise errors. Here are the first ones (doctesting is not complete yet): sage -t -long devel/sage/sage/calculus/calculus.py **

[sage-devel] Plotting is too complicated....

2008-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I want to make a simple plot for a talk. As an experiment I try plot(x^2,2,10) (*) and it works as expected. So happily I go for the real thing plot(zeta(x),2,10) (**) Unfortunately I get a long list of exceptions but no clear indication what the problem is. plot(zeta,2,10)(*)

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-11-01 Thread Henryk Trappmann
Maybe its a bit off topic but in the line of thought: I wonder whether the subset of the reals generated by +,-,*,/,x^y,log_x y from {1} (that means it contains at least Q) is decidable (i.e. whether we can decide equality for two given expressions in the operations and 1). For a start we could

[sage-devel] Re: Known broken optional doctests in Sage 3.2.alpha2

2008-11-01 Thread John Cremona
How about making up a wiki page with all those in and asking for volunteers to sign up? It would also be helpful if the optional packages needed by each were noted (if that is easy to determine). I'm certainly happy to see to the three (?) elliptic curves ones. John 2008/11/1 mabshoff <[EMAIL P

[sage-devel] Re: Identity permutation

2008-11-01 Thread Minh Nguyen
Carlo Hamalainen wrote: > Hi, > > I think this is a bit weird, in 3.2.alpha0. Should I make a trac ticket? > > sage: p = gap(Permutation('(1,2,3)')) > sage: q = gap(Permutation([()])) > sage: gap.Group([p, q]) [...] I receive a similar error using 3.1.4: ---

[sage-devel] Identity permutation

2008-11-01 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
Hi, I think this is a bit weird, in 3.2.alpha0. Should I make a trac ticket? sage: p = gap(Permutation('(1,2,3)')) sage: q = gap(Permutation([()])) sage: gap.Group([p, q]) --- TypeError Traceb