[sage-devel] Re: Sage Lightweight LiveCD feedback.

2009-05-08 Thread Rob Beezer
Hi Lucio, Tried another machine - works great! Three suggestions: 1. Can you put up a few lines that tell a user to type "startx" when they get the first prompt (assuming you can't just totally automate it)? 2. Both machines I used have high-resolution screens so the terminal window was very

[sage-devel] Re: Linear Algebra QuickRef

2009-05-08 Thread Rado
This is very useful, I will definately use it. An extended version can have a list of the similar commands in Mathematica,Maple,Matlab (to decrease the anxiety for the new converts). Something like http://www.scipy.org/NumPy_for_Matlab_Users a page I find more useful than the whole numpy manual.

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Rob Beezer
Gonzalo, I don't think you have anything to apologize for relative to your participation in this thread. To the contrary, your key questions halfway through (that ended up in some other thread), I thought did a perfect job of capturing the debate. Your English is great and your Latin is even be

[sage-devel] Linear Algebra QuickRef

2009-05-08 Thread Rob Beezer
I've put together a quick reference sheet (two pages) for linear algebra commands in Sage. I'll do a bit more clean-up on this before posting a final copy on the wiki in a couple days, so I know there is a bit more work to do. Specifically, I might reorder the sections if I come up with a more l

[sage-devel] Re: JavaScript Graph editor

2009-05-08 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Rado wrote: > > Btw, I finished the rudimentary version of the live editor. > > http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~rkirov2/processing/grapheditor_live.html > > Click the "live" checkbox to see the vertices rearrange is real time. > My implementation is quite simplistic (no

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Brian Granger wrote: > >> Indeed... but the OP claimed that a jpeg couldn't be a derived work of >> gimp because it's not a C++ program, which is a non sequitur. > > Do you actually think a JPEG is a derived for of GIMP or do you > disagree with how I was arguing?

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.4.2 released (and this time it is the final one)

2009-05-08 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM, mabshoff wrote: >> > All the bits are in the usual place in >> >> >  http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-cycles-3.4.2/ >> > Binaries have been build and should show up in the next 24 hours on > the main sage site and then mirror out. Are th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 plan

2009-05-08 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 12:55:57AM -0700, davidloeffler wrote: > Can I use this opportunity to request some reviews for modular forms > patches? Let me do the same for the prerequisite patches for the category framework. They are all in trac now. Having them (or most of them) in Sage would defini

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Jaap Spies
John Cremona wrote: > 2009/5/8 Ondrej Certik : >> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: >>> Ondrej Certik wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM, John Cremona wrote: > I had rather assumed that the new list was never intended to be read > by anyone anyway

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread John Cremona
2009/5/8 Ondrej Certik : > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: >> >> Ondrej Certik wrote: >>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM, John Cremona wrote: >> I had rather assumed that the new list was never intended to be read by anyone anyway >>> >>> Not sure what you mean

[sage-devel] Re: Symbolics and Sage 4.0

2009-05-08 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On May 8, 2009, at 10:41 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> >> Also >> >> sage: sqrt(SR(16)) >> sqrt(16) >> sage: 27^(1/3) >> 27^(1/3) > > The little patch I posted to >http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5930 > fixes > > sage: sqr

[sage-devel] Re: Symbolics and Sage 4.0

2009-05-08 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > > On May 7, 2009, at 4:45 PM, William Stein wrote: > >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Robert Bradshaw >> wrote: >>> >>> On May 7, 2009, at 4:10 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: >>> Hello all, I've been doing a lot of work rece

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > > Ondrej Certik wrote: >> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM, John Cremona wrote: > >>> I had rather assumed that the new list was never intended to be read >>> by anyone anyway >> >> Not sure what you mean. I thought William has asked to move

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Jaap Spies
Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM, John Cremona wrote: >> I had rather assumed that the new list was never intended to be read >> by anyone anyway > > Not sure what you mean. I thought William has asked to move the > discussion there, but I hope he didn't mean that noone

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM, John Cremona wrote: > > 2009/5/8 William Stein : >> I've just set the sage-flame list to be completely unmoderated,  which seems appropriate for sage-flame. >>> >>> I hope it will not be spammed. If the sympy list was not moderated, >>> it'd be full of sp

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread John Cremona
2009/5/8 William Stein : > >>> I've just set the sage-flame list to be completely unmoderated, which >>> seems appropriate for sage-flame. >> >> I hope it will not be spammed. If the sympy list was not moderated, >> it'd be full of spam already. > > Good point. That usually only happens after a

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread William Stein
>> I've just set the sage-flame list to be completely unmoderated,  which >> seems appropriate for sage-flame. > > I hope it will not be spammed. If the sympy list was not moderated, > it'd be full of spam already. Good point. That usually only happens after a list has been around a while and ha

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Lightweight LiveCD feedback.

2009-05-08 Thread Rob Beezer
Hi Lucio, Not on vmware. Burned a CD and am running it on an x86 laptop. I'll experiment some more this afternoon or evening and report back. Rob On May 8, 12:34 am, Lucio Lastra wrote: > Update: > > Rob, are you running sagelwlcd on vmware? > > I found some information about "line 198" in

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:58 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:42 PM, William Stein wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Brian Granger >>> wrote: Most of all, everyone, please go read the damn GPL! >>

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:42 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Brian Granger >> wrote: >>> Most of all, everyone, please go read the damn GPL! >>> >>> Brian >> >> Though very interesting to me personally, this

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:42 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Brian Granger wrote: >> >>> Indeed... but the OP claimed that a jpeg couldn't be a derived work of >>> gimp because it's not a C++ program, which is a non sequitur. >> >> Do you actually think a JPEG is a de

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 6, 10:05 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > I think it depends on the context Yeahr, I think so too, and that's the reason why i think we will never get an answer based on technical facts and we could discuss forever on this subject. The jurisdictional system isn't only based on technical

[sage-devel] Re: Perhaps a bug in polynomial()

2009-05-08 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Kwankyu wrote: > > Hi, > > This works: > > sage: R.=PolynomialRing(QQ,2) > sage: a=x^2+x*y+y > sage: a.polynomial(x) > x^2 + y*x + y > > But this does not work: > > sage: R.=PolynomialRing(GF(5),2) > sage: a=x^2+x*y+y > sage: a.polynomial(x) > Traceback (most recen

[sage-devel] Perhaps a bug in polynomial()

2009-05-08 Thread Kwankyu
Hi, This works: sage: R.=PolynomialRing(QQ,2) sage: a=x^2+x*y+y sage: a.polynomial(x) x^2 + y*x + y But this does not work: sage: R.=PolynomialRing(GF(5),2) sage: a=x^2+x*y+y sage: a.polynomial(x) Traceback (most recent call last): ... TypeError: 'tuple' object cannot be interpreted as an inde

[sage-devel] Re: return type for coefficient,

2009-05-08 Thread John Cremona
2009/5/7 Robert Bradshaw : > > On May 7, 2009, at 2:15 PM, John Cremona wrote: > >> It is a documented feature -- look at the docstring which says >> >> def coefficient(self, degrees): >> """ >> Return the coefficient of the variables with the degrees >> specified in th

[sage-devel] Re: Symbolics and Sage 4.0

2009-05-08 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On May 7, 2009, at 4:45 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> >> On May 7, 2009, at 4:10 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I've been doing a lot of work recent trying to get the new symbolics >>> ready for Sage 4.0. With 4.0 due

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Lightweight LiveCD feedback.

2009-05-08 Thread Lucio Lastra
Update: Rob, are you running sagelwlcd on vmware? I found some information about "line 198" in here: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/f90e2df58cdf5495 but seems to be related only when running sagelwlcd under vmware on Windows XP. Anyways, I strongly recommend to