[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 01:46:29PM -0700, Robert Miller wrote: > > On Jun 24, 10:34 pm, Robert Miller wrote: > > > I really like having the ticket number first, it makes it easy to see   > > > (given an ordered list of patches) what patches belong as part of a   > > > single ticket. E.g. > > > >

[sage-devel] Re: Is MatrixGroup_gap_finite_field and WeylGroup_gens always finite?

2009-06-25 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Sébastien! On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 03:06:15PM -0700, slabbe wrote: > This weekend I was introducing Sage to a friend. To illustrate Jmol, I > showed him some 3d Cayley graphs of some finite groups : > > {{{ > sage: S = SymmetricGroup(4) > sage: S.cayley_graph() > Digraph on 24 vertice

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread Kiran Kedlaya
On 64-bit Fedora 10, I see these doctest failures: sage -t "devel/sage/doc/fr/tutorial/programming.rst" sage -t "devel/sage/sage/misc/darwin_utilities.pyx" Kiran On Jun 25, 2:18 pm, Robert Miller wrote: > This release is primarily the Python upgrade. The source tarball and >

[sage-devel] problem with complex_plot and real_part

2009-06-25 Thread Nick Alexander
Can someone verify that this is a bug? Any hope a fix? (This is with sage-4.0.2 on sage.math.) {{{ sage: complex_plot((x^2 + I).sqrt().real_part(), (-2, 2), (-2, 2)) --- RuntimeError Traceback

[sage-devel] Re: Naming Conventions for Dirac Delta, Heaviside Theta and Unit Step

2009-06-25 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > > Hi, > ... > > If I gather properly, we are having two different step functions > (at least for now) as > > (2) Heaviside: > (a) represented as: "heaviside" > (b) latex name :"H" > (c) heaviside(0): "heaviside(0)

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread Marshall Hampton
I got the following on an intel mac, 10.4.11, not sure which are known or unknown issues at this point: The following tests failed: sage -t "devel/sage/doc/fr/tutorial/programming.rst" sage -t "devel/sage/sage/graphs/graph.py" sage -t "devel/sage/sage/misc/darwin_util

[sage-devel] Re: Naming Conventions for Dirac Delta, Heaviside Theta and Unit Step

2009-06-25 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Maurizio wrote: > Honestly, I don't actually know whether it means that much, but at > this point I think that it could be useful for us to follow > Mathematica in defining two different functions: Heaviside which is > undefined in 0 and that is defined as the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jun 25, 11:18 am, Robert Miller wrote: > This release is primarily the Python upgrade. The source tarball and > sage.math binary are here: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.alpha1.tarhttp://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.alpha1-s... > > If

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima Errors

2009-06-25 Thread kcrisman
Thanks for that explanation, gsw. I feel like I have a better sense of why that happened so often in class! - kcrisman On Jun 25, 4:10 pm, gsw wrote: > Hi, > > I suspect you're just running out of RAM. > Not necessarily physically, but the construction Sage --> expect > interface --> Maxima --

[sage-devel] Re: video for sage days 16

2009-06-25 Thread Rado
Nice video embedding. Btw, it seems the first video is repeated twice (hence the double length). Click to minute 49. Rado On Jun 25, 2:51 pm, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:50 PM, William Stein wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Video and slides for *all* the talks so far from S

[sage-devel] Is MatrixGroup_gap_finite_field and WeylGroup_gens always finite?

2009-06-25 Thread slabbe
Hi, This weekend I was introducing Sage to a friend. To illustrate Jmol, I showed him some 3d Cayley graphs of some finite groups : {{{ sage: S = SymmetricGroup(4) sage: S.cayley_graph() Digraph on 24 vertices }}} Then, he asked me to show the Cayley graph of some groups he often works with :

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread Robert Miller
Maybe we should just bump all the version numbers of python packages... I thought this would be a better approach (as did William, who first suggested it), but I wanted to see if upgrading worked with copying site-packages first. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread John Cremona
These test failures on 32-bit ubuntu (fresh build): .//home/john/sage-4.1.alpha1/devel/sage/doc/common .//home/john/sage-4.1.alpha1/devel/sage/doc/en .//home/john/sage-4.1.alpha1/devel/sage/doc/fr .//home/john/sage-4.1.alpha1/devel/sage/sage after these error mess

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: > > fails on sage.math, too Just so you know, upgrading from Python 2.5 to Python 2.6 is really hard. At a minimum, doing it right should involve rebuilding *every* Python package in all of Sage. My understanding is that maybe Mike shortcu

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Boothby
fails on sage.math, too On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Jaap Spies wrote: > > Robert Miller wrote: >> This release is primarily the Python upgrade. The source tarball and >> sage.math binary are here: >> >> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.alpha1.tar >> http://sage.ma

[sage-devel] Re: video for sage days 16

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:50 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Video and slides for *all* the talks so far from Sage Days 16 are now >> posted here: >> >>   http://wiki.sagemath.org/days16 > > I have embedded the first two v

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread Jaap Spies
Robert Miller wrote: > This release is primarily the Python upgrade. The source tarball and > sage.math binary are here: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.alpha1.tar > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.alpha1-sage.math-only-x86_64-Linux.ta

[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread Robert Miller
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:19:38AM -0700, Jason Grout wrote: > > When Mike was experimenting with trac 0.11, he made a plugin or > > something that put a "raw" link next to the attachment link, so an > > attachment would look like: > > > trac_3948_description.patch (raw) Apply on top of previous

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:09 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Nick Alexander wrote: >> >> >> On 25-Jun-09, at 5:10 AM, David Joyner wrote: >> >>> Build failed for intel macbook 10.4.11 >>> >>> Should I post the full log somewhere? Here is the tail: >>> >>> >>> /Users/d

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 25, 10:39 pm, Utpal Sarkar wrote: > The link to the sage tutorial from the knol article seems to be broken > thx, fixed. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread Ryan Dingman
Unfortunately, I don't have access to a OSX <= 10.4 box otherwise I would have ported this code to those versions when I originally wrote the code for this patch. If anyone has a machine available with OSX 10.4 or 10.3 I'd be happy to port this code to it. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Robert

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread Utpal Sarkar
The link to the sage tutorial from the knol article seems to be broken On Jun 24, 7:19 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Jun 24, 6:16 pm, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: > > > I'll second this. Wikipedia is the highest source of traffic for   > > Cython after google and people typing in cython.org direc

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima Errors

2009-06-25 Thread gsw
Hi, I suspect you're just running out of RAM. Not necessarily physically, but the construction Sage --> expect interface --> Maxima --> Lisp implementation is a fragile one. If the Lisp implementation "thinks" it runs out of space, this is not handled too gracefully by Maxima, and as a consequenc

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread kcrisman
Upgrade from 4.0.2 failed (as predicted by the original poster!) during build of sage.spkg on PPC X.4, with a lot of ImportErrors e.g. no module named mercurial, no module named jinja (to import from). It also pulled the outputs of the documentation, which seemed strange to me (as opposed to buil

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima Errors

2009-06-25 Thread rjf
Perhaps your computation required more space than was available in the Lisp system that was running your version of Maxima. You might, for example, run out of "string" space on some Lisp systems, without totally using up all storage. Since you do not give enough information to reproduce your prob

[sage-devel] Re: video for sage days 16

2009-06-25 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:50 PM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > Video and slides for *all* the talks so far from Sage Days 16 are now > posted here: > >   http://wiki.sagemath.org/days16 I have embedded the first two videos here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/ondrej/scratch/sd16/v

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Nick Alexander wrote: > > > On 25-Jun-09, at 5:10 AM, David Joyner wrote: > >> Build failed for intel macbook 10.4.11 >> >> Should I post the full log somewhere? Here is the tail: >> >> >> /Users/davidjoyner/sagefiles/sage-4.1.alpha0/local/include/python2.5 >> -c

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Robert Miller wrote: > > This release is primarily the Python upgrade. The following tickets were merged in Sage 4.1.alpha1: #6085: Robert Miller: Finish full implementation of c_graphs [Reviewed by Tom Boothby] #6359: Mike Hansen: update to Python 2

[sage-devel] Sage-4.1.alpha1

2009-06-25 Thread Robert Miller
This release is primarily the Python upgrade. The source tarball and sage.math binary are here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.alpha1.tar http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.alpha1-sage.math-only-x86_64-Linux.tar.gz If you care to try upgrad

[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread Pat LeSmithe
Jason Grout wrote: > When Mike was experimenting with trac 0.11, he made a plugin or > something that put a "raw" link next to the attachment link, so an > attachment would look like: > > trac_3948_description.patch (raw) Apply on top of previous patches > > where clicking on trac_... would br

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread Robert Miller
> Someone please back out patch #6027, and set it to "needs work". > > It's clearly is the reason for this brokenness, and wasn't tested on > Mac OS X 10.4 at all. As it is stated in its comments. William is working on this right now, and will post a patch momentarily. rlm --~--~-~--~---

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread Robert Miller
Sorry, I forgot to post a location. I will for alpha1, which will drop shortly. On Jun 25, 3:39 pm, kcrisman wrote: > > Is there an -upgrade location to go to? > > If the answer is no for the foreseeable future, that's > understandable.  Just asking! > > - kcrisman --~--~-~--~~--

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima Errors

2009-06-25 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Brendan, On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:58:59 -0400 Brendan Rooney wrote: > Hello > > I am currently attempting to use sage to research graph polynomials. > In particular, I am trying to generate and store the matchings > polynomial for as many graphs as is possible. The routines I am > employing a

[sage-devel] Maxima Errors

2009-06-25 Thread Brendan Rooney
Hello I am currently attempting to use sage to research graph polynomials. In particular, I am trying to generate and store the matchings polynomial for as many graphs as is possible. The routines I am employing are simple, and I have used them extensively (computing the matchings polynomial f

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread gsw
On 25 Jun., 14:10, David Joyner wrote: > Build failed for intel macbook 10.4.11 > > Should I post the full log somewhere? Here is the tail: > > /Users/davidjoyner/sagefiles/sage-4.1.alpha0/local/include/python2.5 -c > sage/misc/darwin_memory_usage.c -o > build/temp.macosx-10.3-i386-2.5/sage/misc/

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread Nick Alexander
On 25-Jun-09, at 5:10 AM, David Joyner wrote: > Build failed for intel macbook 10.4.11 > > Should I post the full log somewhere? Here is the tail: > > > /Users/davidjoyner/sagefiles/sage-4.1.alpha0/local/include/python2.5 > -c sage/misc/darwin_memory_usage.c -o build/temp.macosx-10.3- > i386-

[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:19:38AM -0700, Jason Grout wrote: > >> At the bottom of the html view, there's a link entitled "original > >> format" which gives the raw patch. It's the same as the html-view > >> url, but with "attachment" replaced with "raw-attachment." > >> > > > > And it is a major

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-25 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi Burcin, On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > I attached a patch to the trac ticket that contains an initial attempt > at the MMA notation: > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6344 > > > It doesn't work well for text mode: > > sage: f = function('f') > sage: f(x).d

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: >>> Cheers, >>> Simon >> Unix is tricky, as Solaris works, on some machines, but is not fully >> supported. (To be precise about this, one needs a definition of 'support'). > > Sage works on OS X, and OS X has been officially certified to be "UNIX". There is a separate

[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread Dan Drake
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 at 09:37AM +0100, John Cremona wrote: > I did not know that, which will be useful. What is the canonical > recipe for getting the patch's URL? When I try I sometimes find I > have downloaded some html thing by mistake. I didn't know that qimport did that either, so I made thi

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread kcrisman
> > Is there an -upgrade location to go to? If the answer is no for the foreseeable future, that's understandable. Just asking! - kcrisman --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: building sage in parallel in parallel

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM, jyr wrote: > > Below is a python script that implements the above and sets > environment variables for parallel compiles. Just save the script to > makesage.py (say) in the sage root dir and run it via > > python makesage.py -j8 > > It reduced the sage-4.0.2 compil

[sage-devel] bug in assume()?

2009-06-25 Thread Stan Schymanski
Dear all, this seems like a bug to me: -- | Sage Version 4.0.2, Release Date: 2009-06-18 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| -

[sage-devel] Re: Custom definitions for latex style

2009-06-25 Thread Stan Schymanski
Thanks for the quick reply. This is now Ticket #6403. How much effort would it be to expose this Pynac functionality? Cheers, Stan Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:22:46 +0200 > Stan Schymanski wrote: > > >> Dear all, >> >> I have been asked to forward the below to the sage-dev

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Simon King wrote: >> Hi >> >> On Jun 24, 8:33 pm, kcrisman wrote: >>> A related page to look at would >>> behttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_algebra_systems > > I updated that somewhat, expanded the description simil

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread David Joyner
Build failed for intel macbook 10.4.11 Should I post the full log somewhere? Here is the tail: /Users/davidjoyner/sagefiles/sage-4.1.alpha0/local/include/python2.5 -c sage/misc/darwin_memory_usage.c -o build/temp.macosx-10.3-i386-2.5/sage/misc/darwin_memory_usage.o -w sage/misc/darwin_memory_usa

[sage-devel] Re: Custom definitions for latex style

2009-06-25 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:22:46 +0200 Stan Schymanski wrote: > > Dear all, > > I have been asked to forward the below to the sage-devel list. Ticket > #6290 introduced a way to custom-define the latex style of functions, > but it would be great if something similar was made possible for any >

[sage-devel] Custom definitions for latex style

2009-06-25 Thread Stan Schymanski
Dear all, I have been asked to forward the below to the sage-devel list. Ticket #6290 introduced a way to custom-define the latex style of functions, but it would be great if something similar was made possible for any variable. Is there a way for this already? I used to do it in the followin

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Simon King wrote: > Hi > > On Jun 24, 8:33 pm, kcrisman wrote: >> A related page to look at would >> behttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_algebra_systems I updated that somewhat, expanded the description similar to that for Mathematica. I removed the 'Boolean Computation' whi

[sage-devel] Re: Ports to FreeBSD and/or NetBSD

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2009-Jun-25 09:09:02 +0200, William Stein wrote: >>The main problems with building Sage on BSD, in my experience, are >>that (1) you have to "gmake" instead of "make" to run the GNU version >>of Make, which is a pain, > > My approach to t

[sage-devel] Re: Ports to FreeBSD and/or NetBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Jun-25 09:09:02 +0200, William Stein wrote: >The main problems with building Sage on BSD, in my experience, are >that (1) you have to "gmake" instead of "make" to run the GNU version >of Make, which is a pain, My approach to this was to symlink gmake to $SAGE_ROOT/local/bin/make since the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > >> * Tools for image processing [5] > > yes, in pylab, plus also there is the Python Imagining Library. (PIL) > Also, don't forget openCV (http://code.google.com/p/ctypes-opencv/, for example). There are also a few other references to using openCV with numpy. N

[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Robert > Bradshaw wrote: >> On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:37 AM, John Cremona wrote: >> >>> 2009/6/25 Jason Grout : Robert Miller wrote: I think the following is a counterexample to "The trac_ prefix does not bring an

[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:37 AM, John Cremona wrote: > >> 2009/6/25 Jason Grout : >>> >>> Robert Miller wrote: >>> I think the following is a counterexample to "The trac_ prefix >>> does >>> not bring any useful information." >>>

[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:37 AM, John Cremona wrote: > 2009/6/25 Jason Grout : >> >> Robert Miller wrote: >> I think the following is a counterexample to "The trac_ prefix >> does >> not bring any useful information." > I still think it's not really, and it is just making the name

[sage-devel] Re: patch naming scheme on trac

2009-06-25 Thread John Cremona
2009/6/25 Jason Grout : > > Robert Miller wrote: > I think the following is a counterexample to "The trac_ prefix does > not bring any useful information." I still think it's not really, and it is just making the name longer, but I don't really care either. >>> I don't see the us

[sage-devel] Re: Ports to FreeBSD and/or NetBSD

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:17 AM, wrote: > On 2009-Jun-24 00:56:38 +0100, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >>Would it not be sensible to ask around on some FreeBSD/NetBSD mailing >>lists etc, and see if one could drum up enough support to start a port? > > I've done some work on getting Sage to work

[sage-devel] Re: Ports to FreeBSD and/or NetBSD

2009-06-25 Thread peterjeremy
On 2009-Jun-24 00:56:38 +0100, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: >Would it not be sensible to ask around on some FreeBSD/NetBSD mailing >lists etc, and see if one could drum up enough support to start a port? I've done some work on getting Sage to work on FreeBSD but there is still a way to go. For va

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-25 Thread Jason Grout
Nick Alexander wrote: >> I think I'm not communicating my point very clearly. I'm suggesting >> that the release manager have in his patch application script an >> automated "prepend 'Trac #: ' to the commit message" step. > > I thought of implementing this but couldn't think of a way to dis

[sage-devel] Re: Ports to FreeBSD and/or NetBSD

2009-06-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > >> >>  From the top README.txt >> >> --- >> NOT SUPPORTED: >>       * FreeBSD >>       * Arch Linux >>       * Gentoo Linux >>