Re: [sage-devel] Re: GNU tar and make for FreeBSD

2010-01-24 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2010-Jan-24 17:55:18 +0300, Aleksej Saushev wrote: >Peter Jeremy writes: >> AFAIK, both NetBSD and FreeBSD just inherited PMake from 4.4BSD. > >When did that happen? Look at the calendar, it's been 15 years of development >since. In FreeBSD's case, May 1994. I am not claiming either remains

[sage-devel] Re: graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-24 Thread Rado
Thanks for the support!!! I am overwhelmed by the positive feedback for a small weekend project like the graph_editor. On Jan 24, 3:35 pm, "Nicolas M. Thiery" wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:22:05PM -0800, William Stein wrote: > > The new graph editor in sage by Rado is AWESOME. > > YES!!! >

Re: [sage-devel] dream machine ideas

2010-01-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Brian Granger wrote: Another thing to consider is memory bandwidth. Many calculations these days are memory bandwidth bound, not disk/CPU bound. I don't know how common this is, but on the machine I own, a Sun Ultra 27, the RAM runs at 1333 MHz if there is 6 GB or less. Since I have got

[sage-devel] Updates to 'prereq' for Fortran issues

2010-01-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've made a number of changes to the 'prereq' script which should cover all Fortran issues. Sorry these were not done in earlier updates to prereq, but the GNU fortran compiler does not handled the '-dumpversion' option properly. Anyway, it should be fixed now. It would be good if this could b

Re: [sage-devel] dream machine ideas

2010-01-24 Thread Brian Granger
Another thing to consider is memory bandwidth. Many calculations these days are memory bandwidth bound, not disk/CPU bound. If you get a single machine with lots of cores and lots of RAM this is more of an issue. The current generation of Intel CPUs (the Xeon 5500's) are better with their triple

Re: [sage-devel] init.sage not attached in notebook in sage 4.3.1 (mac os x intel)

2010-01-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Felix, On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:06 AM, felix wrote: > Hi everyone, I'm CC'ing your email to the sage-notebook mailing list where it would be picked up by people interested in the Sage notebook. > in sage 4.3.1 ~/.sage/init.sage is not automatically attached in the > notebook. I use the fil

[sage-devel] init.sage not attached in notebook in sage 4.3.1 (mac os x intel)

2010-01-24 Thread felix
Hi everyone, in sage 4.3.1 ~/.sage/init.sage is not automatically attached in the notebook. I use the file to add a custom directory to sys.path. I can import my own packages when running sage from the command line, but not from the notebook. Previously, I used the 4.1.1 release and init.sage was

Re: [sage-devel] graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-24 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:22:05PM -0800, William Stein wrote: > The new graph editor in sage by Rado is AWESOME. YES!!! We are producing graphs all the time (representing all sorts of combinatorial/algebraic data), and have been dreaming of such a life saving feature for years. We would just fur

Re: [sage-devel] Re: TOO LONG!

2010-01-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:29:07AM -0800, mhampton wrote: >> On Jan 21, 1:03 pm, Robert Miller wrote: >> > 500s is too long for a doctest to take with "sage -t -long", >> > especially since on sage.math with a healthy number of threads,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: TOO LONG!

2010-01-24 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:29:07AM -0800, mhampton wrote: > On Jan 21, 1:03 pm, Robert Miller wrote: > > 500s is too long for a doctest to take with "sage -t -long", > > especially since on sage.math with a healthy number of threads, this > > one doctest will take as long as the rest of the librar

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GNU tar and make for FreeBSD

2010-01-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2010-Jan-24 03:31:17 +, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: g you? Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like assistance. I could be tempted to do this in VirtualBox. But looking at the virtualbox page http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes FreeBSD Works pa

[sage-devel] Re: Patch review

2010-01-24 Thread Oscar Lazo
On 24 ene, 13:44, Oscar Gerardo Lazo Arjona wrote: > After considerable battling with Mercurial, I've made a patch to include > coordinate transformations Ehh.. it's available in http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7872 as 13535.patch thanks -- To post to this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Patch review

2010-01-24 Thread Oscar Gerardo Lazo Arjona
After considerable battling with Mercurial, I've made a patch to include coordinate transformations in plot3d as well as spherical_plot3d and cylindrical_plot3d. The docstrings of those two are improperly formated though... Thanks to all who have helped me with this! Oscar -- To post to this

[sage-devel] plot/fast_callable error with pi in denominator

2010-01-24 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, I got this bug from the "report a problem" link This code throws an error: f(x)=1/(pi*x) plot(f(x),(x,-1,1)) but this works, so does replacing pi with e! f(x)=1/(pi^2*x) plot(f(x),(x,-1,1)) Traceback (most recent call last):plot(f(x),(x,-1,1)) File "", line 1, in File "/t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gap vs guava - why was it merged?

2010-01-24 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > well, there seems to be no patch at ticket/5701 to actually *remove* > the guava code... That is because guava (and other GAP packages and spkg's) are not under mercurial control. So to remove it, someone making up the gap spkg just takes

Re: [sage-devel] Wiki question

2010-01-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Jan 23, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > >> Nick Alexander wrote: IMHO, that is far too trivial. Most 14 year old school child will know what that is. >>> >>> You say that like it is a Bad Thing. >> >> Well it i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: dream machine ideas

2010-01-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Joshua Herman wrote: > Man i'm drooling over this thread already. What about some type of > blade system like from IBM? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/bladecenter/ I consider that approach last year (in late 2008). Then, without surprisingly expensive add-ons, bla

[sage-devel] Re: gap vs guava - why was it merged?

2010-01-24 Thread Dima Pasechnik
well, there seems to be no patch at ticket/5701 to actually *remove* the guava code... On Jan 24, 10:27 pm, David Joyner wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > while looking into updating gap to 4.4.12, I noticed that > > guava used to be a separate spkg depending on

[sage-devel] Error building v4.3.1 on Fedora 12 (32-bit)

2010-01-24 Thread gsever
Hello, Am I getting the similar error of FC12 (i686) binaries not pushed in the download section? [gse...@ccn sage-4.3.1]$ uname -a Linux ccn 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Dec 21 06:04:56 UTC 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [gse...@ccn sage-4.3.1]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 ve

Re: [sage-devel] Re: dream machine ideas

2010-01-24 Thread Joshua Herman
Man i'm drooling over this thread already. What about some type of blade system like from IBM? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/bladecenter/ On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Jan 22, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Simon King >>

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Maemo 5

2010-01-24 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 24 Jan., 13:12, mmarco wrote: > > export SBOX_REDIRECT_IGNORE=/home/maemo/workspace/sage-4.3.1/local/ > > python > > Tried that. Didn't work :( > > Any more clues? Nope, sorry. I think that somehow (the call to) Python is screwed up in this setting --- but still, it could be something else.

[sage-devel] Re: GNU tar and make for FreeBSD

2010-01-24 Thread Aleksej Saushev
François Bissey writes: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:26:45 Aleksej Saushev wrote: >> FreeBSD's make isn't bmake. It is important to remember that this >> difference exists at the very least. >> > Right it is actually NetBSD make, are there very important differences? Of course there are! Most nota

[sage-devel] Re: GNU tar and make for FreeBSD

2010-01-24 Thread Aleksej Saushev
François Bissey writes: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:19:21 Peter Jeremy wrote: >> On 2010-Jan-24 10:54:34 +1300, François Bissey > wrote: >> >On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:26:45 Aleksej Saushev wrote: >> >> FreeBSD's make isn't bmake. It is important to remember that this >> >> difference exists at the v

[sage-devel] Re: GNU tar and make for FreeBSD

2010-01-24 Thread Aleksej Saushev
Peter Jeremy writes: > On 2010-Jan-24 10:54:34 +1300, François Bissey > wrote: >>On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:26:45 Aleksej Saushev wrote: >>> FreeBSD's make isn't bmake. It is important to remember that this >>> difference exists at the very least. >> >>Right it is actually NetBSD make, are there v

Re: [sage-devel] gap vs guava - why was it merged?

2010-01-24 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > while looking into updating gap to 4.4.12, I noticed that > guava used to be a separate spkg depending on gap. > Then it got merged with gap for no apparent to me reason. > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3337 > > Logically, guava

[sage-devel] feedback button on website

2010-01-24 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, in case you wonder what that new "feedback" thing on the website is: I'm testing userecho and want to see if we get something interesting out of that. http://sagemath.userecho.com/ H -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: Could / should 'prereq' be run if ever the build is restarted?

2010-01-24 Thread Georg S. Weber
> > Solaris, Linux and HP-UX all have the 'ldd' command, which if used on one of > the > binaries that links to the fortran library, it would show up. OS X does not > appear to support such a command. > On OS X, the "ldd" functionality is provided by "otool". There is even an equivalent tool for

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Maemo 5

2010-01-24 Thread mmarco
> export SBOX_REDIRECT_IGNORE=/home/maemo/workspace/sage-4.3.1/local/ > python > Tried that. Didn't work :( Any more clues? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 24, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Robert, On Jan 24, 5:29 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Robert, the advantage is that it will simplify the *development* of Sage. Ironically, I personally find shipping all our dependancies ma

[sage-devel] gap vs guava - why was it merged?

2010-01-24 Thread Dima Pasechnik
while looking into updating gap to 4.4.12, I noticed that guava used to be a separate spkg depending on gap. Then it got merged with gap for no apparent to me reason. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3337 Logically, guava is a gap package, among many others. (currently, guava is the only

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-24 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Robert, On Jan 24, 5:29 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > Robert, > > the advantage is that it will simplify the *development* of Sage. > > Ironically, I personally find shipping all our dependancies makes   > development easier--I don't have to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: dream machine ideas

2010-01-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 22, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Simon King wrote: Would it be possible to have a faster disk system in *general* (i.e., in the /home part)? I don't know, I am no hardware expert, perhaps NFS==slow. But that would be a nice thing to have. Of c

Re: [sage-devel] Wiki question

2010-01-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 23, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Nick Alexander wrote: IMHO, that is far too trivial. Most 14 year old school child will know what that is. You say that like it is a Bad Thing. Well it is if you want to stop a spammer. They want to edit the page, so they answer such a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What is needed to build Sage ?

2010-01-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Peter Jeremy wrote: Why is Gnu tar needed? I realise that the Solaris tar is broken but I've seen no problems with bsdtar? Maybe the tar test needs to be a functionality test, rather than a version test. I'm not so convinced the Sun tar i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Robert, the advantage is that it will simplify the *development* of Sage. Ironically, I personally find shipping all our dependancies makes development easier--I don't have to worry about someone else using different version than I have,