Re: [sage-devel] Re: Ask about the SageMath codebase using ChatGPT

2023-07-01 Thread Robert Bruner
For example, I asked how to compute a resolution of a module over the Steenrod algebra. The answer is basically right, but contains the misleading phrase "To prove that the output is a resolution, we can check that the composition of consecutive maps results in the zero map by using the helper

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Graded modules over the Steenrod algebra: The degree of zero elements

2020-07-19 Thread Robert Bruner
Hi John, Your question is a good one, to look at the places where the notion that 0 has no degree causes extra effort.I have strong memories of having to go through minor but annoying contortions to deal with this, both in sage and in MAGMA, for decades now, but don't have examples fresh in

[sage-devel] Re: Problems building and installing under Fedora 32

2020-06-18 Thread Robert Poole
example.) If you want to keep > SAGE_CHECK=yes in general, then temporarily turn it off, install nose (with > `sage -i nose`), and then reenable it. Some other packages are likely to > fail their test suites, too. > > > > On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 2:13:49 AM UTC-7, Robert Poo

Re: [sage-devel] Problems building/installing on Fedora 32

2020-06-18 Thread Robert Poole
Do you have SAGE_CHECK set to 'yes' and exported? > > Also, your --prefix=$SAGE_ROOT looks dodgy. > Setting SAGE_ROOT to anything can lead to bad things during the build. > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:13 AM Robert Poole > wrote: > > > > I've bee

[sage-devel] Re: Problems building/installing on Fedora 32

2020-06-18 Thread Robert Poole
I have no idea what you are asking me. I am using the system gcc supplied in Fedora 32. On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 3:22:32 AM UTC-7, Enrique Artal wrote: > > Have you tried with gcc package. For me it works with an intel precessor. > > El lunes, 15 de junio de 2020, 11:13:49 (UT

Re: [sage-devel] unable to build sage 8.9 on osx 10.14.6

2020-05-12 Thread Robert Baertsch
74: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h */ | #define PACKAGE_NAME "Sage" > On May 12, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Could you post config.log ? > Apparently clang failed a test > > > On Tue, 12 May 2020, 18:19 Robert Baert

Re: [sage-devel] unable to build sage 8.9 on osx 10.14.6

2020-05-12 Thread Robert Baertsch
;> On May 11, 2020, at 12:08 , Robert Baertsch >> wrote: >> >> [gcc-7.4.0] In file included from >> /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/sys/sysctl.h:83:0, >> [gcc-7.4.0] from ../../src/gcc/config/darwin-driver.c:30

[sage-devel] unable to build sage 8.9 on osx 10.14.6

2020-05-11 Thread Robert Baertsch
[gcc-7.4.0] In file included from /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/sys/sysctl.h:83:0, [gcc-7.4.0] from ../../src/gcc/config/darwin-driver.c:30: [gcc-7.4.0] /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/sys/ucred.h:94:2: error: '_

[sage-devel] Workshop Announcement

2019-05-29 Thread Robert Jacobson
ing the knowledge within libraries. >- The translation of libraries to different languages and logics. >- The construction of new libraries by integrating existing libraries. >- Tools for exploring the contents of large libraries. >- Observations about past results. > &g

[sage-devel] Advice about grant funded software projects?

2018-11-22 Thread Robert Jacobson
lfram Language Slack workspace: https://join.slack.com/t/wolframlanguage/shared_invite/enQtNDg3MzYxNjU3Mzk5LTE1NGFhZWRmYjk3YTBkZjA5OGRlODQ3Njg1YjAyODliOTU0YjMxZTU0NGIyM2I1NjdhOTZjNDRjYTRhMGI1OTc Best, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel&

[sage-devel] Re: Re; Symbolic matrix inverse still gives seg-fault, core-dump

2018-06-22 Thread Robert Dodier
s going on, can someone submit a bug report for this? best, Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.

[sage-devel] Re; Symbolic matrix inverse still gives seg-fault, core-dump

2018-06-16 Thread Robert Dodier
rror. Not sure what might be going on. I didn't try any other Maxima versions. It's possible that the bug might have been fixed in Maxima, or in ECL, or that the script I tried isn't exactly the same as the original so it doesn't trigger the bug. I've attached the Maxima

[sage-devel] Re: Problems building maxima in the sage 8.1 (stable)

2018-02-21 Thread Robert Dodier
~/roswell/lisp/quicklisp/setup.lisp and failes. Not sure what's going on here, but, for the record, Maxima doesn't make use of quicklisp or roswell (not yet, anyway). So I think any references to those packages must be coming from the build environment. Sorry I can't be more h

Re: [sage-devel] Possibly bug in factoring over Cyclotomic fields

2018-02-17 Thread Robert Pollack
Thanks David. I just reported the bug to PARI. Rob On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:04 AM, David Loeffler wrote: > This is a bug in PARI, rather than in Sage, apparently: > > GP/PARI CALCULATOR Version 2.9.4 (released) > > amd64 running linux (x86-64/GMP-6.1.0 kernel) 64-

[sage-devel] Possibly bug in factoring over Cyclotomic fields

2018-02-16 Thread robert . pollack
The following code crashes (in Sage 8.1 and on CoCalc): sage: K=CyclotomicField(20) sage: R.=PolynomialRing(K) sage: (x^4-1).factor() --- PariError Traceback (most recent call last) in () >

Re: [sage-devel] On (di)graph generation

2017-10-11 Thread Robert Miller
. This is meant to be a useful general-purpose generator. -- Robert L. Miller http://www.rlmiller.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 8.0 Build Error on MacOS, [mpir-3.0.0.p0] Error building MPIR.

2017-09-13 Thread Robert Jacobson
I'm having the same issue. To get MPIR to compile I had to remove all three of mpn/x86_64/skylake/avx/addmul_1.asm mpn/x86_64/skylake/avx/mul_basecase.asm mpn/x86_64/skylake/avx/sqr_basecase.asm Thanks for working on this, Bill. Best, Robert On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:44:21

[sage-devel] Re: promoting github.com/sagemath/sage to full git trac mirror?

2017-09-12 Thread Robert Jacobson
Having a full GitHub mirror of the trac server repo is also useful for the reasons you've already mentioned. So maybe have github.com/sagemath/sagetrac-mirror in addition to github.com/sagemath/sage. Best, Robert On Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:21:50 UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >

[sage-devel] Re: SIGSEGV in Maxima

2017-08-12 Thread Robert Dodier
fication (b*c)^(1/3) --> b^(1/3)*c^(1/3) should be allowed even though domain = complex. I'm just thinking out loud here, sorry it doesn't make sense yet. All present are invited to join in. best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[sage-devel] Re: SIGSEGV in Maxima

2017-08-12 Thread Robert Dodier
s between sign(c - (b*c)^(1/3)) and sign(c^3 - b*c) (which was a subexpression of the one the user was actually interested in). See my message to maxima-discuss about this. best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel"

[sage-devel] Re: SIGSEGV in Maxima

2017-08-12 Thread Robert Dodier
) when domain = real but not domain = complex. I guess this could be considered a bug in either 'sign' or simplification. Since b and c are real, the simplification should be allowed, and then sign can succeed. But sign should be able to handle the expression even without simplification. Pr

[sage-devel] Re: SIGSEGV in Maxima

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Dodier
t 'sign' wants to find the sign of some term which needs to find the sign of another term which leads back to the first one sooner or later. A workaround might be to set domain:real instead of domain:complex. If someone can make a bug report and include these notes, that would be great.

[sage-devel] Re: Would it be a good idea to start working on a module on Population Dynamics?

2017-07-22 Thread Robert Dodier
ds to be solved in some form in various projects -- how to create an ecosystem without bogging down the main project. best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivi

[sage-devel] Re: Current Maxima version

2017-05-31 Thread Robert Dodier
o stabilize. best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, sen

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug or Feature: assumed precision of RealNumber depends on zero(s) before decimal point

2017-03-31 Thread Robert Bradshaw
is irrelevant to your actual > question. > > CC'ing Robert Bradshaw who I think wrote the relevant code for choosing > precision... > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 8:00 AM William Stein wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 7:24 AM Travis Scrimshaw >> wrote: >

[sage-devel] Review ticket #18138

2017-03-07 Thread Robert Jacobson
s options to avoid unnecessary pre-parsing of Mathematica output. The question is: Does the peer review of MathLine's code occur at the time MathLine is proposed as an experimental package? Or does it occur at the time the accompanying modified Mathematica interface is proposed? Or some combinat

[sage-devel] Re: Possible bug in Maxima related to variable names in long expressions

2017-01-29 Thread Robert Dodier
#x27;t confirm that. I built Maxima 5.37.2 with SBCL (1.3.13 as it happens) and I get "Quotient by a polynomial of higher degree". best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[sage-devel] Re: Possible bug in Maxima related to variable names in long expressions

2017-01-29 Thread Robert Dodier
m, with a long history. I'm taking a look at it today but not too optimistic. All the same, thanks for the nudge. best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[sage-devel] Re: Updates or hints on "latex Function Prevent Simplification"?

2017-01-27 Thread Robert Dodier
axima mailing list. See: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/maxima-discuss Hope this helps, Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a

[sage-devel] Re: maxima_calculus.load("blah.mac") throws, load("blah.mac'") in sage --maxima works

2017-01-12 Thread Robert Dodier
nction definitions or print output. > maxima.load("blah.mac") just hangs indefinitely. A wild guess. Is it possible that it didn't switch back to reading from the console after the file was processed? Completely guessing here. best, Robert Dodier -- You received this message b

[sage-devel] Re: Updates or hints on "latex Function Prevent Simplification"?

2016-12-10 Thread Robert Dodier
you can generate expressions by choosing an operator and arguments at random. I can help with that if you want. Hope this helps in some way. If you want to go down this road I'll be happy to answer any questions. Robert Dodier PS. ;; superq.lisp -- "super" quoting for Maxima ;; C

[sage-devel] Re: Aliases

2016-12-07 Thread Robert Dodier
ef degeneracy(self): > r""" > ... > """ > return ... > > linkage = degeneracy I dunno. Aliases are a source of ambiguity and confusion -- my advice is to pick one or the other and stick with it. Are you sure the convenience outweighs the potential problems? be

[sage-devel] Re: Current Maxima version

2016-11-28 Thread Robert Dodier
On 2016-11-28, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > well, they introduces new bugs in 5.38.1, > see https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18920 Sorry. Anyway there will be a 5.39 version "real soon now" (as in, in a week or two). FWIW Robert Dodier -- You received this message because yo

Re: [sage-devel] Checking out old branches

2016-11-22 Thread Robert Bradshaw
OK, let's consider the following setup: we have three Cython modules, a, b, and c, and b cimports a, so we have (at least) three files a.pyx a.pxd b.pyx c.pyx Having just built sage, we also have a.c b.c c.c with *newer* timestamps than any of the above. Now we switch branches (forward, backwar

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Checking out old branches

2016-11-22 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:40 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2016-11-18 20:48, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> >> Hopefully with a good ccache/cycache rebuilding from a fresh clone >> should be fast too. > > > Speaking of cycache, is there any chance that the foll

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Checking out old branches

2016-11-18 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:39 AM, David Roe wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:45 AM, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 8:12:32 AM UTC+1, David Roe wrote: >>> >>> Create a new git trac subcommand to replace `git trac checkout 1234`, say >>> `git trac old 1234`. This wou

Re: [sage-devel] square_root_mod_prime_power may produce incorrect result

2016-11-08 Thread Robert Bradshaw
Yikes! https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/66 On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Mathijs van de Nes wrote: > The function square_root_mod_prime from sage.rings.finite_rings.integer_mod > may produce an incorrect result. > > Example: > In [1]: mod(100, 5^7).sqrt()^2 > Out[1]: 15725 > In [2]: squa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to share extern variables accross modules?

2016-09-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 11:53 AM, leif wrote: > Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> On 2016-08-07 17:26, Simon King wrote: >>>I build all these extension modules with >>> libraries = ['mtx', 'modres'] >> >> This isn't the topic of this thread, but I think it is better style to >> never put librari

[sage-devel] Re: possibly controversial question: "Can I create commercial software using SageMath?"

2016-08-22 Thread Robert Dodier
rd about that. Can you refer to some cases in which the court relied on the FSF interpretation? best, Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[sage-devel] Re: daily WTF?

2016-08-22 Thread Robert Dodier
ou explain? best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this grou

[sage-devel] Re: possibly controversial question: "Can I create commercial software using SageMath?"

2016-08-19 Thread Robert Dodier
related to Sage, I would be interested to hear about it. Also, I haven't been paying attention, so if there have been previous discussions about the GPL and Sage, I apologize for trotting out a tired argument. FWIW Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Git repository should have Sage versions as branches not tags

2016-07-19 Thread Robert Bradshaw
; pull >> requests are typically against the master branch and public releases are >> when >> this branch gets updated). >> >> The bot is maintained by Robert Bradshaw, he might be able to comment >> more. >> See https://wiki.sagemath.org/Infrastructure

Re: [sage-devel] Let's talk specifics (was Re: how we develop sage)

2016-04-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
7;t promise to not break external packages, but at least we couldn't do so in ignorance which is 90% of the battle. Once this is healthy, we can think about moving existing, loosely-coupled, less-frequently-used modules out. Well defined dependencies and public APIs within "core" S

[sage-devel] Re: atan2 integration bug

2016-04-14 Thread Robert Dodier
th Version 6.10, Release Date: 2015-12-18'|numeric integral: >2.35619449019|symbolic integral: -5/4*pi I've reported this as: https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/bugs/3127/ best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel"

[sage-devel] Re: spurious integral of signum; was: Integration of function and it's simplified version yields different results

2016-04-12 Thread Robert Dodier
le to fix up abs_integrate, or it might help, as a work around, to assign default flags temporarily while abs_integrate is being called. Just guessing here. best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscr

[sage-devel] Re: atan2 integration bug

2016-04-12 Thread Robert Dodier
e current version of Maxima. Can you submit a bug report? Thanks. See: https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/bugs You will need a Sourceforge user ID to create a bug report, sorry about that, it's an antispam measure. best, Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

[sage-devel] spurious integral of signum; was: Integration of function and it's simplified version yields different results

2016-04-12 Thread Robert Dodier
grator -- a subroutine believes it sees an expression it can handle, but it's mistaken. Note that fixing this bug will likely result in integrate returning a noun expression. But that's OK for you guys, right? since then abs_integrate will handle it. best Robert Dodier PS. By the way,

[sage-devel] Re: Compiling of Sage on cygwin64 failed on package rpy2-2.7.5

2016-02-02 Thread robert . matovinovic
Thank you for the quick answers, and sorry for my late reply. I don't have time jump into that for a while, but I'll give it a try as soon as possible. Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe

[sage-devel] Re: Compiling of Sage on cygwin64 failed on package scipy-0.16.1

2016-02-02 Thread robert . matovinovic
Thank you for the quick answer, and sorry for my late reply. I don't have time jump into that for a while, but I'll give it a try as soon as possible. > Robert > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsub

[sage-devel] Compiling of Sage on cygwin64 failed on package rpy2-2.7.5

2016-01-13 Thread robert . matovinovic
27;: ./rpy/rinterface/_rinterface.c:1493:3: error: 'Rp' undeclared (first use in this function) Rp->R_Interactive = rtruefalse; error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 Any suggestions how to proceed? Thanks a lot in advance Robert -- You received this message because yo

[sage-devel] Re: bug report using assume

2015-12-16 Thread Robert Dodier
mits, inclusive. That implies the upper limit is >= the lower. Those assumptions aren't cleaned up when 'sum' is interrupted; that's a bug. If you can make a bug report about it, it would be helpful. It might have been reported already, I didn't look for it. best, Rober

[sage-devel] Re: bug in cuspidal subspace of ModularSymbols with character over p-adic field

2015-10-20 Thread robert . pollack
But it's working otherwise! Meaning that if I don't pass to the cuspidal subspace, it appears to be correctly computing slopes. And it is so much faster than working over Q(zeta_11)... On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 2:33:59 PM UTC-4, robert@gmail.com wrote: > > Th

[sage-devel] bug in cuspidal subspace of ModularSymbols with character over p-adic field

2015-10-20 Thread robert . pollack
The following code crashes and asks me to report this as a bug: sage: Qp = pAdicField(11) sage: G = DirichletGroup(11,Qp) sage: omega = G.0 sage: M = ModularSymbols(omega^2,2) sage: M Modular Symbols space of dimension 2 and level 11, weight 2, character [4 + 7*11 + 9*11^2 + 5*11^3 + 2*11^4

Re: [sage-devel] Nauty vs SageMath speed comparisons?

2015-10-05 Thread Robert Miller
canonical labeling of graphs. What I don't know (but maybe >> you do?) is how far SageMath is lagging behind. Did anyone do any testing on >> this? I saw a mention of a paper by Robert Miller, but the link was dead. >> >> I'd appreciate any pointers! >> > &

Re: [sage-devel] Mathematica interface

2015-09-12 Thread Robert Jacobson
e/the Sage project requiring proprietary libraries.) Best, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [sage-devel] Mathematica interface

2015-09-12 Thread Robert Jacobson
cross-platform developer out there considering the simplicity of my project. If anyone could help me out, I would be very grateful. If nobody has the time or energy to help, then realistically it'll be next summer before I can learn and implement the fix and submit a pull request on Sage.

[sage-devel] Guide to SageMathCloud courses

2015-09-11 Thread Robert Beezer
I just put up a comprehensive blog post about my first couple weeks using the very nice "course" functionality in SageMathCloud, and there should be enough detail there to help folks get started quickly if they'd like to do the same. Highly recommended (SMC courses, not my blog). http://www.be

Re: [sage-devel] Problems installing package qepcad

2015-06-01 Thread Robert Pollak
François Bissey wrote: > The spkg probably need an update as well as some love before being > usable. B.t.w., this is http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/10224 . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [sage-devel] Re: pushing to tickets after setting it to positive_review is incompatible with the current workflow

2015-05-07 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Julien Puydt wrote: > > May I notice that : > (1) the ticket is in stage needs_review or positive_review ; > (2) what is actually reviewed is a precise commit in a git branch ; > (3) nothing forces the ticket and the branch to be synchronized. Exactly. As for ou

Re: [sage-devel] CategoryObject vs. Parent

2015-05-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > Hi, > > Le mardi 5 mai 2015 12:44:08 UTC+2, vdelecroix a écrit : >> >> >> IMHO, they do not belong either to parents. A set has generators? >> >> sage: Partitions(5).gens_dict() >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> ... >> AttributeError

Re: [sage-devel] Re: developer map misaligned

2015-04-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
Looks like someone swapped the x and y coordinates. On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 12:52 PM, leif wrote: > Jan Groenewald wrote: >> Is it just me or do I seem to have moved somewhere West of Cape Verde in >> the Atlantic Ocean. The developer map developer locations are misaligned >> in both firefox and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patchbot fails after first attempt

2015-04-21 Thread Robert Bradshaw
--skip-base only disables the initial run (which is useful for preventing a rogue/broken install from declaring all tickets as broken). On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:49 AM, Jan Keitel wrote: > Whatever the problem was before, it is gone now - at least it just > successfully tested #18159. > When runn

[sage-devel] Re: Sage logo -- Proposal

2015-04-07 Thread Robert Jacobson
nvolved at the appropriate time. But I'm more of an enthusiastic end-user with aspirations to soon become a contributor rather than an established member of the developer community, so I don't know if my opinion should count. Best, Robert On Tuesday, 7 April 2015 10:40:3

Re: [sage-devel] Mathematica interface

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Jacobson
On Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:22:09 UTC-5, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > > On 22 December 2014 at 00:43, Robert Jacobson > wrote: > > Hi. I have yet to contribute code to sage, but I think I've found > something > > easy enough for me to start

Re: [sage-devel] Re: We can now have pictures in our documentation

2015-03-18 Thread Robert Bradshaw
Cool. Any reason we couldn't just detect the standard plot() command in a PLOT section? On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hell, > >> - Can this be used to show pdf pictures obtained by (tikz) latex code? > > > HM O_o > > Well, not as it is right now. You should b

Re: [sage-devel] *less* visible stopgap (i.e. "wrong result" warning)

2015-03-09 Thread Robert Bradshaw
+1 If it's too difficult to verify the input meets the preconditions in IntegerListsLex itself, we could have an optional argument (defaulting to False) that one can call to make the assertion that one knows the preconditions are met and suppresses this warning. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Je

[sage-devel] Re: "The End of Error"

2015-03-09 Thread Robert Dodier
loats plus some extra bits, so, I guess, if unums are more useful than floats, the difference must lie in the extra bits. But I didn't see an explanation of those bits (maybe I just missed it) and why they make a difference in various examples. Does someone know about that? best Robert Dod

Re: [sage-devel] Re: running multiple patchbots on a cluster

2015-03-07 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Ralf Stephan wrote: > Before I even look closer: are you using git master > of patchbot? The 2.2 tarball is the most recent. > Have you had a look at my pull requests? > Be aware that the version advertised on the web page > may be not state-of-the-art and mainten

Re: [sage-devel] Re: "Wrong results" or "Bad input" ?

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Bradshaw
I think proper input validation (at least not silently accepting input that will produce wrong answers) is a wortwhile bar to set for code in the global namespace. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:00 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > In the long run there is IMHO no alternative to writing proper input > validati

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage code "for educational purposes only"?

2015-02-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
I would say such a function belongs in the documentation only, and we should have an easy way of testing (and perhaps importing) code defined there. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > >> > Should there be code in Sage which is extremely slow and for educational >> > purpo

[sage-devel] Re: how to unsubscribe from Trac ticket updates

2015-02-23 Thread Robert Dodier
on system, is always_notify_updater; when it's turned off, notifications are sent only to the cc list, I gather. best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fro

[sage-devel] Re: GSoC projects

2015-02-23 Thread Robert Pollak
Am 13.02.2015 um 17:04 schrieb mmarco: > Apperently there have been some movement on that aspect on sympy too: Yes, but unfortunately no GSoC students worked on this. They also have no CAD yet, see https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-2015-Ideas#cylindrical-algebraic-decomposition . -- Yo

[sage-devel] how to unsubscribe from Trac ticket updates

2015-02-20 Thread Robert Dodier
in "X-unsubscribe-or-something" headers. I could, I guess, remove my email address from my Trac user preferences but that seems too heavy-handed, as I would still like to receive updates for other tickets. Does anyone have an idea I can try? Thanks for your help, Robert Dod

[sage-devel] Re: GSoC projects

2015-02-13 Thread Robert Pollak
Am 11.02.2015 um 13:52 schrieb mmarco: > IIRC there was an old proposal about implementing semialgebraic sets. Hello Miguel, can you point me to this old proposal? I could not find it in the list archive and on the wiki. Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSoC projects

2015-02-13 Thread Robert Pollak
te case would fit into the "semialgebraic sets" topic Miguel Marco mentioned in this thread - sorry I didn't notice earlier. Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Re: Re: Python vs Cython parents, and element constructors

2015-02-12 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2015-02-11 18:18, Marc Mezzarobba wrote: >> >> Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Element.__call__ calls it, it is a Cython call. >>> >>> There is no Element.__call__. >> >> >> I meant Parent.__call__, sorry. > > If Parent is a Python object

[sage-devel] Re: GSoC projects

2015-02-12 Thread Robert Pollak
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Re: Re: Python vs Cython parents, and element constructors

2015-02-11 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Marc Mezzarobba wrote: > Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > >> You are missing something: > > Indeed! Thanks for pointing it out. That was sloppy grepping of mine. > >> * finite fields are Python >> (src/sage/rings/finite_rings/finite_field_*.py) > > So in this case, apparent

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Python vs Cython parents, and element constructors

2015-02-11 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Marc Mezzarobba wrote: > Volker Braun wrote: >> My advice would be to implement the parent in Python and benchnmark >> it. If you are doing something in _element_constructor_ that would >> benefit greatly by Cython then you can just move that part to Cython. > > Ap

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Python vs Cython parents, and element constructors

2015-02-10 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > My advice would be to implement the parent in Python and benchnmark it. If > you are doing something in _element_constructor_ that would benefit greatly > by Cython then you can just move that part to Cython. +1 > On Tuesday, February 10, 20

Re: [sage-devel] coercion issue

2015-02-06 Thread Robert Bradshaw
Interesting. It seems the problem is that cm.discover_action(GF(5), ZZ, operator.div) tries to look for a right action on of cm.discover_action(GF(5), Frac(ZZ), operator.mul) which doesn't exist as there are no coercions between GF(5) and QQ. I posted a patch to http://trac.sagemath.or

Re: [sage-devel] Re: inherit group from monoid

2015-01-19 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 06:11:09PM -0800, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> :). It might be possible, but it'd be really, really messy (messier >> than it is in C++, because one needs the

[sage-devel] Re: How does the ECL+Maxima combination work ?

2015-01-19 Thread Robert Dodier
) $x $x))) => 2 x Maxima is a many-splendored thing but I'll leave it at that for now. best, Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Exit status of Sage

2015-01-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 2:02 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 10:28:22 AM UTC-8, Jernej Azarija wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I have to use Sage from an external comand and in order to do so I'll need >> to rely on the exit status given by Sage. Considering a trivial e

Re: [sage-devel] Re: inherit group from monoid

2015-01-13 Thread Robert Bradshaw
ically >>> and also can not (yet?) create cdef classes inheriting from more than >>> one base class. >>> >> >> I've never heard of any even dreamlike hope for Cython to support multiple >> inheritance. I even asked Robert Bradshaw about this recently

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2015-01-12 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Simon King wrote: > Hi! > > On 2015-01-11, Nils Bruin wrote: >> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 12:54:56 AM UTC-8, Martin von Gagern wrote: >>> >>> On 11.01.2015 09:38, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >>> > Hopefully it's

Re: [sage-devel] The Sage dev scripts

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Bradshaw
+1 to getting rid of the sage dev scripts in favor of git-trac (first the docs, then altogether). Hopefully it's becoming stable enough that we should start shipping it as part of Sage? On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> 1) should we keep the "S

Re: [sage-devel] Deprecate fast_float?

2015-01-09 Thread Robert Bradshaw
callable takes a domain. sage: fc = fast_callable(f, vars=["x"]) sage: fc(-1) 0 sage: fc = fast_callable(f, vars=["x"], domain=RR) sage: fc(-1) 0.0000000 sage: fc = fast_callable(f, vars=["x"], domain=float) sage: fc(-1) # that's what you get... 1.0 FW

Re: [sage-devel] Mathematica interface

2014-12-22 Thread Robert Jacobson
On Sunday, 21 December 2014 23:56:24 UTC-5, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > > There is an open source command line interface to Mathematica. IIRC it > uses curses so one can recall previous input, edit it and reevaluate. > > Dave > When I searched for one last week I was sur

[sage-devel] Mathematica interface

2014-12-21 Thread Robert Jacobson
#x27;s not sufficient, let's discuss what additional functionality we need for a Sage interface to Mathematica. If it is sufficient, should I proceed to writing some code to allow Sage to use this interface to Mathematica? --Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SageMathCloud now open source

2014-12-12 Thread Robert Bradshaw
ong and undercut the "official" SMC, but I don't think the market's that big of a target, and the relative lack of expertise would be a big handicap. - Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubsc

Re: [sage-devel] What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-05 Thread Robert Pollak
J . I know I should try to build a qepcad package for this (http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/10224) ... Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen

[sage-devel] Re: The "code of conduct" is getting out of hand - please stop for 2 weeks.

2014-11-29 Thread Robert Dodier
On 2014-11-29, Tom Boothby wrote: > The irony of this is staggering, if not surprising. +1 "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here -- this is the War Room." quotably, Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel

Re: [sage-devel] Publication of code of conduct?

2014-11-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
No, it is a statement of fact of what was voted on (changing that text would make the statement untrue), and a place to put forwards better[1] alternatives than can then be voted in to replace what is there. I created it with the hope of focusing attention on the future rather than waste time dwell

Re: [sage-devel] Re: When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

2014-11-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Viviane Pons wrote: >> I feel this is going nowhere... >> >> We should start with the assumption we all agree on something: we want the >> sage mailing list to be place where

Re: [sage-devel] Re: When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

2014-11-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Viviane Pons wrote: > I feel this is going nowhere... > > We should start with the assumption we all agree on something: we want the > sage mailing list to be place where no one is bullied and where we can > express our different point of views safely and with res

[sage-devel] Re: Slowness in comparing symbolic expressions

2014-11-26 Thread Robert Dodier
now anything about the implementation of Giac? I downloaded the source code and after poking around a bit, I can't tell where factoring such an expression actually occurs. Does Giac handle that itself, or does it punt to PARI or something else? What is the effect of expexpand in the example

[sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

2014-11-25 Thread Robert Dodier
> happening is that our collective memory is shaped in a certain way > and we exchange ideas and visions in order to steer the ship. That seems an argument in favor of ad-hoc rulings; incidentally this is an excellent statement of my own point of view (not that it matters too much). bes

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
[ X ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below I also share some of the sentiments of Thierry. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:29 PM, john_perry_usm wrote: > [ X ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Robert Dodier
On 2014-11-23, William Stein wrote: > [X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below best Robert Dodier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

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