[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-24 Thread John H Palmieri
On Apr 14, 11:56 pm, mabshoff wrote: > On Apr 13, 6:51 am, William Stein wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:55 AM, gerhard wrote: > > > > just to get back to the original question: > > > did 'inserting a usepackage{}' command ever get resolved? > > > No.  Somebody should at least create a t

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-14 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 13, 6:51 am, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:55 AM, gerhard wrote: > > > just to get back to the original question: > > did 'inserting a usepackage{}' command ever get resolved? > > No.  Somebody should at least create a trac ticket. I don't think anybody did, so here

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-14 Thread Dan Drake
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 at 11:46PM -0700, Bill Hart wrote: > Is there anyone else reading the thread who thinks they might be > interested? Any reasons why this is a really bad idea? I'm a bit late to this party, but I wanted to say that I'm definitely interested in this idea. It reminds me of a Sage-

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-13 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > > Bill Hart wrote: >> Hold that thought Rob. I'm not joking around. If you have been a >> significant contributor to this sort of thing, you sound like exactly >> the sort of person to have contributing to and working on such an >> enterprise.

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-13 Thread Jason Grout
Bill Hart wrote: > Hold that thought Rob. I'm not joking around. If you have been a > significant contributor to this sort of thing, you sound like exactly > the sort of person to have contributing to and working on such an > enterprise. > > This is so easy to get going it isn't funny. We could s

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-13 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:55 AM, gerhard wrote: > > just to get back to the original question: > did 'inserting a usepackage{}' command ever get resolved? No. Somebody should at least create a trac ticket. > It would be nice to be able to do this from the worksheet, > rather than modifying sag

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-13 Thread gerhard
just to get back to the original question: did 'inserting a usepackage{}' command ever get resolved? It would be nice to be able to do this from the worksheet, rather than modifying sage code. I also wonder if packages like tikz could be made to work? -gerhard --~--~-~--~~---

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-12 Thread Rob Beezer
Hi Bill, > If I do decide to go ahead with it, would you be interested > in being involved? Definitely. Especially if it grows organically. > nearly all old computer systems and virtually any old game > can be made to run on it regardless of what games machine it was > written for!! Yes, I'd

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-12 Thread Bill Hart
Excellent! I had hoped you would like it. It would probably be pointless if you weren't on board. Bill. On 12 Apr, 09:26, William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Bill Hart > wrote: > > > I think JSage has a slightly different focus. Specifically: > > > * It is tied to the Sag

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-12 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Bill Hart wrote: > > I think JSage has a slightly different focus. Specifically: > > * It is tied to the Sage Python library > * It is intended for people who have a complementary publication in a > traditional journal > * The code has to be included in Sage and

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-12 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Bill Hart wrote: > > Hold that thought Rob. I'm not joking around. If you have been a > significant contributor to this sort of thing, you sound like exactly > the sort of person to have contributing to and working on such an > enterprise. > > This is so easy to

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-12 Thread Bill Hart
On 12 Apr, 07:24, Rob Beezer wrote: >  Maintaining version x.y.z of the > necessary software is a very interesting idea, though I'd guess maybe > at some point the lifetime of hardware might end up being a limiting > factor? If you think about computer games, there is now a project which em

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Bill Hart
Hold that thought Rob. I'm not joking around. If you have been a significant contributor to this sort of thing, you sound like exactly the sort of person to have contributing to and working on such an enterprise. This is so easy to get going it isn't funny. We could simply start with a website wh

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Rob Beezer
Hi Bill, Well, I really was just joking around about the "distinguished" bit. ;-) You've got some great points. Maintaining version x.y.z of the necessary software is a very interesting idea, though I'd guess maybe at some point the lifetime of hardware might end up being a limiting factor? I

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Bill Hart
I think JSage has a slightly different focus. Specifically: * It is tied to the Sage Python library * It is intended for people who have a complementary publication in a traditional journal * The code has to be included in Sage and be maintained there * The board of editors consists of Sage devel

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Rob Beezer
Hi Bill, That all sounds great. But first you'll have to find somebody "distinguished." ;-) Seriously, I see no real reason there can't be interactive research articles, interactive textbooks and interactive classroom demonstrations, all with the power of Sage right at the fingertips of the re

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Bill Hart
Thanks Rob. It is great to see I am not the only person who has gotten excited. This idea is s good I am having trouble finding a reason to not Just Do It TM. I know there is a Sage Journal idea floated (JSage). So some of what I am thinking is surely motivated by that. Here is what I envisio

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Rob Beezer
Hi Bill, Grab the worksheet at http://buzzard.ups.edu/sage/sage-group-theory-primer.sws for an example of an interactive SagePaper (tm). There should even be an @interact cell that will build a nicely formatted table of the subgroups of a finite cyclic group, given the order of the group. On

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Bill Hart
Another suggestion. Has anyone thought about having SagePapers TM, which would be an arxiv of both technical mathematical papers and expository notes written entirely in Sage worksheets? This would be really cool, as it would allow the reader of the paper to play with the Sage/GP/Magma/whatever e

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Bill Hart
Ah, silly me. The "evaluate" goes away when another cell is selected. No need to worry about solving that "problem". By the way, how do I use the %latex mode in a cell? It looks like it expects whatever you would have in a latex slide. But $2+2$ for example does not latex. Bill. On 12 Apr, 00

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread Bill Hart
It doesn't seem to be imported by default. There's no other diagram package imported by default is there? I guess it would be even better to be able to do CD's outside cells, but would I be correct in thinking that is a limitation of jsMath, not the notebook? I'm really impressed by the notebook

[sage-devel] Re: Commutative diagrams in notebook

2009-04-11 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Bill Hart wrote: > > Is there a way to latex using amscd for commutative diagrams in the > notebook? This would be an extremely useful feature. > > I guess one is limited by the latex features that are available in a > webpage. > One option is to at least use %la