On 20 February 2011 00:51, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:40 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
>> Mathematica has shown the largest fall, with less than half the
>> searches as in 2004
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>> http://www.google.com/trends?q=mathematica&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
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> Note that these g
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:40 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
> On 18 February 2011 19:36, Matt Goodman wrote:
>> Regarding the academics comment, check this out:
>> http://www.google.com/trends?q=matlab%2C+python&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
>>
>> Matlab related dips notably (~50% peak to trough) durin
On 18 February 2011 19:36, Matt Goodman wrote:
> Regarding the academics comment, check this out:
> http://www.google.com/trends?q=matlab%2C+python&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
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> Matlab related dips notably (~50% peak to trough) during spring, winter, and
> summer breaks.
I can see the notice
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> > As for the conjecture that Python is wildly popular and
> > therefore the perfect choice for computational mathematics
> > I can only point to history. Pascal was everywhere, including
> > in the universities. Smalltalk took the world by storm.
> > PL/I was universal. Ada was the ultimate
On 18 February 2011 05:11, rjf wrote:
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> On Feb 17, 4:49 pm, Matt Goodman wrote:
>> MATLAB isn't a tool used outside of academia very often.
>
> I think you are wrong here. I don't have any data to point to though.
> Do you have any data on this?
Matt is definitely VERY wrong.
MATLAB is wel
Hi
On Feb 17, 6:49 pm, Matt Goodman wrote:
> MATLAB isn't a tool used outside of academia very often.
I am loathe to involve myself in this conversation, but: I'm aware
that MATLAB is used by people at NASA, in the Navy, and at Raytheon. I
seriously doubt that approaches even a tenth of MATLAB's
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:26 AM, rjf wrote:
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> On Feb 18, 8:51 am, William Stein wrote:
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>> At University of Washington, even with a site license, MATLAB costs me
>> $100, so I don't have it on my laptop.
>> There are limited licenses for students, and I've been told they have
>> trouble do
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:12 PM, daly wrote:
>> The python community is huge, skills are available,
>> and often the needs are not in the core science algorithm
>> which is well looked after, but in the glue and interface,
>> which requires a less in-depth understanding of the science
>> than the
You can back out pyc's pretty easy. See the "byteplay" package. :)
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On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Eviatar wrote:
> On Feb 18, 10:26 am, rjf wrote:
> > On Feb 18
On Feb 18, 10:26 am, rjf wrote:
> On Feb 18, 8:51 am, William Stein wrote:
> FUD?
> It seems to me that if I were writing useful/important code that
> paying
> $100 would not be such a bad idea, though I agree that "free" would be
> "better". I would have reservations though if the university ga
> The python community is huge, skills are available,
> and often the needs are not in the core science algorithm
> which is well looked after, but in the glue and interface,
> which requires a less in-depth understanding of the science
> than the core algorithm. It allows non-niche programmers to
Regarding the academics comment, check this out:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=matlab%2C+python&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
Matlab related dips notably (~50% peak to trough) during spring, winter, and
summer breaks.
All I really have to say about MATLAB is for a piece of software backed by
mi
On Feb 18, 8:51 am, William Stein wrote:
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> At University of Washington, even with a site license, MATLAB costs me
> $100, so I don't have it on my laptop.
> There are limited licenses for students, and I've been told they have
> trouble doing homework assignments, due to
> sharing those licens
On Feb 17, 11:06 pm, daly wrote:
> An interesting article about computational science
> programming:http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101013/full/467775a.html?ref=nf
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> Tim Daly
I find it especially interesting to see the comments about python ...
search on that
web page for each occurrence of
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:36 AM, rjf wrote:
> Many people using Matlab are, I think, using it within some
> organization
> such as a college or an engineering lab. The incremental cost for one
> more Matlab user license is small and probably part of the overhead of
> the organization, and so ther
Hi
Python's barrier-to-entry is the lowest of all the
languages under discussion (in terms of time to learn it).
It is easier to enforce good coding style because much of
it is already integrated with the language... e.g. indented
control structures & loops.
Optimizing-python-with-calling-other
On Feb 18, 7:31 am, William Stein wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:11 PM, rjf wrote:
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> > On Feb 17, 4:49 pm, Matt Goodman wrote:
> >> MATLAB isn't a tool used outside of academia very often.
>
> > I think you are wrong here. I don't have any data to point to though.
> > Do you have any da
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:11 PM, rjf wrote:
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> On Feb 17, 4:49 pm, Matt Goodman wrote:
>> MATLAB isn't a tool used outside of academia very often.
>
> I think you are wrong here. I don't have any data to point to though.
> Do you have any data on this?
No data versus no data.
>> Its licens
An interesting article about computational science programming:
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101013/full/467775a.html?ref=nf
Tim Daly
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On Feb 17, 4:49 pm, Matt Goodman wrote:
> MATLAB isn't a tool used outside of academia very often.
I think you are wrong here. I don't have any data to point to though.
Do you have any data on this?
> Its licensing makes it hard to redistribute code (like to a third party),
> or even run it
MATLAB isn't a tool used outside of academia very often.
Its licensing makes it hard to redistribute code (like to a third party),
or even run it on a couple different workstations in a HPC sense. Its a
great tool for quick and dirty analyses, but overall its a terribly
crafted language for devel
I think the reason "mathematica programming" doesn't return many
results is because it is not usually perceived as a programming
language per se, rather a mathematics software. Because of this, I
think Mathematica (and MATLAB, or any specific-use programming
languages) statistics are bound to be sk
What's amazing is that on IRC the most talked about language is
Python. Next is Haskell. Go figure!
On Feb 17, 12:08 am, Robert Bradshaw
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On 02/16/11 05:29 PM, Eviatar wrote:
Yes, exactly. I don't think many are looking to learn LabView over the
internet (since it serves such a specific purpose), but it is used in
the industry, something that TIOBE can't measure.
Well, they could if they searched for job adverts on job sites. B
Yes, exactly. I don't think many are looking to learn LabView over the
internet (since it serves such a specific purpose), but it is used in
the industry, something that TIOBE can't measure.
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Here is the data:
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
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