Dear sage-devel, sage-nt, and random other victims, The current behaviour of X.dimension() for a scheme X is often either counterintuitive or mathematically wrong. Several people pointed out such problems at Sage Days 14. I would like to give you some examples of this, make a proposal, and point you toward a patch that implements this proposal.
1. Counterintuitive: if X is a scheme, I would expect X.dimension() to give me the absolute dimension of X; however, the current implementation returns "the relative dimension of X over its base scheme" {{{ sage: A1Z = AffineSpace(1, ZZ) sage: A1Z.dimension() 1 }}} 2. Wrong/Inconsistent with the docstring: {{{ sage: R.<x> = ZZ[] sage: X = Spec(R) sage: X.dimension() 2 }}} However, according to the docstring this should be the relative dimension of X over ZZ, which is 1. Comparing the two examples, we also see that Sage currently gives different answers for the dimension of the same algebraic-geometric object, the affine line over ZZ. My proposal is twofold: a) introduce methods dimension_absolute() and dimension_relative() b) make dimension() an alias to dimension_absolute() to match what a Sage newbie would expect from the command Note that this is much less disruptive than it sounds. In fact, if you haven't noticed any of these issues so far, chances are you've been dealing with schemes over fields, for which the absolute and relative dimensions are the same. The problems start when you want to work over more general base rings/schemes. Finally, there is a patch implementing these changes up at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5629 Best, Alex -- Alex Ghitza -- Lecturer in Mathematics -- The University of Melbourne -- Australia -- http://www.ms.unimelb.edu.au/~aghitza/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---