> > Peopled ARE allowed to make genuine backups. Deal with it.
> And those people do themselves a favour if they kept their mouths shut
> about it.
Why, if Chris is (apparently) wrong? Surely it's better to correct him? :)
Paul
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:20:37 +0100 Tue, 20 Apr 99 20:17:50 BST, "Paul
Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why DO you keep PUSHing this thREAD, when the law DEFines that you are
>> wrong and I am right?
>
>Why do I get the feeling you're using a programmers editor?
I don't know what's happening
Some already does ;)
Especially if it happens to be the Atom ;)
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Gale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Date: 20 April 1999 13:35
Subject: Re: New Argument about COPYING (WAS CLOSING ARGUEEMENT ON ->
SimCoupe & protected disks & Copyright )
>
> Okay then, I see where you're coming from. However, if that's alright,
> what's wrong with BACKING UP your current floppy software to a hard
> disk? Why is it so taboo for us to contemplate playing your SAM
> conversions of POP or Lemmings from a hard disk on an emulated SAM? It
> seems like a n
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:07:09 +0100 Tue, 20 Apr 99 18:04:15 BST, "Chris
White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As for advocating Copying Tape to Disk , this was not the case as it stated
>that it was for BACKING UP you current Tape software to Disk. And should not
>be used as a COPYING DEVICE
Okay th
Okay done some digging and ask LOADS of question to allsort's of peeps in
the industry and have come up with the following FACT about "The UK
Copyright (Computer Programs) Regulations 1992" , and have extacted the
following
>Back up Copies (see section 50A)
>Lawful users can make back up copies ev
> Why DO you keep PUSHing this thREAD, when the law DEFines that you are
> wrong and I am right?
Why do I get the feeling you're using a programmers editor?
Paul
--
I find it ironic that many of the people who are misinformed about the
start of the next millennium consistently misspell it.
-- R
> Van: Robert Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Aan: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> Onderwerp: Re: New Argument about COPYING (WAS CLOSING ARGUEEMENT ON
->SimCoupe & protected disks & Copyright )
> Datum: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 7:25
> Chris, just because you don't like or agree with the LAW doesn't mean
it's
Paul Walker wrote:
> > lent, hired, copied or exhibited in public without the express written
> > consent
>
> In public. That refers to (for example) showing a video-tape in a branch of
> Dixons without permission, it's got nowt to do with l
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Chris White wrote:
> For those that think they are doing nothing wrong then please send your Name
> & Address to FAST or ELSPA and please forward me you Prision address so I
> may keep you abreast of Sam News :)
Chris, just because you don't like or agree with the LAW doesn't
> lent, hired, copied or exhibited in public without the express written consent
In public. That refers to (for example) showing a video-tape in a branch of
Dixons without permission, it's got nowt to do with lending a CD to a friend.
Paul
-
At 4:44 pm +0100 20/4/99, Chris White wrote:
>For those that think they are doing nothing wrong then please send your Name
>& Address to FAST or ELSPA and please forward me you Prision address so I
>may keep you abreast of Sam News :)
BECAUSE I DON'T NEED TO. Section 50A of The UK Copyright (Comp
> POW! STOP trying TO argue the law! The law is NOT ON your side!!
> Why DO you keep PUSHing this thREAD, when the law DEFines that you are
> wrong and I am right?
>
> Mutter, mutter, mutter, mutter, mutter.
>
> Andrew
For those that think they are doing nothing wrong then please send your Name
&
At 1:05 pm +0100 20/4/99, Chris White wrote:
>@ the end of the day is any of this really getting us anywhere
Correct. So when will you STOP perpetuating the thREAD??
>, some peeps
>think its there right to BACKUP their software
The law of England says you are *allowed* TO. It says so specifical
Frode Tenneboe wrote:
> > > I'm getting quite confused about this whole thing are we saying that
> > > we can't transfer floppy software to hard drive, cos if so, that's
> > > completely crap. If you ask me, there's a halfway house between
> > > "backing-up" and "copying" - and that's "transfe
> > You are only alloud to run software on the media you purchased it. That
> > music , you are not alloud to copy from CD to Tape even for your own use
,
> > like in your car etc, this is Illegal copying off media.
> >
>
> So does that mean SAM software will be coming on Hard Drives in the
> futur
> > I'm getting quite confused about this whole thing are we saying that
> > we can't transfer floppy software to hard drive, cos if so, that's
> > completely crap. If you ask me, there's a halfway house between
> > "backing-up" and "copying" - and that's "transferring". If I buy
> > some softw
> You are only alloud to run software on the media you purchased it. That
> music , you are not alloud to copy from CD to Tape even for your own use ,
> like in your car etc, this is Illegal copying off media.
>
So does that mean SAM software will be coming on Hard Drives in the
future?
> > The Disciple was stolen from Bruce , and he never got any money from
them
> > this is why the PlusD can about.
> > As for advocating Copying Tape to Disk , this was not the case as it
stated
> > that it was for BACKING UP you current Tape software to Disk. And should
not
> > be used as a COPYIN
> > to EEC law, hence also EU, the point of copyright on anything is so
> > that no one else but you can make money on whatever you 'invent',
> >
>
> This is generally how I understand it, but I do think copyright
> is also there to ensure that the owner gets as much profit as
> he can from each i
> to EEC law, hence also EU, the point of copyright on anything is so
> that no one else but you can make money on whatever you 'invent',
>
This is generally how I understand it, but I do think copyright
is also there to ensure that the owner gets as much profit as
he can from each individual. Tak
Based on what I know of Norwegian law and the ongoing normalization
to EEC law, hence also EU, the point of copyright on anything is so
that no one else but you can make money on whatever you 'invent',
being a new computer or an algorithm, unless you explicedly say it
is OK. Some countries, which h
> The Disciple was stolen from Bruce , and he never got any money from them
> this is why the PlusD can about.
> As for advocating Copying Tape to Disk , this was not the case as it stated
> that it was for BACKING UP you current Tape software to Disk. And should not
> be used as a COPYING DEVICE
>
>maybe its like some walkie-talkies(1), i.e., its not illegal to own
>them, sell them, make them or whatever just use them is it
>actually illegal to do it? i mean what law are you breaking by simply
>producing a bit of circuitry? using it would be illegal though, cos
>then the purpose
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >MGT
> >used to advocate backing up tapes to disk (or disc - for Bob) and
> >certain publications would give out information on how to hack awkward
> >programs so that they would work from disk. But there appears to be an
> >unforgivable differ
> The SAM was built on the success of a wonderful backup (read pirate)
> device called the Plus D (based on the earlier DisCiple - did I get
> the funky spelling/case right Bob?). Because the speccy was near the
> end of its life as a money making games platform (due to the Amigas
> and Ataris, and
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:15:45 +0100 Mon, 19 Apr 99 23:30:52 BST,
"Richard Jowett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Be careful with some of the HD's on sale. Especialy the ones marked
>untested as I got 2 at about £8 each and only one works and that has a lot
>of sector errors. I reformated it but that
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:28:35 +0100 Mon, 19 Apr 99 23:31:01 BST, Martin
Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>maybe its like some walkie-talkies(1), i.e., its not illegal to own
>them, sell them, make them or whatever just use them is it
>actually illegal to do it? i mean what law are y
..but if anyone is interested in using up spare processor time and all
that to crack some encryption type things... take a look at:
www.distributed.net ...download the client for your computer get
your password, then joing the Prof. Challis Most Excellent UK Team...
just cos we're lagging and
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