Hi steve and all,

Some kind of security countermeasures dont require any budget, for 
example saying people not to write down their passwords instead of their 
minds.

I think, you first have to develop a basic outline of a security policy. Set 
up a budget, and propose it to the management. Lots of products have 
very discount rates for academic institutions.

have a nice day.
Altug
Security consultant


Quoting Benz Jessica-p53552 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Steve,
> I would start with looking at ISO17799.
> 
> Jessica
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Oh Dear, Where to start?!
> 
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to
> get some feedback from some of you with appropriate
> experience in the field of network security and policy development.
> 
> I am an senior at RIT studying (essentially) systems administration. My 
main
> focus and priority has been computer security and policy development. I
> recently took a internship with a small government office helping out 
with
> computer administration tasks. Upon arrival, I decided it would be fun to 
do
> a windows update to see what sort of things would come up for my PC. 
Low and
> behold, there were over 40 critical updates, driver updates, and 
recommended
> updates. 
> 
> Right off the bat this triggered the feeling that
> there was absolutely no security or update plans in
> place at this particular organization. I quickly
> addressed the issue, and have been working to draft a comprehensive 
security
> policy and implement technical controls.
> 
> What I need advice on is the following: If you were
> introduced to a mixed network (literally all versions
> of windows since 3.1 and mac systems) that have no
> updates, backups, or patches installed... connected to
> a network with only a basic NAT table and no other
> security... with not even anti-virus software
> enabled... with no user policies or disaster plans in
> place... with unprotected netbios shares everywhere...
> where would you start the process of building some
> sort of security solution?
> 
> I mean, I've seen passwords on monitors, shared
> accounts, open public ports (even the wiring cabinet
> was unlocked in plain view of passbys to the
> building). I've been tasked with creating the security
> policies relating to internet use, network and phone
> use, passwords, physical security, backup/disaster
> plans, antivirus, incident response, email
> use/protection, and whatever else needs done. This
> wouldnt be so bad normally I guess, but there is
> virtually no budget allocated to help for this project
> and I have approximately 3 months to do it. To make
> matters worse, I am also responsible for systems
> admin, network admin, tech support, programming, and
> whatever other tasks may need to be done in the
> meantime.
> 
> So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where
> would you start first? What would you consider to be
> the most important things to be implemented? I am
> literally working from ground zero here... heh!
> 
> Thank so much in advance ;-)
> 
> Steve Frank
> 
> ----------------
> President SPARSA
> Security Practices and Research Student Association
> Rochester Institute of Technology
> 
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