Re: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-24 Thread Gene Yoo
Duane H. Hesser wrote: On 19-Feb-2003 John Brightwell wrote: Are there any sites out there with the facts and figures about internal exploits and cautionary tales about disgruntled employees or IT savvy nighttime cleaners? It's hard to find such information, since companies are reluctant to make

RE: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-24 Thread Chris Santerre
ernal security is definitely different, and very gray. > -Original Message- > From: Chris Travers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: "It's ok we're behind a firewall" > > > My

RE: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-24 Thread James Liddil
> > "It's ok we're behind a firewall" > > The response I received from a DBA when I forwarded an > email detailing a security vulnerability in a > particular database application. > > And not the first time I have heard this response when > ca

Re: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-24 Thread Chris Travers
My own perspective is this--- Internal security is just *different.* This is one of the reasons for the firewall. If a company didn't have a firewall, I am still convinced that they would be at *far greater* risk to external rather than internal threats. But that doesn't address the following i

Re: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-24 Thread David Vertie
of course; mostly because they don't think they need a re-education I guess. My two cents. From: Alessandro Bottonelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: "It's ok we're behind a firewall" Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:10:37 +0100 On Wednesday 19 F

Re: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-22 Thread Alessandro Bottonelli
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 11:58, John Brightwell wrote: > "It's ok we're behind a firewall" > I have been hearing this from customers or prospective customers since the press (many years ago) and Hollywood begun to address the "sexy" side of computer crim

RE: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-22 Thread Ben Schorr
> 1. Still a large majority of computer crime (data theft, > damage etc) is caused by people who have access to internal > systems ... is there anywhere that I can get facts and > figures to support this? Check with the FBI. > 2. In an average company it's not so difficult to gain > physical

RE: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-22 Thread Duane H. Hesser
On 19-Feb-2003 John Brightwell wrote: > > Are there any sites out there with the facts and > figures about internal exploits and cautionary tales > about disgruntled employees or IT savvy nighttime cleaners? > It's hard to find such information, since companies are reluctant to make it public.

re: "It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-20 Thread H C
> "It's ok we're behind a firewall" Well, depending on the issue, that may be a valid answer, particularly when qualified w/ other security mechanisms. > 1. Still a large majority of computer crime (data theft > damage etc) is caused by people who have access to &g

"It's ok we're behind a firewall"

2003-02-20 Thread John Brightwell
"It's ok we're behind a firewall" The response I received from a DBA when I forwarded an email detailing a security vulnerability in a particular database application. And not the first time I have heard this response when cautioning about security vulnerabilities. I want t