Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-18 Thread Jac
Actually you may want to revisit the licensing. I quote from the licensing you agree to from the download site as related to downloading all of their freeware tools. Permitted use: 2.1 The Tools may be downloaded for personal and/or commercial use. 2.2 You may not modify, reverse engineer, make

RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-17 Thread Greg van der Gaast
intentions are purely honest. My 2 cents... Regards, Greg van der Gaast Ordina Public West Security Services -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ronstevens@;hushmail.com] Verzonden: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:38 AM Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: RE: Foundstone -

Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-17 Thread Ryan Parr
Please disregard this. I spoke too soon. My soapbox have been dusty... - Original Message - From: "Ryan Parr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public >

Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-16 Thread Jac
Fascinating idea. Let's see, I give it away for free but if some one else uses it and sells it, then I'm being selfish if I don't want them doing it. I see no similarities with M$ at all. Get the tools from foundstone for free. If someone wants to sell foundstones intellectual properties, then the

RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-15 Thread ronstevens
g the vendors creating my security software can grow up and work on better security solutions instead of petty lawsuits. -Ron CISSP,CCNE | To: SECURITY-BASICS | Subject: Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public | Date: Oct 10 2002 6:14PM | Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I woul

RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-15 Thread Bill Martin
one simple act. -bill Martin- -Original Message- From: Greg van der Gaast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public In my humble opinion, it looks like Foundstone is being a greedy l

Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-15 Thread Roy Pait
I think you read it wrong - As I read through the briefs ( http://www.ntobjectives.com/images/TRO.pdf http://www.ntobjectives.com/images/StuartMcClure_Declaration.pdf http://www.ntobjectives.com/images/Plaintiffs_Memorandum_Pages1-10.pdf) what I saw was a company suing for trade secret violatio

Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-15 Thread Ryan Parr
MAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:44 AM Subject: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public > > > What does the community think of this news - > http://www.ntobjectives.com/pressrelease_lawsuit.html? Seems big > Foundstone is trying to keep others

RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-15 Thread security
: Greg van der Gaast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public In my humble opinion, it looks like Foundstone is being a greedy little hypocrite. What they are doing is unethical to

RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-11 Thread Greg van der Gaast
OTECTED] Onderwerp: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public What does the community think of this news - http://www.ntobjectives.com/pressrelease_lawsuit.html? Seems big Foundstone is trying to keep others from releasing free tools to the community. Maybe I'm misinterpreting, b

Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-11 Thread Brian Heacox
But doesn't Foundstone preach the proliferation of these tools only because they have Foundstone's copyright on them? It seems they're acting a lot like M$. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > What does the community think of this news - > http://www.ntobjectives.com/pressrelease_lawsuit.html? >

Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-11 Thread Jac
NTObjectives sold all their intellectual properties and software to Foundstone. Now they come out and try to sell similar products on line. Sounds like there may be something odd about who owns what. Foundstones TRO and the other documents state that this is about violations of intellectual materi

RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-11 Thread security
AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public What does the community think of this news - http://www.ntobjectives.com/pressrelease_lawsuit.html? Seems big Foundstone is trying to keep others from releasing free tools to the community. Maybe I&#

Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-11 Thread John_Buhler
ee to release the toolkit, after they prove to the court systems, the code is original and theirs. JB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/10/2002 11:44:41 AM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public What does the community think of this

RE: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-11 Thread CHRIS GRABENSTEIN
ginal Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:45 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public | | | | |What does the community think of this news - | |http://www.ntobjectives.com/pressrelease_lawsuit

Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

2002-10-10 Thread bettyford5555
What does the community think of this news - http://www.ntobjectives.com/pressrelease_lawsuit.html? Seems big Foundstone is trying to keep others from releasing free tools to the community. Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but didn't they used to talk about the benefits of providing these typ