bject: Re: RE: Disk Wiping Utilities
Here is another way to do it. Take out the platters and put them in a vice
where you can easily get to the face of the platter. Then, take a grinder
(electric or air powered.. really doesn't matter) and grind the surface
off... then discard. I know it is not
On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 09:09:33PM -0800, Muhammad Faisal Rauf Danka wrote:
> Use Linux utility "shred" .
> and your problem is solved.
From http://www.linuxsecurity.com/feature_stories/data-hiding-forensics.html:
The important fact to note is that when empty space is wiped, slack space
for all
This is a tool, not free, but very effective. It's called expert ereaser,
and is manufactured by a norwegian company:
http://www.ibas.com/
Take a look at their site, these guys are some of the worlds best on disk
wiping, so they should know what it takes to make a godd wiping utility alså
-Mag
Allen Chang schrieb:
>
> There's a problem with that too. Advanced recovery services probably can
> still retrieve some data from a HDD with 2 holes in it.
Jepp...
Also if the HDD is partly burned, professionals can recover the data on
the not-burned areas...
> What's probably
> desired for tot
> if indeed there is topsecret data on the hard drive, i personally wouldn't
> even risk trying to erase the HD, i would simply open it up and throw all
> of it in the campfire the next time i go camping or make a special trip.
Actually, throwing the HD in the campfire probably woun't help you.
much
safer if you are in a city environment.
My $.02
Steve
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> Ru
ithout poking
myself with it.
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Rumor has it that certain three-letter organizations can recover data
from dis
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>Rumor has it that certain three-letter organizations can recover data
>from disks even after that data
On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 02:06:44PM -0800, John S. Lyons wrote:
> I've done dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda in the past. What is the
> advantage of using /dev/ramdom?
There are ways to recover over-written data if you have physical access
to the drive. Some involve removing the platters and checking
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:24:12PM -0800, Craig Skelton wrote:
> If you are using a real operating system (*nix) then you can simply
> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda
/dev/random is really slow to fill with entropy. urandom is more than
good enough for this, and doesn't run out the way /dev/rand
There's a problem with that too. Advanced recovery services probably can
still retrieve some data from a HDD with 2 holes in it. What's probably
desired for total data wiping is a combination of overwriting, magnetic
erasure(degausser) and then physical destruction (incinerator sounds
like the bes
Mr. Daniele and I have disagreed on the finer points of this topic in the
past. HOWEVER, John is right on target and his advice here should be listened
to carefully. I have seen a few posts recommending products that don't even
pass muster with DOD standards. If one is looking for a software dis
I've done dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda in the past. What is the
advantage of using /dev/ramdom?
Thanks,
John
Craig Skelton wrote:
> If you are using a real operating system (*nix) then you can simply
> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda
>
> Do that a few times.
>
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To: Dan Williamson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 26 March 2002 23:14, Dan Williamson wrote:
> I am looking for a good utility to erase all hard drives
> in a machine to a DOD standard. I would prefer a
> FREE utility as this is a government ag
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Subject: Re: Disk Wiping Utilities
if indeed there is topsecret data on the hard drive, i personally wouldn't
even risk trying to erase the HD, i would simply open it up and throw all of
it in the campfire the next time i go camping or make a special trip. s
s, including myself. |
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> without a doubt. I hav
If you are using a real operating system (*nix) then you can simply
dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda
Do that a few times.
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PowerQuest does not sell single licenses for this product.
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 11:54, Scott A Runnels wrote:
> Look into DataGone, it's not free, but it is the NSA/DoD standard for
> removal of information. Once datagone hits it, there is no getting it
> back.
g 27 maart 2002 21:38
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> Subject: Re: Disk Wiping Utilities
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>
> I am not sure but I thought that a format then fdisk would do the
job
> .wouldn't it ??? correct me guys ..plz
>
> Bisso
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On Tuesday 26 March 2002 23:14, Dan Williamson wrote:
> I am looking for a good utility to erase all hard drives
> in a machine to a DOD standard. I would prefer a
> FREE utility as this is a government agency and I try
> to keep costs down.
Check out Eraser (http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/) for
Advanced recovery will still be able to get some data back
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From: Bassam ALHUSSEIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 27 maart 2002 21:38
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I am not sure but I thought that a format then
This topic had been discussed at great length in a previous thread -
unclassified disk sanitizers; to sum it up, no a simple format will not
ensure that data cannot be recovered. What is needed is a tool that will
overwrite every physical sector of a drive with data, from the very start
to the ve
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> From: Bassam ALHUSSEIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 27 mars 2002 15:38
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dan Williamson
> Su
book out titled 'Ques Guide to Data
Recovery'...Oh and FWIW, I use GDISK set for seven passes and I cannot
recover anything after that :)
Brad
From: "Bassam ALHUSSEIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dan Williamson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Se
I use a Low Level Format utility that is free from Maxtor. I have
used it many times and many different HD's and all have been very
successful.
Its FREE. you can download here:
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10106-100-868553.html?
tag=st.dl.10001-103-1.lst-7-1.868553
peace,
dude
>
>
5:22 PM
To: 'Dan Williamson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Disk Wiping Utilities
If you want to REALLY erase all data... You'll have to overwrite all
sectors on your hard disk a few times. I would spend the money on a
product like PGP to make sure you know its r
AM
To: 'Dan Williamson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Disk Wiping Utilities
Gdisk if you have symantec ghost. Use the command
gdisk [disk number] /del /all /dodwipe
This runs a DOD wipe of the specified hard drive
Tim Donahue
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From: Dan Williamson [mai
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:14:28PM -, Dan Williamson wrote:
> I am looking for a good utility to erase all hard drives
> in a machine to a DOD standard. I would prefer a
> FREE utility as this is a government agency and I try
> to keep costs down.
>
> I have read that Norton Wipeinfo, BCWi
Rare earth magnet ;) Or try pgpwipe. It has variable levels of encryption
passes before the wipe.
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From: "Dan Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: Disk Wiping Utilities
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>
> I am looking for a good
I am not sure but I thought that a format then fdisk would do the job
wouldn't it ???
correct me guys ..plz
Bisso
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From: Dan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:14 AM
Subject: Disk Wiping Utilities
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>
> I am
Try AutoClave
http://staff.washington.edu/jdlarios/autoclave/
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>I am looking for a good utility to erase all hard drives
>in a machine to a DOD standard. I would prefer a
>FREE utility as this is a government agency and I try
>to keep costs down.
>
>I have read th
Look into DataGone, it's not free, but it is the NSA/DoD standard for
removal of information. Once datagone hits it, there is no getting it
back.
Scott A Runnels
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:14:28PM -, Dan Williamson wrote:
>
>
> I am looking for a good utility to erase all hard drives
>
If you want to REALLY erase all data... You'll have to overwrite all
sectors on your hard disk a few times. I would spend the money on a
product like PGP to make sure you know its really wiped out
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From: Dan Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: dinsdag 26
Gdisk if you have symantec ghost. Use the command
gdisk [disk number] /del /all /dodwipe
This runs a DOD wipe of the specified hard drive
Tim Donahue
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