RE: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-28 Thread John Horne
On 23-May-2002 at 21:28:19 Jim Grossl wrote: > Are your saying that you have or are thinking of configuring > your firewall to filter out packets with non-privileged ports in the > *source* address? > Yes, we have... > If you could I would think this would shutdown a great deal of incoming > tr

Re: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-28 Thread John
On Friday 24 May 2002 02:15, Michael Doughty wrote: > > Yes, and it is the sending port that is blocked. That is my point. > > If a remote mail server sends a message to our mail server using a > > non-privileged port (i.e. the port they use to send the msg to us), > > and we block that port, then

Re: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-24 Thread Michael Doughty
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Horne Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:57:44 +0100 (BST) > On 23-May-2002 at 01:11:56 Doughty, Michael wrote: > > > > Yes, and it is the sending port that is blocked. That is my point. If a > remote mail server sends a message to our mail server using a non-privileg

RE: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-24 Thread Jim Grossl
-Original Message- From: John Horne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: non-privileged port selection - how is it done? On 23-May-2002 at 12:56:33 Larry Mitchell wrote: > For a service like SMTP and POP the ports the serv

RE: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-23 Thread Cushing, David
John, > Given a service such as e-mail which uses a non-privileged > port to send mail out, are there are any specific mechanisms as > to which port is selected? This will no doubt be dependant on the > O/S, but is it really a random numbered port, the first > non-privileged port it knows is

RE: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-23 Thread Doughty, Michael
You are missing something. Email has a specific port associated with various functions. For instance, SMTP is port 25. This port is the one that the *server listens* on. Meaning if you want to send some mail to that server (A), your server(B) chooses a random port on it's side(X), and connects

Re: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-23 Thread Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 02:28:00PM +0100, John Horne wrote: > This will no doubt be dependant on the O/S, but is it really a random > numbered port, the first non-privileged port it knows is not in use, or does > the O/S have any other mechanism for selecting the port? Well, it really depends on t

RE: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-23 Thread Ruigrok van der Werven, Jeroen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, > Given a service such as e-mail which uses a non-privileged port to > send mail out, are there are any specific mechanisms as to which > port is selected? This will no doubt be dependant on the O/S, but > is it really a random numbered port, t

RE: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-23 Thread John Horne
On 23-May-2002 at 01:11:56 Doughty, Michael wrote: > You are missing something. Email has a specific port associated > with various functions. For instance, SMTP is port 25. This port > is the one that the *server listens* on. Meaning if you want to > send some mail to that server (A), your se

Re: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-23 Thread John Horne
On 23-May-2002 at 12:56:33 Larry Mitchell wrote: > For a service like SMTP and POP the ports the servers use to talk are > actually VERY specific to my knowledge. Either being 25 for SMTP or 110 > for POP. Keep in mind that the random numbered ports are on the ORIGIN > end not the destination. I

Re: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-23 Thread Larry Mitchell
John, For a service like SMTP and POP the ports the servers use to talk are actually VERY specific to my knowledge. Either being 25 for SMTP or 110 for POP. Keep in mind that the random numbered ports are on the ORIGIN end not the destination. In other words Your machien/server would connect

Re: non-privileged port selection - how is it done?

2002-05-23 Thread John Horne
On 23-May-2002 at 00:27:11 Jay D. Dyson wrote: >> My problem is that given that a site has a firewall blocking specific >> non-privileged ports (e.g. ) against all IP traffic (both as a source >> port or a destination port), if a genuine site tries to e-mail them a >> message and the sending h