Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-12-03 Thread Chris Berry
From: Jason Yates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But don't think banning aim is easy as a firewall rule. Let me give >you a personal example. A previous employer of mine, decided >blocking instant messaging was a good idea. They simply blocked, on >the firewall, the default port AIM uses, problem fixed

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-12-02 Thread Sumit Dhar
> Is it possible to use the Jabber IM if you only have access to the internet > via port 80 (www) through a MS Proxy server? Does anybody know of any IM > clients that will work in this configuration? As far as I remember, the port on which Jabber runs can be configured using jabber.xml file. Als

RE: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-29 Thread ALBEE,RUSSELL. S FC2 (CV63 CS5)
: Thursday, November 28, 2002 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zinger Subject: Re: Survey: Chat and IM > Something to think about is setting up an internal IM server as a compromise. In fact, we had a similar issue at my place of worl. We finally decided to go with Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) It i

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-28 Thread Sumit Dhar
> Something to think about is setting up an internal IM server as a compromise. In fact, we had a similar issue at my place of worl. We finally decided to go with Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) It is a pretty full featured IM product and has support for SSL and Encrypted one on one chats. With

RE: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-28 Thread John Canty
/John -Original Message- From: ONEILL David J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 11/25/2002 4:56 PM To: Receipt notification requested; Receipt notification requested Cc: Subject: Re: Survey: Chat a

RE: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-28 Thread Kuriscak, Ronald
3 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Survey: Chat and IM Hi, We currently are allowing web based chat and instant messaging. I know that there are lots of security issues involved with its usage. The IT folks are telling me that it is a common practice in the industry. I have a hard time belie

RE: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-28 Thread Chris Santerre
J'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Survey: Chat and IM Every administrator I have ever met restricts that type of traffic because it is a security risk and for bandwidth reasons. For instance, Yahoo messenger maintains stale connections when the other person goes offline, AIM ha

RE: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-28 Thread ChristopherShorter
: 'tony toni' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc:

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-27 Thread Zinger
We use the AIM protocol (although with some restrictions - no inbound file transfers - and Trillian, which supports encryption), and it's a valuable part of our business tools. If we were to remove this feature, it would be a noticeable detriment to employee's productivity. The most important co

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-27 Thread Charles Otstot
Toni, David... Have you (and your respective staffs) considered a compromise? I don't know precisely how widespread business IM use is, but it is an expanding market. If your end-users (and by extension, IT staff) see it as a business requirement, it seems to me that the "battle" has already been

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On 25/11/02 13:53 -0800, Fred Hoot wrote: > We have outlawed all instant messaging products and purchased a private > messaging software (Active Messenger). It is internal and can be accessed > via our VPN connections between offices. Any reason not to use Jabber? Devdas Bhagat

RE: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread LEHMANN, TODD
through. Todd Lehmann Systems Analyst I VPN Subject Matter Expert -Original Message- From: ONEILL David J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Survey: Chat and IM Good Luck ... We got shot down in Flames

RE: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread Robinson, Sonja
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Survey: Chat and IM > > > > Hi, > > We currently are allowing web based chat and instant > messaging. I know that > there are lots of security issues involved with its usage. > The

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread Chris Berry
From: "tony toni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We currently are allowing web based chat and instant messaging. I know that there are lots of security issues involved with its usage. The IT folks are telling me that it is a common practice in the industry. I have a hard time believing this and this is o

Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread tony toni
Hi, We currently are allowing web based chat and instant messaging. I know that there are lots of security issues involved with its usage. The IT folks are telling me that it is a common practice in the industry. I have a hard time believing this and this is one battle I would like to take

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread Todd Plesco
My suggestion is to take the low road and perform some security awareness by educating the user base that web chat and IM are not encrypted and may be subject to monitoring by the company and anyone outside of the company network willing to run a packet sniffer. On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:56:25PM

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread Todd Plesco
Here is a good article from Security Strategies: http://esj.com/columns/print.asp?EditorialsID=116 On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:56:25PM -0800, ONEILL David J wrote: > Good Luck ... We got shot down in Flames, no matter how we packaged it. > > David J. O'Neill > NEDSS - IS7 > Parkway Bldg., 2nd Flo

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread Jason Yates
I think if you ban file transfer connections and direct connections. You should be alright from a security standpoint. Not really sure how you could do it though =/. I know most of the java web clients support these features, so I really don't see any security differences between the regular

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread Johannes Ullrich
> We currently are allowing web based chat and instant messaging. I know > that there are lots of security issues involved with its usage. The IT > folks are telling me that it is a common practice in the industry. I > have a hard time believing this and this is one battle I would like to > ta

RE: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread Fred Hoot
02 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Survey: Chat and IM Hi, We currently are allowing web based chat and instant messaging. I know that there are lots of security issues involved with its usage. The IT folks are telling me that it is a common practice in the industry. I have a hard

Re: Survey: Chat and IM

2002-11-26 Thread ONEILL David J
Good Luck ... We got shot down in Flames, no matter how we packaged it. David J. O'Neill NEDSS - IS7 Parkway Bldg., 2nd Floor Phone: (503) 378-2101 ext. 364 FAX: (503) 378-2102 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/02 01:48PM >>> Hi, We currently are allowing web based chat and instant messaging. I