Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate

2005-11-01 Thread Jeremy Ingle
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:04 AM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: RE: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Dan, who makes the Alpha V2 425 head? Dean

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2005-11-01 Thread jhm
Title: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate I wondered why my Alpha sales were so slow...:-( I fixed the bad link that was on my home page. John shoptalk     -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:14:06 -0500 Subject: RE: RE

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2005-11-01 Thread fjbold1
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.comSent: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:14:06 -0500Subject: RE: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate The V2-425 is a great head (but pricey, as mentioned). http://www.clubmaker-online.com/alpha.html 5% off for shoptalkers. John

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2005-11-01 Thread jhm
suppliers, including Shoptalk's host. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:04 AM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: RE: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Dan, who makes the Alpha V2 425 head?

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2005-11-01 Thread Dan Neubecker
L PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:04 AM > To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com > Subject: RE: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > > > Dan, who makes the Alpha V2 425 head? > Dean >

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2005-11-01 Thread fjbold1
Must be Alpha Golf. I did find some info here along with a $199 price tag! ouch!!http://www.mmgolf.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browse&id=160965&pageid=37 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.comSent: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:03:52 +Subject: RE: RE: ShopTalk:

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2005-11-01 Thread dhsym
Dan, who makes the Alpha V2 425 head? Dean

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2005-10-31 Thread Ed Reeder
Mark, Interesting about the Cleveland loft.  I've misplaced my reference, but Ping acknowledged that they purposefully mark the soles of their drivers with stronger lofts than they actually are.  The realize that many of their male customer's egos would get in the way of getting a good fit. /E

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2005-10-31 Thread Mark681137
Tom, I had a similar thing happen to me a few months ago, I had a Wishon 915 CFE, 420cc, 12 degree in the bag for over 2 years, fantastic club, every new driver came out I'd try and none ever impressed me enough to consider changing. A member of my regular saturday foursome came with a new driver,

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2005-10-31 Thread Lloyd Hackman
; From: Andre Cantin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/31/2005 9:47:10 AM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > > Which shafts Lloyd. This method does not seem to take under consideration > the tip stiffness nor the torque(sorry Dave T not the proper term

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2005-10-31 Thread Andre Cantin
manufacturers. The 15 different shafts could have the same starting butt frequency but all will perform differently. André. - Original Message - From: "Lloyd Hackman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate

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2005-10-31 Thread Lloyd Hackman
system but the OEM's can not figure how to work shaft customization into their production system's. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Andre Cantin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/31/2005 7:30:22 AM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > >

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2005-10-31 Thread Dan Neubecker
It is the best feeling driver head that I have tried over the years. If you try one, you might want to consider the 12º version. Dan -Original Message- From: Tom and Donna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:24 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: RE: ShopTalk:

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2005-10-31 Thread Andre Cantin
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:38 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > > *** Butt frequency reflects the response of the shaft in getting back to > straight and square in the first frequency mode. The shaft is loaded as a > pure cantilever b

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2005-10-30 Thread Lloyd Hackman
and Donna To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: 10/30/2005 6:45:27 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Sorry Tom, did not mean to get you all fired up and I do understand what you are saying.  I guess I put to much trust in the big name brand club makers to have a close to

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
GolfSmith is where I buy my supplies, tape, grips, etc. . .   I have not as yet ordered from Tom W but that is in order as the gentleman that is teaching me club fitting was one of his students and chosen Club Maker of the Year once.  I feel like I am in good hands. Ed Reeder wrote: Wh

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2005-10-30 Thread Ed Reeder
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Tom, Respectfully, I have to put Wishon in an entirely different level than any other company I'm aware of.  I wouldn't even mention Wishon and Golfsmith in the same sentence.  Golfsmi

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2005-10-30 Thread tflan
me to think of it.   TFlan   \- Original Message - From: Ed Reeder To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Tom,Respectfully, I have to put Wishon in an entirely different level than an

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2005-10-30 Thread tflan
Not "fired up" at all. Just trying to help.   TFlan   - Original Message - From: Tom and Donna To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Sorry Tom, did not mean

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2005-10-30 Thread Ed Reeder
will work well . . . until the check clears.   TFlan - Original Message ----- From: Tom and Donna To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Act

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
October 30, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Actually I am not looking for a clone but more for a head that responds like the Cobra at contact with the ball.  I have never had much luck hitting with the new larger club heads.  One of my Saturday foursome sh

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2005-10-30 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Andre I would like to comment on a couple of your statements, see below ***. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Andre Cantin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/30/2005 11:15:54 AM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > > Secondary to you Lloyd b

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2005-10-30 Thread tflan
any club will work well . . . until the check clears.   TFlan - Original Message - From: Tom and Donna To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate Actually I am not looking for a

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
05 9:23 AM Subject: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate   -- Where is it okay to be teed off, tote a six-iron, shoot birdies, and if you're under par it's a great day?

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2005-10-30 Thread Andre Cantin
: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate   Thanks guys for the comments on the Cobra, I appreciate you taking the time to answer.  I can not disagree with either of you as I am still learning the intricate details of making a perfect club.  Well lets just say fitting a new

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom Barnett
unday, October 30, 2005 2:50 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: RE: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate   Afternoon Tom, The loft on this club is 10.5°.  I just finished hitting a dozen balls in my yard and eleven were at least 240 yrds long and within a fairway width of fifty yards.

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
n too! One month FREE spam protection at www.cloudmark.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom and Donna Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 11:24 AM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alte

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
Thanks Arnie!  I needed that bit of encouragement.  I have taken a lot of notes over the last couple of years reading all the postings, referrals to articles at various online addresses, and at the suggestion of many have stuck my neck out to try a lot of what I have studied.  I have never look

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2005-10-30 Thread Arniesclubs
In a message dated 10/30/05 12:26:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am still learning the intricate details of making a perfect club.  A life long study! Then along comes another customer with different requirements! There are no pat answers, just a wealth of exp

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom Barnett
D] On Behalf Of Tom and Donna Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 11:24 AM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate   Thanks guys for the comments on the Cobra, I appreciate you taking the time to answer.  I can not disagree with either of you as I am still learnin

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2005-10-30 Thread tflan
ut at half the price." You'll build it and they'll bitch . . . guarantee ya ;-)   TFlan     - Original Message - From: Tom and Donna To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:23 AM Subject: Re: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate  

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2005-10-30 Thread Tom and Donna
Thanks guys for the comments on the Cobra, I appreciate you taking the time to answer.  I can not disagree with either of you as I am still learning the intricate details of making a perfect club.  Well lets just say fitting a new club for someone.  There is no doubt that the club, regardless o

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2005-10-30 Thread Andre Cantin
olved 1/2 the equation. Andre > > - Original Message - > From: "Lloyd Hackman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > > > > Andre > > > > I do not

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2005-10-30 Thread Lloyd Hackman
> [Original Message] > From: Andre Cantin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/30/2005 9:22:52 AM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > > Lloyd. It was the head.This past summer I borrowed a Cobra 290 SS with a > precision lite steel shaft. I

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2005-10-30 Thread Andre Cantin
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate > Was it the head or was it the shaft frequency that was a better fit for > your swing? Find out what frequency that club was and build another club > to the same frequency and se

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2005-10-30 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Was it the head or was it the shaft frequency that was a better fit for your swing? Find out what frequency that club was and build another club to the same frequency and see what happens. My guess is it was not the head. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Tom and Donna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > T

Re: ShopTalk: Looking for an Alternate

2005-10-30 Thread Andre Cantin
My opinion on cobra heads and extra distance. Cobra heads play weaker than the stated loft. They are also for the most parts closed face and draw biased. The extra 25 yards came from you hitting the ball straighter instead of going right on you. Just my .02 A. - Original Message - From: "T