Re: [RCSE] Contest Format? Politics???????

2008-01-11 Thread Craig Allen
Last time I checked this was a very conservative idea perpetuated by ignorant soccer moms living beyond their means behind gates in the burbs... No? Craig... PS. How did Politics get into Contest Format and uniform launching ideas ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The "level playing field" is

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format - COMPETITION - Nagel delete

2008-01-11 Thread Hilaunch
In a message dated 1/11/2008 4:11:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This modern generation seems to think everybody has to win. Cheat if necessary but win. I don't feel that way. Winning isn't necessary but competition is. Great statements, but I think the

[RCSE] TD Fuse Tail sold

2008-01-11 Thread ivanbrian
Sold Thanks folks. Brian Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email

[RCSE] paging: mike lachowski

2008-01-11 Thread Tom Copp
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Fw: [RCSE] TD fuse and tail for "sail"

2008-01-11 Thread ivanbrian
Sorry if this was HTML instead of plain text. Brian - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: [RCSE] TD fuse and tail for "sail" Hi Folks I picked up a NIB Thermal Dancer. I really only wanted a wing and WR, bu

[RCSE] TD fuse and tail for "sail"

2008-01-11 Thread ivanbrian
Hi Folks I picked up a NIB Thermal Dancer. I really only wanted a wing and WR, but this seemed to be the only way to get one. So I would like to sell the fuze parts. It is the fuse/Pod. CF boom, the CF control rods, tow hook on the mount assembly, bagged elevator/stab with the CF V mount, bagg

Re: ***SPAMTAGPTD: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Jeff Steifel
Too bad Tom, This has been at a very good thread. Different ideas have been presented, hopefully some of the opinions hit there mark. Also what's nice is that people are talking. It's been a while since that happened. Tom Nagel wrote: So far I have deleted approximately 793 RCSE messages o

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format New topic

2008-01-11 Thread Denny Zech
I was thinking about stretching out the wingspan on my skeeter to make it a 2 meter.. Denny Tom Nagel wrote: So far I have deleted approximately 793 RCSE messages on the topic of "Contest Format," without reading any of them after the first one or two. How about a new thread? H

[RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Tom Nagel
So far I have deleted approximately 793 RCSE messages on the topic of "Contest Format," without reading any of them after the first one or two. How about a new thread? How many RCSE readers out there are deleting all the RCSE messages captioned "Contest Format" without reading them.

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Chuck Anderson
This modern generation seems to think everybody has to win. Cheat if necessary but win. I don't feel that way. Winning isn't necessary but competition is. I don't look at who beat me. I look at all the people I beat. Placing 17th in unlimited at the Nats with a Sailaire against all the m

[RCSE] Munich F3K registrations - repost/correction

2008-01-11 Thread Phil Barnes
I thopught I should repost this with a proper subject line and also make one correction: I meant to say 2009 for the first F3K world champs rather than 2008. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Munich F3K German Open had entries starting 12/1/2007 per the spreadsheet.

[RCSE] Paging Mike Lee

2008-01-11 Thread B B
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Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Phil Barnes
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Munich F3K German Open had entries starting 12/1/2007 per the spreadsheet. It was only this Monday that a note was sent by Phil Barnes telling us that there were 85 entries already and if you wanted to go, you needed to submit an app

Re: [RCSE] Contests format.

2008-01-11 Thread Chuck Anderson
Left out an important part of the last sentence. Why can't I catch errors like before hitting the send button. :( Chuck At 08:49 PM 1/10/2008, you wrote: It's been a long time since I flew it, but Triathalon seemed like a challenging event for contests. Anyone still flying that? Ron I

Re: [RCSE] Contests format.

2008-01-11 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 08:49 PM 1/10/2008, you wrote: It's been a long time since I flew it, but Triathalon seemed like a challenging event for contests. Anyone still flying that? Ron I think that Triathalon is the best contest event I have ever flown. Modern models and superstrong launch equipment make it l

RE: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread chris
Tom, Larry, All: The Munich F3K German Open had entries starting 12/1/2007 per the spreadsheet. It was only this Monday that a note was sent by Phil Barnes telling us that there were 85 entries already and if you wanted to go, you needed to submit an app ASAP. The US/world frenzie started and lu

RE: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread S Meyer
LOL. Does this mean I will have watch the same dudes getting old and still winning? DP will have to think of new naming schemes, I don't think "Old Gas Bag" will sell too well. Perhaps "Skegless" will. :-) At 11:44 AM 1/11/2008, Tom Copp wrote: Yes, I see the same thing too. The Europeans

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Joe Rodriguez
I don't care who you are, now that's funny no gray cup in the Europe ,,but true - Original Message - From: Tom Copp To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Contest Format Ye

RE: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Tom Copp
Yes, I see the same thing too. The Europeans make F3J and F3B the F1 of soaring and because they do they bring in the new guys. You will get your butt kicked when you start out and what do they do to help you? Nothing.its sink or swim. The best teacher I ever had was a good ass kicking! Getting

RE: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread S Meyer
Is it the type of Society or contest formats that are changing the competitive soaring environment? Overall USA Club membership/participation is down. From my perspective the Europeans have more vacation time and spendable income than USA residents have experienced in over 30 years. Remembe

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Joe Rodriguez
Visalia use to max out entries in one day, back when. I do not know of any other major contests TODAY in the USA that closes pilot entries in 3 days. You know I have a itch to fly Euro Glide this year.. joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread LJolly
A note in support of Tom's comments, I noticed that the Munich F3k Contest registration opened up last week. I was considering going over and was trying to organize it with some friends. The competition was full in 3 days 110 confirmed 15 on a back up list. I have seen this over and over i

[RCSE] Anyone have a Ham sniffler transmitter they would part with?

2008-01-11 Thread Cal Posthuma
Either the one in a plastic tube or in the flat box 2 meter. built by don Clark or Walt Good Receiver not needed. Cal -- LSF V #38 and #109, AMA LSFV, Amateur License KA8CLD LSF 2997 V, 6718 V, 7740 IV working on V LSF Coordinator for West Michigan Soaring Society Former LSF President, Treasure

RE: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Craig Allen
Well said Tom ! Tom Copp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wow lots of stuff here. In general contests outside the USA are well attended. Contests attendance inside the USA is diminishing. Why? Outside the USA they typically fly F3J or a local version of F3J with F3B winches that the pilots supply

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread S Meyer
Will it be, "I beat Gordy" buttons for everyone!? Wow, I feel better already. :-) At 10:53 AM 1/11/2008, Jack Strother wrote: I think we should try this at the Next SOAR Contest. Heck Buttons for everybody, we all show up and win, then off for Margs !!! Hey no equipment issues either -

RE: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Tom Copp
Wow lots of stuff here. In general contests outside the USA are well attended. Contests attendance inside the USA is diminishing. Why? Outside the USA they typically fly F3J or a local version of F3J with F3B winches that the pilots supply btw. They are strict about being on the line in time; th

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Jack Strother
I think we should try this at the Next SOAR Contest. Heck Buttons for everybody, we all show up and win, then off for Margs !!! Hey no equipment issues either -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Or

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread Pat McCleave
Guys, Did I miss something in Tim's original post. I do not recall anyware in there it mentioned anything about making it where everybody gets to win. I believe somewhere along the way all you guys have go in your heads that Tim's intent was to make everybody a winner. As much as this group

Re: [RCSE] Contest Format

2008-01-11 Thread S Meyer
Since it seems we need to make it interesting for the "next generation" to participate in our hobby, perhaps we should just hand out participation ribbons to everyone? Or perhaps the Top 3rd get a Blue Ribbon, Middle 3rd get Red Ribbons, and the last 3rd or thermalling challenged get White Rib

Re: [RCSE] Re: Challenge...

2008-01-11 Thread Jeff Steifel
I disagree. It's still fun, and the mass launches are awesome. Skill will keep you in line, and if someone veers into your lane skill and some luck will allow you to avoid them. A cool event. I hope they allow FAI winches someday. But I love the towing part as much as the flying. It's great w

[RCSE] Triathlon/ Contests format.

2008-01-11 Thread ivanbrian
The very 1st contest I ever entered was triathlon in Cincy in 1980. I was flying a Drifter 2. I had never seen a winch, and Capt'n Jack had to pedal my model up for me. Hey I won, and I have loved triathlon ever since, and that plaque is the only one I have kept all these years. Brian - O

Re: [RCSE] Re: Challenge...

2008-01-11 Thread Chuck Anderson
The original English version was fun but not the FAI version unless you have two healthy linebackers for towers. And the mass launches are great for midairs. Almost like watching the start of a F1 race. Chuck Anderson At 07:51 PM 1/10/2008, you wrote: From the FAI web page. The second sen

Re: [RCSE] Contests format.

2008-01-11 Thread Jack Strother
I Will Anytime, anywhere. -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > It's been a long time since I flew it, but Triathalon seemed like a