You guys have got to see this article the Charles River site links to: http://www.avweb.com/articles/707swim/ Amazing! It reminds me of the story about the Navy ship and the lighthouse....... Nathan Woods Webmaster: www.boomerangwings.com Temple Hill Slope Squadron Orange, California http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]