Sounds Supra heavy with all the repairs :)
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From: David Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:18 PM
To: Jer & Marty Limber
Cc: RCSE Post
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra Fuse
I have a super fuse its from a spirit 100 and its been repaired so
I have a super fuse its from a spirit 100 and its been repaired so
many times it must be super by now...how much will you offer?
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Jer & Marty Limber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm in the market for a Supra fuse. I wonder if Mike Lachowski is still
>
I used .03 CF rods to pin the top and bottom skins around the bump
together. Seems to work well.
Steve Meyer
LSF IV
Racine, WI
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/ Today was the last day for top actuated flaps. Lots of glue,
fiberglass tape and words did not fix the problem so tonight they will
be co
Totally agree, thanks for sharing.
My bench marks are:
DLG Photon II
Electric Moldie: Mini Graphite
Big Laminated Foam: FVK Signal
Landmark: FVK Bandit
On Dec 1, 2007 10:58 AM, tony estep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message
> ... I presented my opinions as to what is
- Original Message
... I presented my opinions as to what is a benchmark, and specifically stated
my qualifications
=
This thread seems to be confused by the difference between the words
"benchmark" and "landmark." Way back at the beginning, the original reference
- Original Message
...Mark never built a 130" Aegea wing. The 130" Aegea was a wing
design
that he did for some CRRC club members who wanted to have a wing with
the AG
series airfoils for their Mantis sailplanes
The design threads behind the Aegea, which
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> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra or Onyx JW, these are "Me-Too Designs"
> From: Mike Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, November 29, 2007 5:41 pm
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Fred Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RCSE
>
> Can you tell me
0, 2007 1:49 PM
To: RCSE posting
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra or Onyx JW, these are "Me-Too Designs"
Thanks Phil...
I thought the Supra was a refinement of one of Drela's earlier planes. which
was the agea right?
On Nov 30, 2007 2:25 PM, Phil Barnes < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Phil...
I thought the Supra was a refinement of one of Drela's earlier planes.
which was the agea right?
On Nov 30, 2007 2:25 PM, Phil Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> >I thought the supra was a renfinement o
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From: "Jay Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I thought the supra was a renfinement of the the thermal dancer?
Oh, Jay :-(
I guess we need to forgive you since you haven't been around soaring very
much.
The Thermal Dancer came well after the Supra and was meant t
I thought the supra was a renfinement of the the thermal dancer?
On Nov 29, 2007 8:41 PM, Mike Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you tell me what model the Supra is a refinement of? Wright flyer?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Fred,
> >
> > I agree with your opinion. I read the thre
Can you tell me what model the Supra is a refinement of? Wright flyer?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fred,
I agree with your opinion. I read the threads and had to take a larger
overview to what a benchmark actually means.
In my opinion, Benchmark planes, means some plane to which other planes
ar
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Additionally, my list is not exclusive. There are many more planes that
one can say contributed as benchmarks.
Obviously we can go on.
Thanks.
Chris
> Original Message
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra or Onyx JW, these are "Me-Too Designs"
> From: &quo
well Gordy just used up 14 paragraph to say nothing he must be on the road.
Would have been out flying today but it was snowing. So I did some repair to a
couple of ducks.
Martin Doney
Baldwin, MI (the middle of nowhere)
LSF 7429 level IV
Hi Jim,
Although I have an elegant solution, no one has stepped up to try one yet;
Try and imagine a 15pin fuselage/center panel connector that is
plug-and-play (PnP) that is similar (in form-factor) to the recognized
DB-style in use now, but is less than half the size (micro-D). This
particu
I am ordering the Carbon soon. From what I understand, the Standard might
have problems with hard launches in wind, due to strength.
I spoke to Barry about the difference between the Carbon and Kevlar, and the
carbon seems like the one to get from my standpoint. Give him a call and he
will tel
I learned a long time ago that by coupling flaps to
ailerons the model would track better. (And yes, every
model) My first experience with this was with a slope
racer (Swift 800) with a short tail moment, and
undersized V-tail. I had trouble getting it to track
properly at different ballasted weigh
If I couple the flaps and ailerons I like to use them 100%. the
Roll rate is increased and to be honest I can't feel the extra
drag. This flies in the face of conventional wisdom but its what
I like... one big flaperon...
JayOn 8/21/06, Michael Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you are wo
If you are worried about keeping the wing clean, put in more dihedral
and use rudder only.
If you factor in bad designs and bad airfoils, there is definitely no
one 'right' answer.
Douglas, Brent wrote:
Now I'm really confused, even though I know the 'right' answer. I had a
very good flyer
if you can tell any difference. Mostly you can't, so don't worry about it. As my OFB Jim Thomas says, "Do that pilot sh*t Bubba."
happy trails Rob G
From: "Douglas, Brent" <>
To: "Soaring Digest" <soaring@airage.com>
Subject: RE
uglas, Brent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Soaring Digest"
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra ? Who couples flaps to ailerons?: Drela repost
> Brent,
>
> The wonderful thing about this hobby is that you don't have to
> believe anyone
Brent,
The wonderful thing about this hobby is that you don't have to
believe anyone! Give the options a personal flight test and decide
for yourself what you like the best. Aircraft design theory is a
wonderful thing but in the end what you are able to demonstrate for
yourself needs to be
Now I'm really confused, even though I know the 'right' answer. I had a
very good flyer sell me on the opposite - just ailerons for turning,
keeping the center section of the wing 'clean'.
I'm torn here - leverage really favors the outer surface, how much do
you really get from the flap help?
All,
I saved this post from Dr. Drela from October 2003; it's long but
very good. Since he originally posted it to the exchange, I'm
presuming a repost is OK.
Barry Andersen
From Dr. Drela:
Deflected ailerons deform the load distribution
away from the ideal near-elliptical shape, and hen
I run coupled flaps at 60% and rudder at 75% for flight and all uncoupled for landing.
-- KenYork County Soaring"Lighthorse" Team YCSSilence is Golden
On 8/18/06, Stan Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If so, how much? If not, when/why?ThanksStanRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane
Stan, I thought that everyone was using coupled A-F now a days. Dr. Drela has
made it pretty clear that it lowers drag and you have a lot more authority on
less total throw, whether it is a Supra or not.
Marc
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra Servo
Question - yes - it's a secret
In a message dated 8/11/06 8:27:46 PM
Pacific Daylight
In a message dated 8/11/06 8:27:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
. I have
again looked at using the 94761 for ailerons on my # 81 Supra (carbon) and the
result is the same. the 94761 is still thicker than the aileron opening by
about 2.5 mm. Guess I'll use the wi
Hey Don and Pat, my #16 Supra (standard construction) would not accept the
94761(12 mm) servos for the ailerons as they are too thick and protude below
the outside of the skin at the rear of of the servo opening. I used Volz Wing
Max (10 mm) for the ailerons. I have again looked at using the 947
In a message dated 8/10/06 5:57:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can
anyone tell me if the Airtronics 94761 Wing Servos will fit for the Ailerons
on a Supra?
I have them in mine. They fit nicely
Don
RichmondSan Diego,
CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com
Who won? and what were they flying? Wish I was there. Not able to make
tomorrow either. : (
Denny
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Just as super as everyone thought it might be.
I have the heaviest Supra in the known world today and got to fly it
in Cincy today against Pikes, Icons, Sharons, Ev
In a message dated 5/18/2006 11:32:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And how
much weight did you have to put in to
balance?Stan
Irrelevant, How does it fly?
Don
RichmondSan Diego, CA (Ozona,
TX today)[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra ? Mine weighs 61.75 oz prior to balance. How does
this compare with yours?
This proves several things. Any or all of the following could apply.
First is Gordy's rule of weights: Everyone e
This proves several things. Any or all of the following could apply.
First is Gordy's rule of weights: Everyone else's plane weighs less than
yours no matter how light yours is. If you build a Supra RTF at 40 ounces,
somebody will have a lighter one!
Then: Stan is a lousy builder.
Next: Mauri
#31 is 61 even ready to fly.
Maurice
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From: "Stan Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Soaring Digest"
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:32 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Supra ? Mine weighs 61.75 oz prior to balance. How does this
compare with yours?
And how much weight did you h
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "RCSE"
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra wiring harness/ballast tube ?
Dave,
For someone who claims to be able to fly F3B without team help, I'm sure
you should be able to solve this minor ir
Dave,
For someone who claims to be able to fly F3B without team help, I'm sure you
should be able to solve this minor irritation without outside help as well.
Regards, Dave Corven.
-- Original message --
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> hi,
> what are you guys doing w
It looks to me like the bolt anchor mounts extend down
into the pylon, but nowhere near as far as they could.
A sound fix would be to switch to longer bolts
which go all the way through the existing anchors,
and into epoxy/glass-flox threads potted in between
the pylon walls. This may require
To add to what Jim said the plate doesn't need to exactly match the
curve, wax the bolt, polish it, wax it again polish it or use pva and
splooge a mixture of epoxy and microballoons between the plate and fuse.
For the stress here a little more epoxy than a normal light splooge...
you want stre
If really needed, I think it's possible to add a plywood plate with a second
threaded nut or insert to the inside of the fuselage below the pylon for the
front wing bolt. It would need to match the inside curve of the fuselage to
minimize load distortion of the fuselage. Depending on the thicknes
With all the hoopla about the SUPRA ? save yourself all the pain and problems and buy a SHARON...
Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
l the best set up for
landing yet.
Tom
Anyone with it way back?
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From:
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:13
PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42
Gordy,
Are you trying to set
Gordy,
Are you trying to set something up so guys will bail off the waiting list for the Supra, and you will then get yours sooner? What a schemer! By the way Arend told me he thought my Supra was "Nose Heavy"., Browning almost keeled over , he has flown it too! Best Regards Larry -Original
a, KS
> From: "Jim Laurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/03/28 Tue PM 02:45:17 EST
> To:
> Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra #42
>
> Exactly. When I spoke with Barry about this, he was adamant that the pylon
> wing mount was correctly designed. The plane has been
Exactly. When I spoke with Barry about
this, he was adamant that the pylon wing mount was correctly designed. The
plane has been extensively tested, even with 2-man tows. That said, I am sorry
that Don is having this problem.
I am not giving up my place in line. ;-)
--Jim Laurel
Don, Another thought for #42. If you are willing to give up the ballast tube
then fab a wood crutch that attaches to the fuse bottom. Replace the adjustable
tow hook with a screw in hook and install t-nuts into the wood crutch at the
wing bolt locations for wing attachments. This will require co
The problem here is that any sort of repair will never have the integral
strength of the original lay-up. Essentially any adhesive employed will
only be attaching itself to already-cured laminate/matrix.
The most appropriate adhesive would be the original epoxy-type, but I
would liek to drive
Don,
Clean up the cured epoxy around the edges with some 80 grit.
Make sure you get everything shiny keyed and scuffed. Remove the wire harness.
Procure some small carbon fiber sock material 1/4" diameter should be good. Cut
a length that will fit the perimeter of the wing hold down about a
Dear #1 through #99,
I was within 20 feet of the "crash" - remember I was out there hunting
for a dropped pocketknife. The plane tapping the wires and landing in
the tilled dust that is desert farm land was softer than any
competition landings I have seen.
I would recommend that the saddle area b
From Dons pics all I can say is break out the checkbook!
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From: "Jim Laurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "rcse Yahoo"
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem
Before this whole thread gets out of control, we
I saw Don hit the wires and it did not hit the ground that hard. For those
who are wondering why Don's plane was not a smoldering pile of rubble, the power
had been knocked out earlier by a plane that became the above mentioned pile of
smoldering rubble.
I'm curious if there have been othe
In a message dated 3/27/2006 5:49:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Before this whole thread gets out of control, we should all remember that #42 was CRASHED at Phoenix. From what I heard, it went into some power lines, then crashed from around 75ft. Apparently, the rep
Before this whole thread gets out of control, we should all remember
that #42 was CRASHED at Phoenix. From what I heard, it went into
some power lines, then crashed from around 75ft. Apparently, the
repair wasn't adequate.
Just because the Supra wing mount didn't survive a crash, doesn't
In a message dated 3/27/2006 4:45:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thats a poor fix Gordy
Is there a good fix for Gordy??
Don Richmond
Mark's original Supra pod and hold-down design can be found in this PDF:
http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/supra/all%20PDFs/supra_fuse.pdf
The fore bolt goes down into a 1/2" ply bulkhead, and the aft bolt
appears to be in the pylon itself.
Though, immediately upon reading this, I though
Don,
It's hard to tell what you have to work with for repairs even though your pics
are pretty good. For adhesive I would say WELD epoxy is the stuff you want to
use here and I would install a pair of new T-nuts between two layers of .050
carbon sheet under the original saddle cap. Also a piece
om
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem
That's all holding your wings on
Guys, Zenith carbons in stock call NOW!
Tom Copp
Composite Specialties
www.f3x.com
949-645-7032
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Thats a poor fix Gordy.
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From:
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 4:35
PM
Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem, FIX
:-)
I can't believe that the only thing holding the wing bolts on is that
thin cf cap. Ver
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From:
Tom Copp
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:56
PM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra #42
problem
Thats all holding
your wings on
Guys, Zenith carbons
in stock call NOW!
Tom
Copp
That’s all holding your wings on
Guys, Zenith carbons in stock call NOW!
Tom Copp
Composite
Specialties
www.f3x.com
949-645-7032
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:51
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To: soaring@airage.com
C
I can't believe that the only thing holding the wing bolts on is that thin
cf cap. Very poor engineering. The trick now is how to do something to the
ones that haven't popped off yet. I really don't want to cut mine off, but
it is probably better than loosing a wing -- or whole plane.
My su
In a message dated 3/16/06 3:46:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How many
have given up waiting for a Supra and are now looking at a Pike
instead?Curious...Steve,
I definitely think you should go with the
Pike! My Supra is working quite well.
See you in L
Many thanks to George, and his dear wife, for putting up with us talking
soaring. We went back to the hotel after dinner and I showed him some videos
that were around the web on full size soaring. Really good time by all.
Goerge is a great host, just wished he was able to get out more and fly
You incorrectly assumed it was only coming out of one end. ;-)
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From: Marta Zavala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:11 PM
To: George Voss; Soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra flies and Marc Gellart
George, how were you able to sit
George, how were you able to sit down for dinner man? If I lost 8 liters
of fluid in less than 8 hours, I wouldnt be sitting down on anything for the
next month!
Walter
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From: "George Voss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject
In a message dated 2/17/06 6:37:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I now
have 9.5mm full thread engagement. I could supply the longer pieces for
.22cents(front) and .15 cents(rear) plus a small amount for postage to any one
who can't get their own
Thanks Dave, but
Mike, Don and all other Supra owners, I went to a metric fastener specialty
shop and bought longer 4mm flathead capscrews at 35mmL(front) and 25mm(rear),
these are 5mm longer than my supplied phillips head screws which only gave
minimal engagement as I mentioned in an earlier post.
I now have 9
ailed distance.
don
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From: Rob Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:18 AM
To: 'Donald B. Barker'; soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra Antenna Placement - bottom placement
Is your equipment PPM or PCM? Single or Dual Con
Is your equipment PPM or PCM? Single or Dual Conversion? Is the range
checking done with the transmitter antennae fully collapsed or partially?
Here's a link to a good article on range checking.
http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1079&tag=hht2004
Rob
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In a message dated 2/16/06 12:00:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am only posting this so other Supra flyers can
inspect there ships to see if they need to get a longer screw for the rear
bolt. We would hate to loose any ships to this problem.
t;
To:
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra impressions at the SWC
At 07:27 PM 2/13/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:
<>
I cleaned up this weekend. Able to order the new Jag
now ;-)
Excellent...
http://nostalgic.net/arc/bicycles/1959%20Schwinn%20Jag%201.jpg
At 07:27 PM 2/13/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:
<>
I cleaned up this weekend. Able to order the new Jag
now ;-)
Excellent... http://nostalgic.net/arc/bicycles/1959%20Schwinn%20Jag%201.jpg
;-)
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level
<>
I cleaned up this weekend. Able to order the new Jag
now ;-)
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Daryl, first congratulations for the win, and for talking the talk, and
walking the walk. I personally have great respect for that.
Second, I want to know how you did with landing for bucks? ;-)
At 05:13 PM 2/13/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:
Thanks to all at the SWC... I had a blast. Congrat
Thanks for the pictures Don!
At 11:36 PM 2/6/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In response to numerous questions, I have posted a few
pictures of #42 on my web site
www.hilaunch.com under
photos.
Don Richmond
San Diego, CA
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www.hilaunch.com
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member
I hope you and the Insanity kick some serious tail Daryl. Dont want to have
to sell mine and become another mass market flyer again. Good luck man!
Walter
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From: "Daryl Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Supra
So you must have reserved #69 for yourself ?!?
(hmm, you all get your mind out of the gutters) ;-)
At 06:27 PM 2/6/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:
Hi Guys,
I spoke to Barry the other day... he said something
about having shipped over 60 Supras so far... so if 67
have been shipped... I'm assuming
In a message dated 2/6/06 3:28:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is the CG different in the carbon model?
Maybe
Where did it end up. I'm at 92.5 mm 64 mm seems really
forward.
Good call. The real number is 92 at the start
and now 93 after removing som
Then I'd better get the lead out.
Doc Drella... what do you think?
T
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom Broeski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!!
I&
I'm at 108 with #31.
Maurice
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From: Tom Broeski
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!!
Is the CG different in the carbon model?
Where did it e
Is the CG different in the carbon model?
Where did it end up. I'm at 92.5 mm 64 mm seems really
forward.
Tom
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Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:02
There is no link Mr. Meyer, however if folks are interested I can send
pics comparing it to the accepted standard (at least one of my standards
- DB-15HD/30uM gold).
regards
S Meyer wrote:
Okay. Do you have a link or is it private?
At 12:15 PM 1/5/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those
Okay. Do you have a link or is it private?
At 12:15 PM 1/5/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those of you who would like to incorporate a high perfomance
plug-and-play
PnP - automated connection) connector system that will fit this and other
extremely tight constraints, I have a specialized
For those of you who would like to incorporate a high perfomance plug-and-play
PnP - automated connection) connector system that will fit this and other
extremely tight constraints, I have a specialized micro-D that will fit. They
are not cheap though...
Quoting Walt W5SWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
If you only go to the rear wing bolt, you won't be able to ballast much. I
guess a tungsten slug might work. . Wonder what it would cost without the
large plugs (MPX instead). Wonder if this plane would really need much
ballast. How did you install the tow hook? How far from the boom seam
It is separate, so you don't have to install it, but it would be nice to
have.
T
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From: "S Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom Broeski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Walt W5SWA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Thursda
Ouch!
Is the ballast tube an option? Is it in the kit?
I'm watching this thread since I will have this problem as well.
Steve Meyer
SOAR, LSF IV
At 07:43 AM 1/5/2006, Tom Broeski wrote:
Nice to find out after building it [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It would be nice to be told you can't use the hoopes
Nice to find out after building it [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It would be nice to be told you can't use the hoopes as instructed if you
use the ballast tube.
Let me know what you find out before I change the plugs to MPX ones. Would
have made my own harness if I had known.
Tom KG4ZSR
- Original M
Sounds smart and Lite...
my 2 cents
CJ
At 06:23 PM 1/1/2006, James V. Bacus wrote:
I don't know if I will do internal pushrods on my Supra or not, but
when I did it on the Ava I used a similar technique using
cottonballs and CA to make very light internal bulkheads to support
the pushrods.
I don't know if I will do internal pushrods on my Supra or not, but when I
did it on the Ava I used a similar technique using cottonballs and CA to
make very light internal bulkheads to support the pushrods.
At 05:14 PM 1/1/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is long but useful info:
Well Barr
.com/
So when people talk about a Supra (glider) it could mean a lot of different
things. Different fuses and lengths, different airfoils, different
wingspans, different wing construction (bagged or molded), etc...
Yeah, and other things too. Like different linkages (the Drela design uses
will stack up against the molded one
now available? I know the bagged one will be lighter but other than that
not sure about anything else.
Thanks, Walter
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From: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:46 P
At 07:35 PM 12/28/2005, you wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> The bagged Supra isn't restricted to only three wing joiner
> angles. You can bend them to any angle you desire. :-)
>
Chuck,
Actually, the Dr. Drela designed supra has straight carbon
I better not see any Lime Green paint specks in that Sport Tube!! 8-)
I'll sign it and send it in.
Peace Dude.
Steve Meyer
SOAR, LSF IV
At 10:42 PM 12/27/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
Right after I started this thread Barry Kennedy of
http://www.kennedycomposites.com/ gave me a call and we ch
Well you can get some aluminum joiners and just step on the pedal
until the desired degree of bend is met. :-)
Isn't that you Chuck that flew the Sailaire with an highly adjustable
wingrod? It really displayed it on launch. LOL
Steve Meyer
SOAR, LSF IV
At 01:07 PM 12/28/2005, Chuck Ander
At 12:47 PM 12/28/2005, you wrote:
Another interesting aspect of the molded Supra is the wing joiner
options. The pilot can choose to fly 2.5, 5.0, and 7.5 degree joiners.
I can see guys talking in a MoM flight line now... "How much weight
are you packin'? Are you using a 5 degree bend?"
On 12/28/05, Daryl Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What you'll probably notice with the bagged version
> vs. the molded one will be slightly less cruise
> performance - getting to thermals...coming home from
> way downwind, etc... My experience is the very slight
> low grade ripples that most
Hey Marty,
<>
First off - Phil's bagged wings are second to none.
Best airfoil reproduction and LE shaping for a bagged
production wing I've ever seen. Now that being said -
What you'll probably notice with the bagged version
vs. the molded one will be slightly less cruise
performance - getting
Walter,
That will depend strictly on who trims the ship and who's flying the
ship. In my view the 'molded vs. bagged' discussion is strictly
academic. The differences between the two methods will be so slight
that only the top .01% of the world's RC pilots might be able to
discern a differ
Right after I started this thread Barry Kennedy of
http://www.kennedycomposites.com/ gave me a call and we chatted about the
Supra for about an hour. Impressive background on the model.
How's that for customer service, I ask a question on RCSE and get a call
directly from the owner.
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