Re: Old and used computers

I think I would stick with unexpanded plastic commodity, probably Group A. By the time we got to 3 1/2 drive computers gained a lot of plastics. Jack Cahit Kilavuz Tel: +65 6423 0552 Mob: +65 9277 5741 Fax: +65 6423 0798 Sent via BlackBerry - Original Message - From: George Medin

Old and used computers

Any opinions on the commodity classification of the old computers that used to have the 3-1/4 floppy drives? not wrapped or boxed just old computers and monitors on wooden pallets. Thanks, Sent from my iPhone ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinkle

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

This one is WAY before the Star dry pendents you're talking about in the Tyco VRP. An insurance company was handling the claim, and replacement wasn't free. And I could be wrong about the mfr, but this gives me an excuse to buy Smryl a beer in Oct. I believe mid-late 80's. -Original Message---

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

Thom, that's EXACTLY how I'd do it. glc -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:29 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Chewable topic..

RE: CALL TO ACTION - Mobilize to Defend IRC Sprinkler Requirements

After reading the proposed changes to the IRC this is my take on the proposals; RB-25, RB-31, RB-84, RB-87 AND RB-88 ARE POSSITIVE CHANGES RB-53, RB-54, RB-56,AND RB-57 ARE THE ONES THAT SET US BACK. Please take the time to read them for yourself, as I may have missed one or some. These are in

Re: Chewable topic.....Omegas

If you go to the CPSC website, and search star dry heads you will see that they are recalled. The terms voluntary recall and mandatory recall are different only in the following manner: In a voluntary recall, the manufacturer willingly recalls the sprinkler such as the case with Tyco. In a m

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

G: I would be the contractor you replaced for the stores your doing. I may not have done it in the same way he did, I'd notify the owner, and make him aware of his responsibility to notify the AHJ and I'd do it in writing. Then after a week or ten days I'd copy the AHJ. This gave the owner time to

RE: CALL TO ACTION - Mobilize to Defend IRC SprinklerRequirements-NEWJERSEY !!!

Don't take this wrong but you folks in NJ have never sprinklered a house before? That's what I take from the "... new technical design option, takes time" It's sprinklers not landing on the moon! "...will enable design professionals, contractors, builders, and code enforcement officials to o

RE: CALL TO ACTION - Mobilize to Defend IRC Sprinkler Requirements

Builders, firefighters differ on sprinkler rules Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:14 AM EDT Dena Potter, Associated Press Writer RICHMOND - Firefighters and safety advocates say they could triumph over the "last bastion of America's fire problem" - the family home - if officials require sprinklers in every new

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

Apples and oranges. I mentioned the Star dry pendent recall to a (cheap) nursing home owner years ago. He asked if he was REQUIRED to replace them. To the best of my knowledge, and I checked with the AHJ, DOH; no, you're not. He didn't. I don't believe this was a MANDATED recall under federal law,

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

Barry, Pete, I'm in the process of looking up the exact statutes however it goes without saying that a certified contractor, as is required in New Jersey, would be remiss and perhaps fall within the Duty to Act Statute if he/she knowingly and or should have known but failed to act, i,e, notify the

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

I haven't been following this thread closely. I am not sure if this has been mentioned or not. IFC 2006 reads as follows. 901.9 Recall of fire protection components. Any fire protection system component regulated by this code that is the subject of a voluntary or mandatory recall under federal la

RE: CALL TO ACTION - Mobilize to Defend IRC Sprinkler Requirements-NEWJERSEY !!!

Chris, From the proposed amendment; "While the IRC/2009 contains an effective date of January 1, 2011 for requiring the installation of sprinklers in one- and two-family dwellings, the Department is proposing an effective date of January 1, 2012. This is discussed in more detail below and in item

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

The Inspection Forms from the NFSA have a section for noting recalled components. I note them and send a certified letter, copying the Fire Marshal. There is a moral obligation to report recalled heads and what point is there in doing a main drain test in a school or nursing home if all the spr

RE: CALL TO ACTION - Mobilize to Defend IRC Sprinkler Requirements-NEWJERSEY !!!

Curious, why the push back of a year? Chris Cahill, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. 763-658-4483 763-658-4921 fax Email: chr...@sentryfiremn.com Mail: P.O. Box 69 Waverly, MN 55390 Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW Waverly, MN 55390 -Original

RE: CALL TO ACTION - Mobilize to Defend IRC Sprinkler Requirements-NEW JERSEY !!!

Terri, et. al. To that end the adoption of the 2009 IRC is underway in New Jersey. The amendment to the Uniform Construction Code adopting the 2009 IRC is currently open for public comment. The comment period closes November 7, 2009. The amendments can be viewed and or downloaded at; http://www.n

RE: Thrust block requirements

If you're smart enough to learn from history. And that's why you and I know the value of a peer group- learn from other people's mistakes, rather than repeat them! See ya in a month in SD at AFSA ! glc -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforu

RE: Thrust block requirements

Your 100% welded or ANSI flanged not MJ so your good, no further restraint required. Any thrust blocks in a swamp are just a waste of good concrete if your 100% welded. George, the egg on face at a young age can have the effect of fewer ulcers as we age. I think they call it learning the hard way.

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

Or another way to look at it is a sprinkler contractor got blackballed because an AHJ didn't do his/her job for 10 years. AHJ probably got an at-a-boy for "catching it". I know life ain't fair. Could the sprinky have brought it up differently, sure but I don't believe for a second the owner (or

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RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

The liabilities we ITM contractors can inadvertently inherit are HUGE and especially so when you look at the minimal amount of revenue we get for taking on this risk. The #25 committee has done a good job of understanding and limiting it for us, but contractors doing ITM MUST understand what you c

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

That's great John, the way NFPA 25 has been rewritten, the ITM folks are not obligated to tell (and evidently some teaching out there is actually discouraged them from telling) the owner that they have recalled Omegas in their building for fear of getting sued. Won't get many replaced even with yo

Re: Chewable topic.....Omegas

Good rule! Does it always work? Cheers Jack Cahit Kilavuz Tel: +65 6423 0552 Mob: +65 9277 5741 Fax: +65 6423 0798 Sent via BlackBerry - Original Message - From: "John Drucker" [john.druc...@verizon.net] Sent: 09/18/2009 10:32 AM AST To: Subject: FW: Chewable topic.Omegas

FW: Chewable topic.....Omegas

While we're sharing jurisdiction info, As adopted by the NJ Uniform Fire Code, N.J.A.C. 5:70-3, 901.9 & 901.6.2 901.9 Recall of fire protection components. Any fire protection system component regulated by this code that is the subject of a voluntary or mandatory recall under federal law shall be

Re: technical issue

Good also. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Fletcher, Ron wrote: > A preposition is a word you should never end a sentence with. > > Ron Fletcher > Aero Automatic Sprinkler > Phoenix, AZ 85024 > > > -Original Message- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerfo

RE: technical issue

A preposition is a word you should never end a sentence with. Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Sprinkler Phoenix, AZ 85024 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, September 1

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

Georgia requires inspection reports to go to the AHJ. We are still under 25-2002, so including a recalled sprinkler is outside the scope of 25. The AHJ may make the owner change the sprinklers, but until the state adopts the 2008 standard I'm leaving recalls off reports. Listening to the AFSA web