RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-15 Thread Martin van Dijken
Heh, Always nice to see a discussion like this, instead of having it turn into a stupid flamewar. I have to agree with James Mitchell that it is very true that not everybody has the opportunity nor the time to really LEARN j2ee programming. In that aspect the sql-tags do indeed make for a lower

Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Rick Ross
I agree with Mr. Smith that dumping a working tool because it doesn't fit the current (albeit valid) programming model. I personally would have replace (steal) the sql: tags if they were abandoned because I am happily banging away on a flat two tiered model. All of my pages that derive from the

Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread James Mitchell
> > > -Original Message- > > From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: zaterdag 12 juli 2003 1:21 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal) > > > > > > Of course... data access in a presentation view

Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread James Smith
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal) > > I agree with Henri and Tim. > > Rather than seeing dogmatic rules about "never" and > "always", I prefer to hear the reasons for doing > things

RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Michael Duffy
I > used it this way. > > > > -Tim > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Martin van Dijken > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:02 AM > > To: Tag Libraries Users List > > Subject: RE: Stored procedure (RFI propos

RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Henri Yandell
day, July 14, 2003 6:02 AM > To: Tag Libraries Users List > Subject: RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal) > > > Agreed, > > I think it a horrific thing to do data manipulation in a JSP tag in the > first place. Personally I think the whole SQL-taglib is something that neve

RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Chen, Gin
amounts of time on a small project that I worked on just because of the fact that I used it this way. -Tim -Original Message- From: Martin van Dijken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:02 AM To: Tag Libraries Users List Subject: RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal

RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Martin van Dijken
> Sent: zaterdag 12 juli 2003 1:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal) > > > Of course... data access in a presentation view is bad practice, much > better to unit test a bean (with DAO, such as iBatis.com) in > an MVC way. > Then you

Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-11 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Of course... data access in a presentation view is bad practice, much better to unit test a bean (with DAO, such as iBatis.com) in an MVC way. Then you can reuse you bean for Soap, etc., not just JSP and keep your JSP code clean. Michael Duffy wrote: Do you mean you want to batch commands, the

Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-02 Thread Michael Duffy
Do you mean you want to batch commands, the way the java.sql.Statement.addBatch allows you to? That would be useful to lots of people, I'll bet. I think that would require tag changes, too. I can see a tag that could have multiple children. Do they do such a thing in Jakarta's DBTags tagli

Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-02 Thread James Smith
I was actually dealing with a similar problem yesterday; I wanted to write a tag that called not a stored procedure, but several SQL statements in a row, using a dataSource, just like I would use for tags. After looking through the source code, I noticed that the abstract classes org.apache.tagli