Re: [talk-au] Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-30 Thread Jack Burton
a well-recognised definition of "free and open license" (with respect to data) existing somewhere else (like the FSD & OSD do in the software domain). Can anyone point me to such a definition? Regards, Jack Burton ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-09 Thread Jack Burton
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 13:39 +, John Smith wrote: > This case is an exception since there is a place=* node for Perth which > is marked as a capital city, does anyone know 2 towns or villiages or > ... with the same names in different states? or even same state I > guess... Same state cases:

Re: [talk-au] Trivia - Husband and Wife Team

2009-08-04 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 23:37 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote: > Apart from Victoria and Albert does anyone know of an example > where > > A Husband and Wife have both had roads named after them and that these > roads intersect. At the risk of seeming obvious, a more modern example: Elizabeth Way &

Re: [talk-au] Junctions (to name or not to name)

2009-06-27 Thread Jack Burton
issue seems to be a bug in the validator and/or in gosmore, rather than any deficiency in the method most mappers are using to map un-named ways (although of course, as Darrin pointed out, those roundabouts [or link roads] that _do_ have names in the real world should of c

[talk-au] [Fwd: Re: Suburb boundaries - getting close]

2009-02-17 Thread Jack Burton
Sorry - forgot to CC the below to the list: Forwarded Message From: Jack Burton To: BlueMM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries - getting close Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:04:16 +1030 On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 03:41 +, BlueMM wrote: > Assuming we go with the relati

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries - getting close

2009-02-16 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 22:09 +1100, Franc Carter wrote: > Ok, it seems my conversion script is now producing sane results so > it's time > to work out what the final output should look like. > > The first question that I think we need to answer is, how do we > represent the > data in OSM, there app

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2009-02-05 Thread Jack Burton
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:16 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > Futher to this I was looking back through this thread (thinking maybe > about having a look at the data myself) and I James said: > > It's described as "These boundaries have been based upon localities > gazetted by the Geographic Place name

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2009-02-05 Thread Jack Burton
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 17:04 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:29:39 +1030 > Jack Burton wrote: > > > >1. What way do we want to represent the data, e.g closed ways or > > > relations consisting of borders - something else ? > > > >

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2009-02-04 Thread Jack Burton
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 14:26 +1100, Franc Carter wrote: > I just had a conversation with a really helpful person at the ABS. > > She indicated that the ABS is taking a view of the data that is very > similar/compatible with (at least my understanding) the view that > OpenStreetMap is taking towards

Re: [talk-au] Adelaide out of copyright street directory

2009-01-18 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 16:23 +1100, Patrick Jordan wrote: > This is fairly definitive: > > http://www.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/infosheets_pdf/G090.pdf/view?searchterm=maps > maps remain in copyright until 70 years after the creator's death. Umm, doesn't that mean that the 1940 vintage street di

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2009-01-11 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 17:06 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > [On the single area option] > > > Personally I think that is still the best approach (the only downside > > I can see with it would be if a suburb was not defined by a closed > > area - although I'd imagine that would be quite rare). However

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2009-01-11 Thread Jack Burton
houses or businesses close enough to the estimated boundary to be authoritative is a bit more problematic - I haven't come up with a good method yet; perhaps someone else on the list can suggest one? (the Government - including Aussie Post - published data all appears to be encumbered). Regards, Jack Burton ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Something a little simpler...

2008-03-10 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 21:28 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > Trying to work out the tags to apply to the "Greenfield Wetlands" near > Salisbury. It's a wetland area but as I understand the natural=wetland > tag that's more to define the borders of the actual wetland area rather > than the border of the

Re: [talk-au] (LONG) Adelaide Highway Classification (was: Highway Classification Issues)

2008-03-10 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 19:46 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > Rest assured I won't change any existing definitions from now on until > we sort this out. Okay, me neither (excepting any _links that don't match their associated way type, as you pointed out in the other thread). > > > I propose that all

Re: [talk-au] secondary_link

2008-03-10 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 17:34 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > I didn't do it completely off the top of my head, I did think "I wonder > if secondary_link and tertiary_link will work?" so I threw in a couple > of them, waited for information freeway to update, saw secondary_link > DID work and tertiary_l

Re: [talk-au] Adelaide Highway Classification (was: Highway Classification Issues)

2008-03-09 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 11:47 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > OK, to take this a step further I'll start the ball rolling in Adelaide: > (As we get a consensus I'll write a Adelaide/South Australia Wiki page > to reflect the decisions, I'm happy to do that) To date, I've been following the guidelines o

Re: [talk-au] secondary_link

2008-03-09 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 09:28 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > Futher on this, is you are going to correct them, please check the > roads you are connecting them to. > > I'm seeing examples of valid primary & trunk links being turned into > secondaries and cases of primary cross-link's where I (have now

Re: [talk-au] secondary_link

2008-03-09 Thread Jack Burton
On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 18:55 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote: > I can tell you jack that they are 2-way roads, since I'm the one who's > put them in there. Ok, good. That's what I thought. > Let me explain the reasoning behind my use of those tags (which upon > reflection and the comment by Stuart earli

Re: [talk-au] secondary_link

2008-03-08 Thread Jack Burton
On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 18:37 +1100, Stuart Robinson wrote: > Links are by default oneway, I think that's what the other person is > getting at. Ah, I didn't realise that. I don't think most of the ways in question should be oneway, i.e. they allow both turning right from the (dual carriageway) seco

[talk-au] secondary_link

2008-03-08 Thread Jack Burton
Hello all. A few days ago, I noticed a fair number of small ways in Adelaide's suburbs tagged as highway=secondary_link. There's no reference to secondary_link in Map Features, Australian Roads Tagging, or in any proposed feature on the wiki. So I assumed this was just an error, and changed them